Autopsy Freo overrun Essendon

[FreoRicci]

Apparently there's a school in Midland.

Oh. Snap. Well played

 

[Arcassius]

Interestingly, they had a player from memory playing a tight checking role on walters whenever he went for a mark, someone was always on his ring. I only remember that as it was annoying me that kicks to our players were always under pressure but we tended to sag off too much and they had people clear more often than us

 

[theGav56]

Actually no wait.. Connor Blakely > Liam Duggan. There I said it

oh that's just NASTY!!!

 

[theGav56]

I guess the stats didn't really indicate what I saw. Balic got on the score board and did a few good things and tucker didn't seem to stand out

Yeah I was surprised at the stats, but I wouldn't be dropping either of those boys. They did ok.

 

[block_100]

A quick question. What was said about the an open day on may22 and new stadium at half time on field interview.

Thanks

 

[Freomaniac]

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=9369

24yr 11 mths v 25yr 8 mths

Does Anyone know how to Copy and paste certain parts of that page? I want similar info like the Derby last week... Like this

 

[FreoRicci]

oh that's just NASTY!!!

Duggan got dropped over the weekend. In place of Hutchings. That says a lot

 

[Freomaniac]

**** that first half was dog shit. They spread a lot better than us and kept it simpler in the forward line. We tried too much weird shit. Crozier at full forward for the first 15 or so, yeah righto Ross, good joke.

Everyone worked really well in the 2nd I thought. Balic and Tucker both had enough good moments. Agree that Ibbo is cooked, make it stop already. I'm torn on Spurr though, he really is a better intercept mark than anyone else on the damn list.

I didn't watch the 1st quarter so I cant comment on that. That 1st half.... not exactly the worst 1st half we had this season, far from it. Round 5 vs North was much worse.

The 2nd half.... 12.8.80 we scored. 6.4.40 in both the 3rd and 4th quarters.

 

[Yeti]

Brad Hill's game wasn't really that good, but he does provide useful run and obviously has a good work-rate.

Not sure if we were watching the same game?

Even if you only looked at stats he had 37 touches, 16 marks, nearly 1000 metres gained. That's without considering how much spread he provided from the contest.

I get that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that opinions are as unique as a snowflake but in what alternate reality is B.Hills game "not that good"?

 

[kingswood71]

Not sure if we were watching the same game?

Even if you only looked at stats he had 37 touches, 16 marks, nearly 1000 metres gained. That's without considering how much spread he provided from the contest.

I get that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that opinions are as unique as a snowflake but in what alternate reality is B.Hills game "not that good"?

Yep
Most uncontested possessions in a game by a Freo player ever. Most kicks by a Freo player in a game ever. 16 marks, all uncontested.
I cant wait until the day he plays a "good" game

 

[freoextra]

Crozier will probably be who drops for Ballas

Interestingly, whenever we kicked to Tabs on the wing, quite a few times it went over the back where Essendon had someone sweeping forward and they'd get it moving back into the F50 again. It's nice when Tabs clunks them rather than them going over his head

Those 3 OOB on the full in a row by Essendon were gold.

And fair enough! If Crozier has not done enough by the time Ballas is available then Ballas comes in. Sheridan and Crozier have talent but getting sick off their lack of consistency.

 

[freoextra]

In his presser Ross said he was very impressed with our small defenders. Looks like Igbo stays.

Interesting, I am overseas so did not watch the game but I heard the angst in the first half of our game thread. I guess the simple question is "did they shut down the dangerous Essendon small forwards"?

If they did (Ibbo and Spurr) then you have your answer.

 

[wayToGo_]

I think more than a few will be surprised by some of this. Especially Brad Hill's ratings.

 

[Lach72]

Duggan got dropped over the weekend. In place of Hutchings. That says a lot

He was injured


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[Tommo]

I think more than a few will be surprised by some of this. Especially Brad Hill's ratings.

Well that doesn't make sense at all, hills game was way better than that, how do you get negative ratings?
And i thought Neal got better as the game went, not dropping off like this suggests.

 

[DudleyDocker]

I think more than a few will be surprised by some of this. Especially Brad Hill's ratings.

Without an explanation of what it represents that is just a meaningless picture.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I think more than a few will be surprised by some of this. Especially Brad Hill's ratings.

I did notice his kicking accuracy was only 65%. This would be why, but it missed how effective he was.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Without an explanation of what it represents that is just a meaningless picture.

AFL Player ratings.

 

[wayToGo_]

Well that doesn't make sense at all, hills game was way better than that, how do you get negative ratings?
And i thought Neal got better as the game went, not dropping off like this suggests.

Yeah I wouldn't worry about it too much. Football has way too many variables for a ratings algorithm to always be an accurate reflection. You get negative points for things like turn overs. I'm not a huge fan of the AFL Player Ratings - all I use it for is to look again at anything I didn't expect. It's only really the Brad Hill one I don't understand at all - how you can rack up almost 900 metres gained and not have a higher rating makes little sense to me.

 

[Unique Name]

I think more than a few will be surprised by some of this. Especially Brad Hill's ratings.

Lol. By Champion data ratings Brad was our 3rd worst player! The rating system obviously doesn't rate the uncontested side of the game very much. It shows that not everything done can be quantified either. No points for running harder than anyone else out there.

 

[ydraw]

Clangers and turnovers etc negatively impact ratings, as do missing shots on goal, and Hill missed 3 shots.

That said the AFL player ratings have always been a joke.

 

[wayToGo_]

Lol. By Champion data ratings Brad was our 3rd worst player! The rating system obviously doesn't rate the uncontested side of the game very much. It shows that not everything done can be quantified either. No points for running harder than anyone else out there.

I've had a closer look at his stats and I still don't get it. I am almost certain they have entered something wrong - might contact Champion Data to get them to check. He had 13 score involvements (second only to Neale with 14). There is no way he would be ranked that low. He had 159 AFL Rating points so it is clearly wrong.

 

[Unique Name]

I believe they post on here time to time. Champion_Data

Any thoughts on Brad Hill's ratings?

 

[malpaso]

I've had a closer look at his stats and I still don't get it. I am almost certain they have entered something wrong - might contact Champion Data to get them to check. He had 13 score involvements (second only to Neale with 14). There is no way he would be ranked that low. He had 159 AFL Rating points so it is clearly wrong.

He had 159 AFL FANTASY POINTS not AFL Rating points.
The AFL Player Ratings are not Champion Data per say, they are some made up hokey pokey. The Supercoach platform uses the Champion Data system, what was Brad Hill's score in Supercoach?
There was another bizarre example of some highly rated player still in the AFL Player Ratings the other week that had no business being there.

 

[wayToGo_]

I really wish Lachie Neale would work harder Geez I'd love access to these for all our players.