FTA-TV Game of Thrones Season 6 - non book readers *no spoilers until show airs*

[Red Black and Blue]

1. Willas has a premonition of the future and it destroys him, leaving him only able to say the word Hodor.

2. This happens regardless of Bran warging to that incident.

Hope this true as well. Obviously cuts out the bullshit time stuff and adds more to the Willis story as IIRC only Red Priests and Greenseers have had premonitions or shown others them.

 

[kane249]

Has a white walker touched anyone else?

The baby that got offered to them who they also turned into a White Walker?

 

[Jack Stevens]

This quote is already being used wrong. Should be on the other button, holding the door shut on annoying late campaigners

 

[stewie griffen]

Ep 6 preview from hbo

 

[Dan]

 

[geelong_boy]

Was either last season or season 4. Just a throwaway line like 'reports of a large wolfpack roaming the riverlands'

Cool. I just watched one of Emergency Awesome's latest youtube videos and he said the wolf pack was mentioned in the books but yet to be included in the show.

 

[Gasometer]

What happened happened has to be the course from here, Bran cannot just go back and change whatever he wants because that would be stupid and make plenty of story's/Timelines redundant.

The time-loop can be built upon and furthered but changing things we have seen cannot happen.

Can't wait to find out more.

Didnt work for Homer Simpson in that Halloween Special. ..wont work here.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Cool. I just watched one of Emergency Awesome's latest youtube videos and he said the wolf pack was mentioned in the books but yet to be included in the show.

Really enjoy his content. However I don't like the freebooting views from uploading the trailer.

 

[NSWCROW]

As i mentioned last night that Hodors name riddle was Martins idea.
I hope the Torienne romance was his too seeing how he devotes a chapter to how poorly treated Brienne had been in the past , she deserves a bit of happiness.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Cool. I just watched one of Emergency Awesome's latest youtube videos and he said the wolf pack was mentioned in the books but yet to be included in the show.

There have been a few little things likes this, where some show watchers dont remember little throwaway lines, and inversely some book readers swear certain parts of the book have been on the tv show but werent.

I hope my memory is correct.

 

[Godchin]

Its funny because just as the acting has got really good, the writers have really dropped the ball on the dialogue.

I was thinking the same thing.

Emilia Clarke is an awful actress but she really nailed that scene. Too bad the writing was horrendous.

 

[Bostonian]

Hodor scene hit me in the guts but I was more gutted about Summer committing suicide like that. Surely that wasn't necessary?

Summer's death was all about symbology.

Summer is dead, Winter (White Walkers) has finally arrived.

 

[Bostonian]

My take on Hodor and Bran is that it wasn't Bran who created Hodor. It was the Three Eyed Raven in the tree who did. What Bran sees is what The Three Eyed Raven had previously seen.

What Bran has been seeing is a transference of memories and they can share some kind of consciousness.

 

[Jay-Z]

My take on Hodor and Bran is that it wasn't Bran who created Hodor. It was the Three Eyed Raven in the tree who did. What Bran sees is what The Three Eyed Raven had previously seen.

What Bran has been seeing is a transference of memories and they can share some kind of consciousness.

Nah there has been too much evidence that he is actually present in those visions to a degree:
- Ned hearing him call out "father"
- Night's king seeing him and touching him
- Hodor

I thought it was pretty cut and dry that Hodor was caused by Bran warging into present day Hodor while being in the vision with past Hodor/Willis

 

[Gasometer]

Does the ep 6 preview ^^^^ give too much away?

I never seek them out but yesterdays episode rattled my cage.

 

[Bostonian]

Nah there has been too much evidence that he is actually present in those visions to a degree:
- Ned hearing him call out "father"
- Night's king seeing him and touching him
- Hodor

I thought it was pretty cut and dry that Hodor was caused by Bran warging into present day Hodor while being in the vision with past Hodor/Willis

Every time he's been there he's been there with the OER connected to him though. As I said, it might be a collective consciousness that allows him to interact in those memories.

When has he had a memory when not connected to the OER?

 

[Jay-Z]

Does the ep 6 preview ^^^^ give too much away?

I never seek them out but yesterdays episode rattled my cage.

