Jeremy Corbyn, former UK Opposition Leader

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They want Corbyn gone because they think he is unelectable........but he is unelectable because they want him gone. Easy solution, back him and see what happens.

Ever since he won the leadership he has copped s**t from the media, Blairite sniping, w***ers like Meds who actually believed he was a terrorist sympathizer (that line of attack has dried up, obviously not a lot of mileage in it).

Now they are hanging s**t on him for a campaign he was only half hearted about. How is the EU campaign and Corbyn's indifference to it, any indication on his ability to win a general election?
 
Showbags said:
They want Corbyn gone because they think he is unelectable........but he is unelectable because they want him gone. Easy solution, back him and see what happens.

Ever since he won the leadership he has copped s**t from the media, Blairite sniping, ******s like Meds who actually believed he was a terrorist sympathizer (that line of attack has dried up, obviously not a lot of mileage in it).

Now they are hanging s**t on him for a campaign he was only half hearted about. How is the EU campaign and Corbyn's indifference to it, any indication on his ability to win a general election?
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Realistically, they need to clear those *ers out and send them to the Tories (or a third political party). Practically, it will leave them unelectable for years unless the Conservatives likewise come apart at the seams (which they probably need as well, send the far right w***ers to Farage).
 

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The Speaker said:
I am amazed that this is the leading story in the British media after the referendum. The Blairite liberals who didn't want Corbyn as leader a year ago still don't want him as leader now. What a shock. I hope they quit, and that the Blairite MPs who dominate the Tories join them.
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Would this Blair party be bigger than either remnant of Tory and labour parties?
 
Showbags said:
They want Corbyn gone because they think he is unelectable........but he is unelectable because they want him gone. Easy solution, back him and see what happens.

Ever since he won the leadership he has copped s**t from the media, Blairite sniping, ******s like Meds who actually believed he was a terrorist sympathizer (that line of attack has dried up, obviously not a lot of mileage in it).

Now they are hanging s**t on him for a campaign he was only half hearted about. How is the EU campaign and Corbyn's indifference to it, any indication on his ability to win a general election?
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The bloke actively supports the Labour version of the Tea Party, which is basically white-anting any and all moderate Labour MPs by targeting them for deselection.

Not to mention that the party has a massive problem with anti-Semitic elements who he tacitly supports.

It's a completely untenable situation, saying the party should unite behind him is unrealistic. Either the party needs to split, or he needs to fuck off to Bolivia / Venezuela / some other socialist paradise.
 
Demosthenes said:
The bloke actively supports the Labour version of the Tea Party, which is basically white-anting any and all moderate Labour MPs by targeting them for deselection.

Not to mention that the party has a massive problem with anti-Semitic elements who he tacitly supports.

It's a completely untenable situation, saying the party should unite behind him is unrealistic. Either the party needs to split, or he needs to fuck off to Bolivia / Venezuela / some other socialist paradise.
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You mean right wing Blairites
 
I don't, but that's probably by the by. IMO Corbyn is a nasty little piece of work, and incompetent to boot, but that's not totally relevant.

What is relevant is that he's way too socialist to lead the Labour Party in its current incarnation. It would be bad for British politics if the party was to schism; an effective opposition is needed now more than ever.
 
CLUBMEDhurst said:
You mean right wing Blairites
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You mean Blairite liberals.

Demosthenes said:
It would be bad for British politics if the party was to schism; an effective opposition is needed now more than ever.
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No, it would be good for British politics. The Labour party can get back to being about socialism, and the Blairites can head over to the Lib Dems where they belong and put forward the case for liberalism honestly.

The Conservatives will hopefully go through a similar process in the next few years.
 

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Socialism in Britain is dead, has been for 40 years. There's no future in a Labour Party that returns to it.
 
Demosthenes said:
Socialism in Britain is dead, has been for 40 years. There's no future in a Labour Party that returns to it.
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Socialism has never been alive in Britain, but socialist principles remain vitally important (health, education, defence etc). I'm sick of socialism being a dirty word because some people abused and twisted the idea. Capitalism has produced some pretty horrible consequences over the years but no one suggests throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
 
Not suggesting anyone should throw the baby out with the bathwater, but people seem to be forgetting why Blair's Third Way arose in the first place. Welfare dependency and stagflation remain a massive problem in the UK, both of which are exacerbated by traditionally socialist policies.

Blairism may not be the solution, but going back to the same polices that got Wilson turfed out in the 70s isn't going to win them any elections either.
 
Demosthenes said:
Not suggesting anyone should throw the baby out with the bathwater, but people seem to be forgetting why Blair's Third Way arose in the first place. Welfare dependency and stagflation remain a massive problem in the UK, both of which are exacerbated by traditionally socialist policies.

Blairism may not be the solution, but going back to the same polices that got Wilson turfed out in the 70s isn't going to win them any elections either.
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Sick of the tories was the major factor
 
No way. Getting wedged by the SDP-Liberal Alliance was way more influential. The Tory vote stayed around 42% pretty much from the mid '80s to '97 - it was the approx. 10% of votes swapped between the other two parties that made the big difference.

The UK just isn't a socialist country. If Labour wants to go back to being Harold Wilson's party, they can pretty much go back to polling third behind the Liberals and Conservatives.
 
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No matter what you think of Corbyn's politics, you really have to admire his resilience and class in all this.

He has faced a level of vitriol previously unheard of in British politics. Throughout he has held himself with dignity and has refused to stoop to the level of the Tories and Blairites.

He may not be exciting (he's actually quite a boring fellow) but he is unerringly honest, something not seen in politics for a long while.

He put forward his honest position on the EU during the referendum. He wasn't a huge fan of the EU but thought it the sensible step to stay. Now he is getting attacked for being honest.

No wonder people are losing faith in politics when people like Corbyn are attacked for being honest and putting forth his honest opinion with no spin or bullshit.
 
He's not being attacked for being honest. He's being attacked because he's undermining his own party room.

Dunno what's so hard to understand about that. You can't expect a bunch of MPs to be united behind a leader who's actively working to have most of them disendorsed.
 
Demosthenes said:
He's not being attacked for being honest. He's being attacked because he's undermining his own party room.

Dunno what's so hard to understand about that. You can't expect a bunch of MPs to be united behind a leader who's actively working to have most of them disendorsed.
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But they are the ones that were and are actively trying to undermine him from the moment he won the leadership ballot last year. Do you expect him to be loyal to them despite it not being reciprocated?
 
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