Strategy Blair Hartley Project 2015 IV - Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[jokershoppe]

Maybe as part ruck part forward, lets not forget rucks will be more needed 2016, just like before suby came in, , every one had second ruck coming off bench.

 

[Capitano_Cotch]

Good on us for trying to nab Treloar, it's good we are being aggressive.
The bloke wants to go to Collingwood though.
It will get done.
All we are trying to do is make Collingwood give up more for him.
Hopefully we land Bennell.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Thanks Captain obvious

And if i had of written what you've written about my post I would be carded..

Welcome to North Korea!

 

[Nostradumbass]

Apparently on SEN - we've offered 2 first rounders AND Ben Griffiths for Treloar.

lol, sounds like bullshit to me

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Geeze I'd want Bugg back if that's the case. Do they need Griff? Even if McCarthy goes they've still got Jezza, Patton, Tomlinson and Stewart.

Yeah but none of those players mentioned can kick a point from 70m out.

 

[Wayne Arnold]

Apparently on SEN - we've offered 2 first rounders AND Ben Griffiths for Treloar.

That's interesting. I don't really rate Griffiths but I guess it suggests you're definitely still in the running.

Does this mean that you'd be happy to pay the same money that Collongwood has reportedly offered? If so, would this then mean Treloar would be on more money than Cotchin and Riewoldt?

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Recent history suggests I should back the Pies to be top 8 at round 11 2016 and bottom 8 round 23 2016.

Huh collingwood, the new essendon, the similarities are amazing,

Essendon under Hird, burst out of the blocks in 2013/2014 like road runner then crash and burn like Coyote, then Hird goes on a buying spree in 2014 to save his arse and they crash and burn from the word go in 2015 and hird is sacked.

Collingwood under buckley burst out of the blocks in 2014/2015 like road runner then crash and burn like Coyote, buckley goes on a buying spree in 2015 ? to save his arse and crashes and burns in 2016 from the word go ? and is sacked ?

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Apparently on SEN - we've offered 2 first rounders AND Ben Griffiths for Treloar.

I'm sure Griff will be enough to get the deal over the line. They are running short on key position talent.

 

[Blinger]

Just a few things here:

1) Treloar has already been coached by Buckley as a kid. So he already has a good relationship with him. As a matter of fact, Buckley has coached a decent amount of the GWS list. It's a big part of how we also landed Adams when he was also linked to Geelong.

2) Adams is also pretty good mates with Treloar

3) Dan Richardson was at ESP before getting the gig at Richmond, Buckley is managed by ESP. Who do you reckon was most likely Nathan's rep? They would also have a good relationship. Buckley may not be the greatest coach ever but he's not an idiot and list building is something I reckon he's not bad at.

4) I'm aware this "being a good side" thing is pretty new to most of you, but as a big club with a big supporter base, you'll need to get used to being linked to nearly everyone and not getting any of them. Under Malthouse, it happened to us from 2000 to 2009. Under Buckley, we've landed just about every single player we've been seriously linked to, which suggests to me we're most likely going to land Treloar, Aish and Kreuzer. Not guaranteed of course, but recent history would suggest it's the case.

Collingwood or Richmond won't have the final say, it will be GWS. As they need the highest picks possible so they can get the 2 academy players they are after without compromising other draft picks they will have. I still tend to think that Collingwood will finally bend to GWS demands & end up with Treloar, yet you don't want to show all your cards to early. I also think that Treloar will not screw over GWS as long as he gets the money he is after.

 

[fargothegreat]

That's interesting. I don't really rate Griffiths but I guess it suggests you're definitely still in the running.

Does this mean that you'd be happy to pay the same money that Collongwood has reportedly offered? If so, would this then mean Treloar would be on more money than Cotchin and Riewoldt?

If we were happy to pay the same money he would've nominated us in the first place

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Yeh? He's speculating, thought you were allowed to do that on your own board. Doesn't say anywhere there that we are going to get him and you aren't, everyone still knows you're still more than likely going to get him, I think we are allowed to say the door is still slightly open though considering trade week hasn't even started yet.

You honestly and with a straight face interpreted that as speculation?

Ok, I guess. In the end, it doesn't ultimately matter.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Surely something would be coming back for that offer.

