Entertainment & Music Song contest part 4, host: Ulahoopski, theme: virgin redux, noms due by Thurs 10:00pm AEST

[Chaisa]

Didn't 'Louie, Louie' win recently?

Technically only podiumed.

 

[edgie]

And some in there because the live version made it famous. How is that controversial??

#anotherpoorthemeinterpretation

That's irony, right?

 

[Bet on Blue]

What's the Cure controversy? Who said they weren't post-punk? Who said they were?

 

[GreyCrow]

How long till noms close?

 

[Plugger35]

What's the Cure controversy? Who said they weren't post-punk? Who said they were?

I don't think anyone really knew exactly what post punk was other than it was mostly music from the early 80s after the punk movement.

The early Cure stuff would probably be closer to post punk than their later stuff so El Dubya was probably right not to accept Friday I'm In Love.

It's not exactly up there with some of the controversies surrounding some of the other songs in that playlist though.

 

[Marklar_33]

Lol, The Cure still controversial

 

[LiterallyNobody]

That's irony, right?

Irony? hiw?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

How long till noms close?

I'd like to echo this enquiry.

 

[Bet on Blue]

 

[Bet on Blue]

On 3 October 1992, O'Connor appeared on Saturday Night Live as a musical guest. She sang an a cappella version of Bob Marley’s "War", intended as a protest against sexual abuse in the Catholic Church—O'Connor referred to child abuse rather than racism.[36] She then presented a photo of Pope John Paul II to the camera while singing the word "evil", after which she tore the photo into pieces, said "Fight the real enemy", and threw the pieces towards the camera.[37]

Saturday Night Live had no foreknowledge of O'Connor's plan; during the dress rehearsal, she held up a photo of a refugee child. NBC Vice-President of Late Night Rick Ludwin recalled that when he saw O'Connor's action, he "literally jumped out of [his] chair." SNL writer Paula Pell recalled personnel in the control booth discussing the cameras cutting away from the singer.[38] The audience was completely silent, with no booing or applause;[39] executive producer Lorne Michaels recalled that "the air went out the studio". Michaels ordered that the applause sign not be used.[38]

A nationwide audience saw O'Connor’s live performance, which the New York Daily News's cover called a "Holy Terror".[38] NBC received more than 500 calls on Sunday[40] and 400 more on Monday, with all but seven criticising O'Connor;[39] the network received 4,400 calls in total.[41] Contrary to rumour, NBC was not fined by the Federal Communications Commission for O'Connor’s act; the FCC has no regulatory power over such behaviour.[41] NBC did not edit the performance out of the West coast tape-delayed broadcast that night,[42] but reruns of the episode use footage from the dress rehearsal.[41]

As part of SNL's apology to the audience, during his opening monologue the following week, host Joe Pesci held up the photo, explaining that he had taped it back together—to huge applause. Pesci also said that if it had been his show, "I would have gave her such a smack."[43]

In a 2002 interview with Salon, when asked if she would change anything about the SNL appearance, O'Connor replied, "Hell, no!"[44] On 24 April 2010, MSNBC aired the live version during an interview with O'Connor on The Rachel Maddow Show.

 

[Back One Out]

Fred Durst incites a riot at Woodstock '99...



"It's time to reach down deep inside and take all that negative energy and let it out of your f**kin' systems. You got girl problems? You got boy problems? You got parent problems? You got boss problems? You got job problems? You got a problem with me? You got a problem with yourself? It's time to take all that negative energy and put it the f**k out!"

Hordes of angry bros proceed to rip all the wooden boards off the mixing desk tower which they use to crowd surf. Eyewitnesses reported a crowd-surfing woman being pulled down into the crowd and gang-r*ped in the mosh pit during Limp Bizkit's set.

Good one, Fred. Nice job. Peace and love...

 

[Back One Out]

Ever since the first performance of 4’33” in 1952, the critics and audiences have been baffled, angered, and irritated by John Cage's most infamous work.

“They missed the point,” said Cage, of that first audience.

“They didn’t know how to listen.”

 

[Back One Out]

George Harrison was sued by Bright Tunes for plagiarising "He's So Fine" by The Chiffons.
Probably the most infamous lawsuit for breach of copyright in music history.

My Sweet Lord was the biggest selling single of 1971 - a number 1 smash hit around the world.
Harrison lost the case in 1976 and was forced to hand over $1.6 million (which equates to about $7 million in 2017).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Sweet_Lord

With liability established, the court then recommended an amount for the damages to be paid by Harrison and Apple to Bright Tunes, which totalled $1,599,987 – amounting to three-quarters of the royalty revenue raised in North America from "My Sweet Lord", as well as a significant proportion of that from the All Things Must Pass album.

