Bluemour Discussion Thread III

[CFC_#17]

No way we'll be giving up 5 now. Just on trade 13 from the Crows and the deal is done.

I would still consider trading pick 5 for the 5 players and pick 15. Then enter the draft with 13 and 15, instead of just pick 5

 

[JustaBattler]

Check this out

Adelaide " we need Gibbs Carlton - so hand him over "
Carlton "sounds like a plan - what are you offering"
Adelaide "well....our first rounder"
Carlton "and?"
Adelaide " a steakknife we dont want"
Carlton "and?"
Adeliade "well you like steak knives"
Carlton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Around 4 years ago Adelaide floated a Dangerfield for Gibbs swap.

So did I

 

[HalAlaric]

Heard some whispers that we have renegotiated and would accept
Gibbs -----> 13, McGovern & Dear

Mitch McGovern – 21yo Key Forward who plays taller due to his athleticism. 23 games in 2016.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118015/Mitch-MCGOVERN

Harry Dear - 20yo Key Forward who is tall and powerfully built. 0 games in 2016 (injury).
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/119356/Harry-DEAR

 

[Sam The Doc]

Heard some whispers that we have renegotiated and would accept
Gibbs -----> 13, McGovern & Dear

Mitch McGovern – 21yo Key Forward who plays taller due to his athleticism. 23 games in 2016.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118015/Mitch-MCGOVERN

Harry Dear - 20yo Key Forward who is tall and powerfully built. 0 games in 2016 (injury).
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/119356/Harry-DEAR

No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...

Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.

 

[No1Suspect]

Its simple.

Adelaide start talking and SOS stops them dead flat. Calmly says to their recruitment team, "i understand you want bryce, im not going to put a price on him directly, if he is your final piece then id like to know what a premiership is worth to you instead? Or good luck finding another midfielder, now continue with your pitch"

 

[Bic]

No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...

Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.

Dangerfield was a restricted free agent.

Gibbs is contracted for 3 more years.

Big difference.

 

[Athomas]

No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...

Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.

Cats didn't have much to give and Danger was uncontracted

Gotta compare apples with apples.

 

[tencentpiece]

Heard some whispers that we have renegotiated and would accept
Gibbs -----> 13, McGovern & Dear

Mitch McGovern – 21yo Key Forward who plays taller due to his athleticism. 23 games in 2016.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118015/Mitch-MCGOVERN

Harry Dear - 20yo Key Forward who is tall and powerfully built. 0 games in 2016 (injury).
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/119356/Harry-DEAR

No way that trade happens, even if we throw in our second rounder we are doing well.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Dangerfield was a restricted free agent.

Gibbs is contracted for 3 more years.

Big difference.

Still need to be realistic about it. 13, McGovern and Dear is just being silly......

 

[Bic]

Still need to be realistic about it. 13, McGovern and Dear is just being silly......

Yes, I agree. I just disagree with your Dangerfield statement, totally different scenarios.

This offer seems to be Carlton's starting point. They will likely meet half way.

 

[1981]

This is confusing, Is this a Gibbs specific thread?

 

[RudyBlue]

No way we'll be giving up 5 now. Just on trade 13 from the Crows and the deal is done.

What if we still want the 5 to sort out our spine and a Tuohy replacement?

 

[Dramoth]

Packet of rocksalt would be better..

Drop both on there... This could go one of two ways boys... Prepare yourselves.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

You can do that?

Got to hold their arms & legs, takes 4 blokes, apparently.....

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...

Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.

I would happily give up 24 if it meant McGovern came back the other way. He is quality and fills an area of desperate need.....certainly worth more than an unknown at 24.

 

[Dramoth]

No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...

Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.

Lose the 24 and that's about right.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Dangerfield was a restricted free agent.

Gibbs is contracted for 3 more years.

Big difference.

Dangerfield is the best player in the game.

Gibbs has never even made the AA squad.

Big difference.

 

[Faz 2000]

Yes, I agree. I just disagree with your Dangerfield statement, totally different scenarios.

People really need to stop referencing the Dangerfield deal in valuing players. Adelaide DID NOT get value for Danger, so it's invalid to use it as a "hes nott betta dan Danger!!!1111" argument. Gibbs' value probably is about what Cats paid for Danger. What Danger was worth was way the hell more than that, but no contracty, no valuey.

 

[Coops93]

We got shafted when Jacobs left.

TBF on that one we basically forced him out by not giving him any opportunities and weren't that upset when he left or the compensation we received.

In hindsight it looks like we got shafted, but given we were trading a ruckman that we wouldn't give a game ahead of Shaun Hampson I don't think there was ever much value there.

 

[Dramoth]

What if we still want the 5 to sort out our spine and a Tuohy replacement?

that would be Byrne when he gets back on the park next year. And Adam Kennedy from GWS.

 

[Rambis]

Yes, I agree. I just disagree with your Dangerfield statement, totally different scenarios.

This offer seems to be Carlton's starting point. They will likely meet half way.

Exactly. Crows say Gibbs + 24 gets 13 and Lyons hoping that the Blues say forget about the 24 you are not getting that. Crows fake disappointment and settle for Gibbs only.

We say 13 Mcgoven + Deer hoping the Crows say we can have 13 mcgovern but not deer.

Dangerfield deal does not come into it. Totally different situation.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

**** that.

Cows can pay every goddamn dime of his contract.

Damn straight,why would we trade him there to pay part of his salary when we can keep him for 3 years and pay all of it, as per his current contract.

 

[Faz 2000]

TBF on that one we basically forced him out by not giving him any opportunities and weren't that upset when he left or the compensation we received.

That (and Betts) was a self-shafting.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Dramoth]

Dangerfield is the best player in the game.

Gibbs has never even made the AA squad.

Big difference.

Like AA and Carlton platers go together with the mob they have on the panel.