We need depth. 3 for 1 offers are not something we should be entertaining.

 

[SumTingWong]

Apparently on SEN - we've offered 2 first rounders AND Ben Griffiths for Treloar.

That's a terrible deal for us if that's all there is to it. 3 players for one is horrendous. It's not like AT is a gun. He might be one in a couple of years but not yet.

 

[Wayne Arnold]

If we were happy to pay the same money he would've nominated us in the first place

Oh, so Treloar would take a lesser contract to get to the Tigers? I would have thought that the contract would now have to be very similar. Either way looks like the race is well under way.

 

[Nostradumbass]

For **** sake I don't mind some pies posters but can we keep this thread for discussing Richmond? Use the treloar thread on the other board.

 

[Unknown Identity]

I'm sure Griff will be enough to get the deal over the line. They are running short on key position talent.

Cameron
Patton
Stewart
Tomlinson
Finlayson

Even with McCarthy wanting out.. if they refuse to trade him then throw McCarthy in the top 3 fwds for them.

They have plenty.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Collingwood or Richmond won't have the final say, it will be GWS. As they need the highest picks possible so they can get the 2 academy players they are after without compromising other draft picks they will have. I still tend to think that Collingwood will finally bend to GWS demands & end up with Treloar, yet you don't want to show all your cards to early. I also think that Treloar will not screw over GWS as long as he gets the money he is after.

Which is basically what I said. The fact that he's nominated us means it's going to come down to what we're willing to give up to get him.

They have a points requirement to get the 2 academy kids they're after. Even if we throw in our first pick from this year and next year, that wouldn't be enough points. They'd be relying on us to get their points up for one of them for sure. They do have a need for a young ruckman, they've publically said as much, which is why Witts' name is being thrown around.

My initial guess was Pick 8, Witts and our second pick (wherever that falls). Whether that's acceptable to them, who knows.

Richmond COULD offer more in the way of picks, but as he's nominated us, we first have to see if they're willing to accept what we offer before Richmond even comes into the picture.

 

[DontArgue4]

Cameron
Patton
Stewart
Tomlinson
Finlayson

Even with McCarthy wanting out.. if they refuse to trade him then throw McCarthy in the top 3 fwds for them.

They have plenty.

WE. GET. IT

LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US DISCUSS WITHOUT YOUR INPUT

 

[Blinger]

If nothing can be agreed upon between Pies and GWS and there's only a few days left of trade period, of course it's possible.

The only problem with this is that this will probably be the main trade for the draft & it will stall other trades as other teams see how this pans out. So I would imagine it is in the best interest for all teams involved to get this done as early as possible, otherwise it may affect the chances of getting other trades done for the Tigers.

 

[JR82]

the real headline here is, he was meant to be part of the deal for Treloar, so that is game on!!!

 

[Cevap_Roll]

That's interesting. I don't really rate Griffiths but I guess it suggests you're definitely still in the running.

Does this mean that you'd be happy to pay the same money that Collongwood has reportedly offered? If so, would this then mean Treloar would be on more money than Cotchin and Riewoldt?

Our money offer won't change.
We won't change our pay structure for anyone. Apart from
Im sure if we offered just as much $$$ as Collingwood we wouldn't be having this argument as he would have nominated us.

 

[tigs2010]

Cameron
Patton
Stewart
Tomlinson
Finlayson

Even with McCarthy wanting out.. if they refuse to trade him then throw McCarthy in the top 3 fwds for them.

They have plenty.

They need a fwd that can play ruck. Doubt they want Griff though.

 

[Unknown Identity]

WE. GET. IT

LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US DISCUSS WITHOUT YOUR INPUT

Calm down mate.
I'm posting respectfully, the thread isn't labelled Richmond posters only.

My post's have been quoted by civil Richmond supporters and I've replied..

Why are you so precious about this?

 

[fargothegreat]

I'm sure we'd get something of lesser value coming back the other way, like a Bugg or a Townsend in that deal.

Even if we didn't I'd still do it, because there's no guarantee that Griffiths is gonna make it and we have the depth to cover him anyway

 

[Nostradumbass]

They need a fwd that can play ruck. Doubt they want Griff though.

If only that genius sos was still there.