No question they have a number of guns there, but they dropped a few years back and then lucked in with one of the competitions best players deciding he wanted to return home, which just so happens to be Geelong.
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Geelong - are they the AFL superpower and how can they be stopped?
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More powerful and more of a destination than we were? Yes. Super power? No.
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yes, and will get GAJ for nothing too next year. Older player pick ups have generally worked (menegola, henderson, scott selwood) and lucked out with danger being homesick as well.
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Word is that they're getting Smith, Hopper and Impey as well.
8 debutants this year too. Ridiculous.
It's crazy how we get so much heat in the media from the likes of Eddie. Sydney and Hawthorn have also copped their fair share of heat as well. Yet nothing is ever said about Geelong.
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I think we have won the most games of football 90's onwards. That earns you some respect and clout. It can be fleeting though, as your carlton example shows.
There is too much equalisation policies to stay up forever and our luck will run out eventually and there will be no more abletts to take and we will finally take our turn to rebuild.
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There is too much equalisation policies to stay up forever and our luck will run out eventually and there will be no more abletts to take and we will finally take our turn to rebuild.
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Geelong chequebook? The only elite signing we have had is Dangerfield and he ain't on big money compared to what he would of got on the open market. Definitely didn't come cos of our money. We have however lost players due to money. Gary Ablett being um a pretty obvious one. Your post is a weird attempt and re-writing history.
Gaz is 34 next year and was originally ours in the first place. We missed 7 years of his career that should of been at Geelong if it wasn't for a new franchise with money to burn and you somehow try to use that against us?
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Who the hell has Carlton as their second team?
And apart from Geelong having a lot of players nicknamed Bluey over the years, there's really nothing similar about the clubs.
And apart from Geelong having a lot of players nicknamed Bluey over the years, there's really nothing similar about the clubs.
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Henderson and Tuohy - chequebook signings. Not to mention Devon Smith and Jacob Hopper who your club are looking to poach from us. They're also looking to poach Jarman Impey from the Power.
Zac Smith and Scott Selwood don't fit that criteria for mine though. Both were unwanted by their old clubs and went to Geelong for opportunity.
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We don't get any heat because we weren't gifted 40 1st round draft picks or whatever it is.
There has been plenty of heat over the years about the father-sons we acquired (even though the rules were open to everyone at the time, we just got lucky, but hey that's another story).
The heat you speak of from Eddie or whomever is completely justified. The AFL wanted a stronger presence in the NSW market that's all. GWS is just a made up club that nobody really wanted, except the money makers at the AFL. Expect plenty more heat coming your way - better get used to it when you have a plastic manufactured franchise club.
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Carlton are definitely not my second team
That and Justin Murphy..
Henderson has family down Geelong way. It's why he wanted to come. He ain't on anything abnormal pay wise for his talent either. Pretty much what he would be earning if he stayed at Carlton. Touhy you have an argument. But he came across as a b grader at best and earns less then 500,000 dollars a season. Hardly a star. Every club in the land has recruited a player of his talent from another club using money. Smith and hopper are just rumours and highly unlikely to happen. And smith again is due to the Geelong family connection.
He wanted to go back and be with his brothers and near his home town. Money was nothing to do with it.
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Did I say I was using it against you? Effectively you got salary cap relief and can pick him up for cheap as a 34 yr old whose output will still give more bang for your buck relative to (what I am guessing) would be average player wage.
Oh and you got much better pick compensation compared to when we lost our generational player too, if you really want to go down that road.
I agree with most things accept the arrogance bit. (IMO they don't have enough of it) I'm older, but let me explain the Geelong existence for you from a pre 2007 long suffering fan point of view.
Geelong was a club that actually celebrated being "runners up" in 1989! Yep, they were happy about coming 2nd! I was ropeable. They lost again in 92, 94 and 95. (still ropeable) Prior to Brian Cook arriving they were in debt up to their eyeballs despite being "successful" in the 1990's. Geelong were always a club that were just happy to be in the competition, we were the poor Melbourne cousins of Victorian Football. A bit of a pain in the arse having to travel down there, but we were never a real threat to the big clubs in Melbourne throughout the 70's and 80's like Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn, North Melbourne or Essendon. Geelong were an itch you sometimes could not scratch and that's about all. Yes, they were a vanilla club. Screw that! I want blue ribbon chocolate!!
If they have picked up some arrogance in the past 15 years then good, i'm glad they have because it was never there when i was a kid growing up following the fortunes of a mediocre footy team in the 1970's. You are a long time in the doldrums, ask Tigers, Demons or Saints fans, so when that time of dominance comes make the bloody most of it and if you strut around with your chest out then good. We're not here to be just competitors, we are here to be the best competitors. Finally the Geelong hierarchy are getting the message!
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Geelong are exactly like the old Carlton.
Everyone thought they were a dominant superpower, but Hawthorn still won more premierships than them
That is the sweetest deal in the AFL.
You know who has salary cap relief? Bottom of the road clubs who have no quality players. Salary cap relief is never acceptable compensation for anyone of worth let alone one of the top five players of all time. His bang for your buck will be for 1 year and that's assuming he doesn't get injured in that one year. A draft pick could potentially bring you reward for 10 plus years.
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Not a superpower in any way. Not financially, nor on recent flag success. So no, not even close.
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Freo no WCE yes!
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You will get GAJ for pick 100 odd though, a bit like what we got for sam mitchell.
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