It is if you think Heater is the best defender.
Which, I do.
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Which, I do.
Trades are GOLD, don't waste them..
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This is how I feel. Done up a few side without him and while it's nice to have the extra cash it just doesn't look right. Even with the inflated price you're virtually guaranteed a top 3 defender for the year. Extra $100,000 or so at the start of the year to save a trade and gain extra 10 - 25 points a week on teams without him seems like a fair deal.
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If he can maintain something like the scores from last year then you'll have made the right call.
He's not in my team
It's not really a wasted trade though as we will all be upgrading during the season. It's just that some will be bringing in Shaw while you will trade in someone else.
If he can maintain something like the scores from last year then you'll have made the right call.
He's not in my team
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How many times has Shaw started as a top 3 defender? I reckon this would be close to the first.
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Nope, he was right up there in 2013 and has started top 6 for each of the past 5 years.
Starting position for Shaw amongst all SC defenders:
2016 - 1st
2015 - 5th
2014 - 6th
2013 - 2nd
2012 - 4th
2011 - 20th
2010 - 13th
2009 - 17th
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That doesn't scream to me a bloke you want to pay 600k for. Only been top 3 defender once before but most speak of him as a 'lock for #1 defender'.
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You've got to be kidding me.
He starts out 2016 with a 10% better average than the next best defender based on a full season in 2015 and has been a premium scorer for the past 5 years.
Why is top 3 particularly relevant to you? We need 6 defenders on field last time I checked.
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Shaw + Goldy were the first 2 players I picked, both of them are so far ahead of the other players in their position that it makes them locks.
Depends what you mean by mid pricers. My defenders are made up of one 500K+, three 400-500K and 2 rookies.
Not enough confidence in the guys that are 500K+ to hold their average or remain durable enough to start with
Good point.
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It's me assuming a lot but I think based on his footy last year, which was superb, and granted hes never had another year where he's scored that well he's had numerous years where he has finished in the top tier and with the role he's been playing, the team he's in and his history I think there's an extremely high chance he finishes in the top tier again. Would be astonished if he was outside the top 3.
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Maybe back in 08' after averaging 106 the year before, but that was back in the days where there were some top scoring backs floating around.
Not many other defenders who have been as consistent as he has over the last few years that aren't either getting old or carrying an injury. Hard to pick anyone else to top him this year.
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No clue what I'm doing in the backline this year. Last time around I went in with Shaw, Simpson, Houli and Newnes, got that fairly right.
Everyone is either 33, unproven, or 50k overpriced.
Current picks are:
-Bartel, he's 32 not 34 (age still concerns me but he isn't on the deathbed just yet) and has always been an out and out gun. Could play a lockdown role on Liam Jones and still pick up 20 touches
-Simpson, don't understand everyone's obsession with picking the next break out for 50k cheaper, I'll just lock in Kade and save time/stress.
-Birchall, gut feeling that he can hit the 90-95 range. In POD territory.
-Laird/KK/Shaw/Boyd/Rance/Smith/McVeigh/Houli for the other spot, guess I'll see what the budget restraints are like.
Everyone is either 33, unproven, or 50k overpriced.
Current picks are:
-Bartel, he's 32 not 34 (age still concerns me but he isn't on the deathbed just yet) and has always been an out and out gun. Could play a lockdown role on Liam Jones and still pick up 20 touches
-Simpson, don't understand everyone's obsession with picking the next break out for 50k cheaper, I'll just lock in Kade and save time/stress.
-Birchall, gut feeling that he can hit the 90-95 range. In POD territory.
-Laird/KK/Shaw/Boyd/Rance/Smith/McVeigh/Houli for the other spot, guess I'll see what the budget restraints are like.
Masten being out for 10 weeks surely gives yeo some midfield minutes 
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Update: Most popular defenders as at 17 February 2016:
1. M.Brown (Ess) (47%)
2. Aish (23%)
3. Shaw (23%)
4. Yeo (22%)
5. Smith (21%) on the rise
6. Francis (18%)
7. Bartel (17%)
8. Weitering (17%)
9. Hartley (16%)
10. McVeigh (15%)
11. K.Kolodjashnij (15%)
12. Malceski (15%)
13. Bonner (14%)
14. Rich (13%) on the rise
15. M.Brown (WC) (12%)
16. Seedsman (12%)
17. Hibberd (NM) (11%)
18. Rance (11%)
19. K.Collins (10%)
20. Suckling (10%) on the rise
Not a lot of movement overall in defender selections.
