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Health Thin shaming
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It comes from wanting to look better obviously, and most people find the toned athletic body more attractive than the alternative. Being healthy usually goes hand in hand with it too
I like my men big. Muscle, fat, or ideally a bit of both. Nothing worse than exposed ribs 
But if someone is thin that's cool as long as they aren't a campaigner about it and don't get prissy when I don't want to sleep with them because they look like a child.
But if someone is thin that's cool as long as they aren't a campaigner about it and don't get prissy when I don't want to sleep with them because they look like a child.
Also, I'm fat. I'm also very successful in getting men I want to sleep with into bed, but there are guys who just aren't interested, and that's fine.
For a long time, I was ashamed of my size. I worked hard for three years to get down to a BMI that was still overweight. I did the low carbs thing, I did the zero cholesterol thing, I did the big set meals thing, I did the small servings thing, and I exercised endlessly, and I was still fat. Less so than I am now, but I was basically miserable and self-conscious, and it had a hugely negative impact on my life in a way that my actual size never did before or has since I realised that this attitude:
...was the problem, not my moobs or my thighs.
It's not a thyroid issue, it might be somewhat genetic, but basically my body is just extremely good at creating fat and very bad at using it up, and trying to be something other than who I am is what I think was the truly shameful thing.
I get that this is true of people who are stick figures too in some cases - no matter what they do, they're always going to be a bag of bones. That's OK for them, but I don't want to get with them. If people don't like me for my size, that's fine, there are plenty who appreciate what I have on offer. The only ones who do hurt are the ones who try to make me feel ashamed, and it's bullshit. People are welcome to say they'd never sleep with me cos of my size, and even that they find it disgusting, I guess. But they don't have the right to say I should be ashamed of myself.
For a long time, I was ashamed of my size. I worked hard for three years to get down to a BMI that was still overweight. I did the low carbs thing, I did the zero cholesterol thing, I did the big set meals thing, I did the small servings thing, and I exercised endlessly, and I was still fat. Less so than I am now, but I was basically miserable and self-conscious, and it had a hugely negative impact on my life in a way that my actual size never did before or has since I realised that this attitude:
...was the problem, not my moobs or my thighs.
It's not a thyroid issue, it might be somewhat genetic, but basically my body is just extremely good at creating fat and very bad at using it up, and trying to be something other than who I am is what I think was the truly shameful thing.
I get that this is true of people who are stick figures too in some cases - no matter what they do, they're always going to be a bag of bones. That's OK for them, but I don't want to get with them. If people don't like me for my size, that's fine, there are plenty who appreciate what I have on offer. The only ones who do hurt are the ones who try to make me feel ashamed, and it's bullshit. People are welcome to say they'd never sleep with me cos of my size, and even that they find it disgusting, I guess. But they don't have the right to say I should be ashamed of myself.
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I liked where this thread started as i think calling people out for being "too thin" is just as bad as having a go at soneones appearance for being "too fat" and it happens far too regularly. BUT then it took a disgusting turn with people going completely in the opposite direction, thinking its ok to shame someone for being overweight. That's just ****ing twisted
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Fat women have a product that, aside from some fetishists, is far less in demand than "skinny" [read: fit] women. They're trying their best to sell it - can't blame them, but it is lolworthy.
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I always liked skinny blonde girls. It was just what I dug, and I still like girls in that mould, but in the last 18 months or so that type's changed to... dark hair and 'average' build. The women of the Moonee Ponds corridor have irreversibly changed me.
As for being skinny yourself. Whatever. Being like Zyzz makes you look a twat, there's a difference between muscle tone and that, and that healthy muscle tone is obviously most desirable, but there's no shortage of birds who won't care, or might actually really dig, blokes who are pretty rakey. The interesting this is most dudes at 18-24 seem to be in that rakey category, but most girls in the same age group are definitely at least a few kilos over 'thin.'
To be honest I'd like to tell my girlfriend to lost four or five kilos but that'd be an absolute suicide mission.
As for being skinny yourself. Whatever. Being like Zyzz makes you look a twat, there's a difference between muscle tone and that, and that healthy muscle tone is obviously most desirable, but there's no shortage of birds who won't care, or might actually really dig, blokes who are pretty rakey. The interesting this is most dudes at 18-24 seem to be in that rakey category, but most girls in the same age group are definitely at least a few kilos over 'thin.'
To be honest I'd like to tell my girlfriend to lost four or five kilos but that'd be an absolute suicide mission.
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I really do not get it at all. It's insane. There's nothing wrong with not having that tall thin shape, some girls aren't fat but are built shorter and wider, and that's cool, whatever, sometimes you can be pretty hot with that shape. But the idea of advertising actual obesity is insane. It's not healthy! Isn't it better for yourself, in terms of y'know, not just pulling blokes but also living longer and living better, to just lose weight? I do not get the support for obesity at all. It's a societal cancer.
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To be fair I think everyone should be ashamed of themselves. I most certainly am. I tried to find an example of what I was talking about but then I couldn't be bothered, but I saw an article the other week on Huffington Post that glorified genuinely obese women in bikinis. People who are dangerously overweight, like Beth Ditto, should not be celebrated as role models because they're proud of their size. I'm not condemning the people carrying around a spare tire, but those who are genuinely obese and proud of it.