This figure has been considered over-harsh and unrealistic by some observers, since it both underplayed the unique elements of Harrison's recording – the universal spiritual message of its lyrics, the signature guitar hook, and its production – and ignored the critical acclaim his album received in its own right.

The ruling set new legal precedents and was a personal blow for Harrison, who admitted he was too "paranoid" to write anything new for some time afterwards.

During the drawn-out damages portion of the US suit, events played into Harrison's hands when Klein's ABKCO Industries finally purchased the copyright to "He's So Fine", and with it all litigation claims, after which Klein proceeded to negotiate sale of the song to Harrison.

On 19 Feb 1981, the court decided that due to Klein's duplicity in the case, Harrison would only have to pay ABKCO $587,000 instead of the $1.6 million award and he would also receive the rights to "He's So Fine" – $587,000 being the amount Klein had paid Bright Tunes for the song in 1978.

The court ruled that the former manager's actions had been in breach of the fiduciary duty owed to Harrison, a duty that continued "even after the principal–agent relationship ended". The litigation continued through to the early 1990s, however, as the finer points of the settlement were ironed out; in his 1993 essay on Bright Tunes v. Harrisongs, Joseph Self describes it as "without question, one of the longest running legal battles ever to be litigated in [the United States]".

Matters would not ultimately be concluded until March 1998.

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Harrison's ex-manager Allen Klein is the campaigner who ripped off The Beatles and Rolling Stones. He basically swindled the Stones out of their 60's catalog and instigated the lawsuit against The Verve for Bittersweet Symphony.

 

[Bet on Blue]

Ever since the first performance of 4’33” in 1952, the critics and audiences have been baffled, angered, and irritated by John Cage's most infamous work.

“They missed the point,” said Cage, of that first audience.

“They didn’t know how to listen.”

5 votes

 

[edgie]

George Harrison was sued by Bright Tunes for plagiarising "He's So Fine" by The Chiffons.
Probably the most famous lawsuit for breach of copyright in music history

Harrison lost the case. In 1976, he was found to have "subconsciously copied" the melody and was forced to hand over three-quarters of the royalties for the worldwide no.1 smash hit and biggest selling single of 1971.

Bittersweet Symphony just tops it I reckon.

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[GreyCrow]

My mistake, when does boating close

 

[Bet on Blue]

My mistake, when does boating close

Good question. edgie ?

 

[Back One Out]

Bittersweet Symphony just tops it I reckon.

Read the blurb I posted from wiki… The same guy was behind both lawsuits. He was a crook.

Allen Klein managed the Rolling Stones and tricked them into signing over to him the publishing rights to their entire 60's catalog. The Rolling Stones's UK publishing company was called Nanker Phelge. After he became their manager, Allen Klein set up a new company named Nanker Phelge, USA which HE OWNED!! The Stones assumed it was their company and signed over the worldwide publishing rights to all their songs from the 1960's

Mick Jagger recommended him as manager to The Beatles, who were after a business savvy manager when Brian Epstein died.

While trying to settle the 'My Sweet Lord' lawsuit with Bright Tunes, Klein went behind Harrison's back and tried to purchase the rights to "He's So Fine" (which he eventually bought a couple years later)

Klein also owned the publishing rights to "The Last Time" by The Rolling Stones and it was him who sued The Verve.

 

[edgie]

I'll say botine due by 9pm Monday

 

[edgie]

Read the blurb I posted from wiki… The same guy was behind both lawsuits. He was a crook.

Allen Klein managed the Rolling Stones and tricked them into signing over to him the publishing rights to their entire 60's catalog. The Rolling Stones's UK publishing company was called Nanker Phelge. After he became their manager, Allen Klein set up a new company named Nanker Phelge, USA which HE OWNED!! The Stones assumed it was their company and signed over the worldwide publishing rights to all their songs from the 1960's

Mick Jagger recommended him as manager to The Beatles, who were after a business savvy manager when Brian Epstein died.

While trying to settle the 'My Sweet Lord' lawsuit with Bright Tunes, Klein went behind Harrison's back and purchased the rights to "He's So Fine"

Klein also owned the publishing rights to "The Last Time" by The Rolling Stones and it was him who sued The Verve.

Based on an orchestral version which had little to do with The Rolling Stones... sounds like a grade A white collar crook indeed.

 

[edgie]

I'll say botine due by 9pm Monday

botine? wtf? I don't even know what I did there.

 

[Back One Out]

How long till noms close?

I'd like to echo this enquiry.

Do you mean when does the voting close?

edgie ?

 

[Smeg Head]

I'll say botine due by 9pm Monday

That is bloody ages frankly.

 

[GreyCrow]

Do you mean when does the voting close?

edgie ?

Yes I did. Thanks

 

[royboy2]

That is bloody ages frankly.

Controversial deadline