1. M.Brown (Ess) (47%)
2. Aish (23%)
3. Shaw (23%)
4. Yeo (22%)
5. Smith (21%) on the rise
6. Francis (18%)
7. Bartel (17%)
8. Weitering (17%)
9. Hartley (16%)
10. McVeigh (15%)
11. K.Kolodjashnij (15%)
12. Malceski (15%)
13. Bonner (14%)
14. Rich (13%) on the rise
15. M.Brown (WC) (12%)
16. Seedsman (12%)
17. Hibberd (NM) (11%)
18. Rance (11%)
19. K.Collins (10%)
20. Suckling (10%) on the rise
Not a lot of movement overall in defender selections.
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Starting to doubt the Shaw selection.
Yes he is going to kill it, yes he is going to be a top defender, yes he could do what he did in the 2nd half of last season, but he's just too damn expensive. I could really do with the $$$ elsewhere, especially so because I have Goldy, Stef, Fyfe, Pendles, Gaz, and 3 high priced forwards.
If he averages 100 for the first 4 rounds, he'll drop to $550k
Hmmmm decisions decisions. Just want it to be round 1 already
Yes he is going to kill it, yes he is going to be a top defender, yes he could do what he did in the 2nd half of last season, but he's just too damn expensive. I could really do with the $$$ elsewhere, especially so because I have Goldy, Stef, Fyfe, Pendles, Gaz, and 3 high priced forwards.
If he averages 100 for the first 4 rounds, he'll drop to $550k
Hmmmm decisions decisions. Just want it to be round 1 already
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What's his price going to be by the time you can afford to bring him in though?Starting to doubt the Shaw selection.
Yes he is going to kill it, yes he is going to be a top defender, yes he could do what he did in the 2nd half of last season, but he's just too damn expensive.
If he averages 100 for the first 4 rounds, he'll drop to $550k
Hmmmm decisions decisions. Just want it to be round 1 already
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Whatever his price is, if he's doing well, he'll come in eventually. It's not that he'll do good or bad, it me deciding which super premo I can afford not to start with. Is it Fyfe, is it Goldy, is it Dusty, is it Pendles, is it Shaw, etc.
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Thanks for this.
A couple of surprises for me.
1 - Rich 13% and rising. Based on history and especially last year I don't think he is well priced. Struggled to maintain a price above 400k last year. Price this year of 436k. No thanks
2 - Simpson not in the top 20. 7 consecutive years averaging over 90. Surely 500k is a fair price
Sometimes supercoach isn't as simple as this. He averaged 80 coming off an ACL and was hindered with hip issues throughout the season - Of course he's going to have a down year. He also predominantly played off the back flank for the first time in his career which didn't suit him.
It's been said that he'll play mostly midfield this season, has looked as trim and fresh as ever, and he has a point to prove. At the ripe age of 25 entering his 8th AFL season with a full pre-season behind him, I think he's set for a career-best year.
You also mentioned his history, so let's take a look at his scoring history - 4/7 seasons he averaged 85 or more.
To sum up the remaining 3 seasons (the only 3 he didn't average at least 85 in)
2010 - His 2nd season. Averaged 78.
2014 - Played 3 games and did his ACL midway through the 2nd quarter. Averaged 81.
2015 - Year back from an ACL, hampered by hip issues, played out of position. Averaged 80.
With Brisbane on the rise, a full pre-season behind Rich, and a return to the midfield, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that Rich is being picked by many. If i'm not mistaken, he's never been eligible to be picked as anything but a midfielder, so to be able to pick him as a defender makes him a great option. Brisbane also have some very good players in their side such as Beams, Zorko, Rockliff and Hanley, which I would suggest means Rich will receive less attention than in previous years.
I'm predicting an average of around 95.
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Brisbane seem to have a 47 man midfield rotation this year. Maybe it's Leppa's revolutionary new gameplan. He's going with a rolling maul, Auskick style approach where all 18 blokes just chase the ball around. Who needs structure. Defenders and forwards are overrated anyhow right?
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