Nah I don't think so

Every time he's been there he's been there with the OER connected to him though. As I said, it might be a collective consciousness that allows him to interact in those memories.

When has he had a memory when not connected to the OER?

The Night's King but you could argue that wasn't a memory but the present. But that scene clearly showed he could "connect" via the tree with the TER guiding him

 

[Bostonian]

Does the ep 6 preview ^^^^ give too much away?

I never seek them out but yesterdays episode rattled my cage.

Interesting preview, looks like they bring 100 soldiers to the Sparrow and are surrounded by thousands of peasants and it's lead by Jamie, not the Tyrells.

So where is the Tyrell army at this stage?

Excited to see who comes to Bran's rescue. Surely not Nymeria...

 

[Gasometer]

I reckon I was somewhere between the two blokes with my emotions.

The further the Episode sinks in...the more I think it was one of the best eps of the whole series.

 

[swiftdog]

But can Bran simultaneously warg into the past/have visions and warg into Hodor in the present? I didn't think he could as he seemed oblivious to the WW attack. You clearly saw someone warg into present-day Hodor but I didn't think it was Bran as there was no indication that anything had changed with Bran.

In terms of what happened I keep relating somewhat to Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (HP spoilers ahead!!). Harry originally thinks he sees James cast a patronus (when he really sees himself). His timeline was always destined to happen. When Harry uses the time-turner to go back in time he realises this and jumps out to cast the patronus to fulfill the destiny. I think this is where Bran's timetravel warging might be heading, where his warging fulfills a pre-determined destiny rather than changing the future/timeline that we've seen over the last 5.5 seasons.

Very interesting. There seems to be enough evidence to suggest that Bran is physically present in his visions to some extent (i.e. calling out to Ned and being touched by the Night King). Given that the Children created the WW I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that they have some sort of power to see Bran in the visions as opposed to non-WW that might be able to detect his presence. It might explain why Willas had the vision when he did, Bran's presence there coincided with the WW attack in the modern day.

What's most interesting to me is, where was Bran when he had his own vision without the 3ER and got marked by the Night King? Did he warg to the past again or was he simply somewhere else in the present day (although I didn't think he could be two places at once)?


Fantastic episode and certainly one of the best in the series.

 

[3rd Grade Maggy]

35 years of ****** for a 30 second head start. Nice one bran you campaigner.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Interesting preview, looks like they bring 100 soldiers to the Sparrow and are surrounded by thousands of peasants and it's lead by Jamie, not the Tyrells.

So where is the Tyrell army at this stage?

Excited to see who comes to Bran's rescue. Surely not Nymeria...

They are Tyrell soldiers, and Mace is right next to Jaime.

Going to be very interesting
Margarey looked quite well taken care of and perhaps even confident/happy about what was going to happen.

 

[Bostonian]

They are Tyrell soldiers, and Mace is right next to Jaime.

Going to be very interesting
Margarey looked quite well taken care of and perhaps even confident/happy about what was going to happen.

My Christian brothers eyes missed that. Still a pretty small force to take along to a potential massive fight.

 

[Lester Burnham]

Bran doesn't need to exist (or even survive to that moment) for Hodor to have the vision that mentally destroys him. Hodor experiences that regardless of what happens next.

Bran eventually fulfills a loop by becoming the catalyst for Hodor's madness, but he wasn't necessary for it to happen. If Bran doesn't Warg into Hodor they get mowed down in the snow, everyone dies, but they don't change the glimpse of the 'future' that Hodor saw as a child, it's just that that future never eventuates.

The vision/experience was real to Hodor, the final outcome contextualises it and gives it meaning, but that outcome was not guaranteed.

I don't buy it. This theory would need to have Willis having some amazing prescient powers of his own death when the evidence suggests he is a simple minded farm boy.

It has been shown that Bran has the power to affect the past - like when before he was born, he called out to his father, who heard him. So it would fit the story better if Bran had past-warged Willis to create Hodor. He retrospectively freaks the boy out by mind-sharing the visions of his own death and also creates the creature that will protect him over several years.

If Bran has this power to take over a person or animal's mind, and also change the past - is he is God.

 

[picko]