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I'm one of those who is "working" on becoming healthier, I'm obviously not taking it very seriously but I have good intentions to. I play sport again and will increase that which will help.
Obesity is not a positive image to portray in the media but I think it's more about promoting the acceptance of others. We all just want to be, there is absolutely no reason or positive result that will be achieved by fat or skinny shaming.
I may have always been fatter but I've also usually been more intelligent, humourous and genuine than the people I'm so often compared to as the "ideal woman". When I take my last breath I'd rather have people remembering me for those qualities than the thigh gap and bikini bridge I unfortunately never quite mastered.
In the meantime I'm not crying in the corner waiting for someone to pick me to dance, as it turns out not all fat people look or dress like Beth Ditto and hence can be attractive to others. Shock ****ing horror, I know.
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Yes, but I know you're not that big. You know I'm a big fan of hyperbole, I'm not expecting obese people, which I don't think you are, to hide in their homes until they reach an acceptable weight. However, I think it's disgraceful that some sections of the media hold up dangerously overweight people as brave or as role models.
I also find, partially on behalf of Mrs Dubya, the real women have curves thing offensive. It's just another way to make women feel bad about their bodies, but in some ways worse because it targets women who are quite likely to be healthier. Also, being completely honest, I find thin women far more attractive than curvy ones, I'd take Kate Moss over Kim Kartrashian any day of the week, and I feel like I need to defend that preference.
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Do people really care about your preference? I think you just want to have a dog in this fight to justify your fat rants.
You are as entitled to having a preference for fit, lean women as Hu is for rugged men who drive Utes and have questionable tats, just as I am entitled to not have a physical type.
Why should anyone give a **** about meeting standards of what is acceptable or attractive in them or those they wish to be with?
I genuinely think people who feel the need to shame others for who they are or who they chose to be with do so from a place of insecurity and probably a dislike of themselves on some level. It's not necessary, let it go.
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Of course I have a dog in this fight. Thin shaming is a thing, that's why I started this thread. Beyond that, I've worked hard in the gym to get nice broad shoulders and a decent rig again, and now the ****ing dadbod is popular. Get ****ed society!
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Why do you want to be popular so badly? Your wife is obviously pleased with what you have going on, is that not enough?
Instead of focusing so much on what's socially acceptable, people need to learn to be comfortable with themselves and not GAF about what other people think.
One of my girlfriends accused me of being anti feminist because I'm attracted to the dad bod. You have got to be ****ing kidding me.
Luckily for me, not all men are exclusively into Kate Moss types, and my fella enjoys my jiggle. He likes it, I like it...that's all I need.
One of my girlfriends accused me of being anti feminist because I'm attracted to the dad bod. You have got to be ****ing kidding me.
Luckily for me, not all men are exclusively into Kate Moss types, and my fella enjoys my jiggle. He likes it, I like it...that's all I need.
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You are so contradictory Dub. On one hand you feel you have to defend your right to pick Kate Moss over Kim Kardashian, yet you don't give others the same courtesy as you want everyone to prefer what you are 
Just accept that we are all different, you are fitter than me but not prettier and everyone wins
Just accept that we are all different, you are fitter than me but not prettier and everyone wins
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I feel like I'm being misrepresented. This isn't about what I find attractive.You are so contradictory Dub. On one hand you feel you have to defend your right to pick Kate Moss over Kim Kardashian, yet you don't give others the same courtesy as you want everyone to prefer what you are
Just accept that we are all different, you are fitter than me but not prettier and everyone wins
Amanda Bingson, big but incredibly fit and strong. Do I find her attractive? No, but I do think she is a good role model. She's someone happy with her not traditionally attractive body shape. She's happy being strong and healthy, which should be admired.
Tess Holiday is unhealthily overweight. She should not be held up as a role model for those with body image issues.
That, is half of what I'm saying. The other half is about the jealous backlash against thin people.
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Everyone can see the difference health wise, I don't think anyone is saying Tess Holiday should be what we look up to in regards to her body shape.I feel like I'm being misrepresented. This isn't about what I find attractive.
Amanda Bingson, big but incredibly fit and strong. Do I find her attractive? No, but I do think she is a good role model. She's someone happy with her not traditionally attractive body shape. She's happy being strong and healthy, which should be admired.
Tess Holiday is unhealthily overweight. She should not be held up as a role model for those with body image issues.
That, is half of what I'm saying. The other half is about the jealous backlash against thin people.
What I think you don't get is that young girls don't admire her for her size, but for her attitude towards those who put her down on this basis. She is comfortable being herself and whether that be incredibly unhealthy and unattractive to the masses, she is accepting of who she is and that is something that we should all strive to be, confident and happy with who we are as people. Strive for more, want to be better but don't write yourself off over one aspect that does not define a whole human being.
This should not be advocated as a healthy lifestyle choice and I don't think it is but teaching kids to love themselves isn't a bad thing in my book. There is enough hate being spread without doing it to yourself.
And lol at you now being jelly of the dadbods
El Dubya
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See I'm not convinced this is good. Loving yourself no matter what is what leads to overly confident arrogant flogs like me!
Not jelly, just raging. I don't want a dadbod, I think they're really unattractive. I'm angry that people think that being lazy is attractive.
I don't understand why you care though. What difference does it make to you if a woman finds a man with a bit of a paunch attractive?