Society/Culture Why I blame Islam for the fact it's raining today....

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Ideally, I want them to convert out of Islam and live productive lives like the rest of humanity instead of following the examples of a psychopathic prophet who preached hate, bigotry and intolerance.

Is that too much to ask?

All 1.6 billion?

 

[Number37]

Ideally, I want them to convert out of Islam and live productive lives like the rest of humanity instead of following the examples of a psychopathic prophet who preached hate, bigotry and intolerance.

Is that too much to ask?

So they're not living productive lives?

 

[douglyzia]

All 1.6 billion?

I said ideally. Of course, it's not going to happen. So for now, best that we do our best to limit their numbers in Australia at least and educate others about the dangers of this "religion".

 

[Procrastinator35]

If this argument wasn't so pathetic, it would be hilarious.

That's a very apt self description of your past 2 page effort.

Familiarize yourself with the term projection....Then look in the mirror for it's personification.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Ideally, I want them to convert out of Islam and live productive lives like the rest of humanity instead of following the examples of a psychopathic prophet who preached hate, bigotry and intolerance.

Is that too much to ask?

Seems simple. Based on western society, as we've become more educated we've generally become religiously apathetic.

If the Middle-Eastern/African nations are able to increase their GDPs and education etc, perhaps they would similarly move away from religion?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I said ideally. Of course, it's not going to happen. So for now, best that we do our best to limit their numbers in Australia at least and educate others about the dangers of this "religion".

Do you propose rounding existing muslims into camps?

 

[douglyzia]

So they're not living productive lives?

Well over-represented in crime and receipt welfare benefits in many countries.

The vast majority of Muslim-majority countries are completely dysfunctional.

Sorry if that is "islamophobic", but it's a fact.

 

[douglyzia]

Do you propose rounding existing muslims into camps?

No.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Do you propose rounding existing muslims into camps?

I laughed far too hard at this considering how often you bring everything back to Nazi Germany.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

No.

You speak of islamic like its a contagion. Surely history has shown where that mindset leads.

The type of opinion you espouse is not part of a legitimate national conversation.

 

[Number37]

Well over-represented in crime and receipt welfare benefits in many countries.

The vast majority of Muslim-majority countries are completely dysfunctional.

Sorry if that is "islamophobic", but it's a fact.

What if they don't want to 'convert out of Islam', what do you propose then?

 

[douglyzia]

I laughed far too hard at this considering how often you bring everything back to Nazi Germany.

Speaking of Nazis, Islam has more in common with Nazism when you take into account the intense hatred of Jews that is preached.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I laughed far too hard at this considering how often you bring everything back to Nazi Germany.

When you pinpoint the world's problems on one ethnic minority, treat them as a contagion and using government to control them, it's not exactly a hop, skip and a jump to those outcomes.

 

[fleabitten]

I choose 'men'.

I win.

Okay, now do 'Muslim men' vs any other group of men.

Can I just get a hands up to see if I'm the only one that's against Islamic violence, Christian bigotry, Zionism, US foreign policy, Chinese foreign policy, Russian foreign policy, Australian foreign policy, the United Nations, Hindu extremists, white supremacists and pretty much anyone that describes themselves as a patriot?

Hoping my team has at least enough for a kick to kick at training.

 

[douglyzia]

You speak of islamic like its a contagion. Surely history has shown where that mindset leads.

The type of opinion you espouse is not part of a legitimate national conversation.

I agree completely. In the case of Nazi Germany, history has shown where uncontrolled dissemination of hatred and bigotry will lead. Best we not let history repeat itself with Islam.

 

[Malifice]

Oh, really? Have you tallied the numbers yet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2016

Yep, have you?

Lets compare 'Muslims' with 'Americans':

We know Americans are the biggest warmongers in the world. We know that for the past 70 years they've had WMDs pointed at every part of the globe. Over 40,000 of them in fact. We know they've used them. On civilians. Twice.

What about thier general attitutes to violence. Compared directly against Muslims?

Lets start with religions alone:

According to Gallup, Muslims are less violent than other religions.

Backed up by PEW:

Now to the topic of 'Americans' vs 'Muslims':

Again Americans are more violent than Muslims:

So Pew and Gallup both clearly show

1) Muslims are not more violent than other religions. In fact they're less violent when directly polled side by side with other religions (and all other factors being equal).
2) Americans are far more violent than MENA nations (overwhelmingly comprised of Muslims).

Do you agree that both these polls clearly show 1) and 2)?

If not, why not? Provide detail.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I agree completely. In the case of Nazi Germany, history has shown where uncontrolled dissemination of hatred and bigotry will lead. Best we not let history repeat itself with Islam.

Hitler spoke for Nazism.

Who speaks for islam?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Speaking of Nazis, Islam has more in common with Nazism when you take into account the intense hatred of Jews that is preached.

Still got some catching up to do to reach your levels of hate & ignorance towards Muslims though.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Speaking of Nazis, Islam has more in common with Nazism when you take into account the intense hatred of Jews that is preached.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but a lot of the western world seems to still fear Jews, too.

 

[douglyzia]

Yep, have you?

Lets compare 'Muslims' with 'Americans':

We know Americans are the biggest warmongers in the world. We know that for the past 70 years they've had WMDs pointed at every part of the globe. Over 40,000 of them in fact. We know they've used them. On civilians. Twice.

What about thier general attitutes to violence. Compared directly against Muslims?

Lets start with religions alone:

According to Gallup, Muslims are less violent than other religions.

Backed up by PEW:

Now to the topic of 'Americans' vs 'Muslims':

Again Americans are more violent than Muslims:

So Pew and Gallup both clearly show

1) Muslims are not more violent than other religions. In fact they're less violent.
2) Americans are far more violent than MENA nations (overwhelmingly Muslim).

Do you agree that both these polls clearly show 1) and 2)?

If not, why not. Provide detail.

My original statement was that Muslims are the most bigoted and intolerant group of people in the world (you can look that up).

I am not a supporter of American colonialism, but their foreign policy would more likely be related to greed and capitalism (and stupidity) rather than bigotry and intolerance.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Hitler spoke for Nazism.

Who speaks for islam?

Malcolm XI?

 

[Malifice]

First of all, my statement was that Muslims are the most bigoted and intolerant group of people in this world.

Yet you post terrorism stats to back this up?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Malcolm XI?

Oh dear

 

[douglyzia]

Still got some catching up to do to reach your levels of hate & ignorance towards Muslims though.

I would describe it more as "concern and frustration" rather than "hate and ignorance".

 

[douglyzia]

Yet you post terrorism stats to back this up?

Acts of Muslim terrorism are rooted in hatred, bigotry and intolerance.