Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 4

[Byrons Firen]

I'd like to hear him say he wishes he had the balls to challenge Turd at the time, that with the benefit of hindsight he thinks a captain needs to be more than just a whip cracker and... bleeding pin cushion for whatever the coach(es) are dispensing. Maintain discipline in front of the group by all means, but be a fully conscious "part of the processes" behind the scenes. Ah but some smarmy lawyer might suggest that could be accepting of some culpability.

"All it would have taken" to paraphrase their slogan of the time, was a deceptively simply worded question from Jobe about how he could inform himself of what they were being injected with at such an unusually high cadence. And if the response came back "never you mind", or "that's a trade secret", or "the Doc says it's all OK", or some such other obvious weasel wordings, let alone the complete and utter giveaway of "the same secret sauce we think the Cats and Pies were on, nudge nudge, wink wink, ask no more" well then you've got a $%&ing duty as captain, don't you?

Yeah I think you nailed it in your last sentence. I'll paraphrase old Gough and "maintain my disgust" until he actually comes clean.

There's a very large lump under the carpet on all of this and it'll stay that way BUT if players end up having children that are
mal-formed in numbers too big to ignore then Ka' boom. Personally I really hope it doesn't happen.
As for Hird I loathe him with a passion.

 

[Steve Dore]

Merv Agars passed away last night.

 

[Lockhart Road]

Merv Agars passed away last night.

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I believe Merv Agars is the tall West Adelaide player at far left of the photo of Bob Quinn being carried off on Lew Roberts' shoulders after Bob's last game, the 1947 prelim final at Adelaide Oval. Merv was a team-mate of Fos Williams that year.

The Club and its voluntary servants up here have sent condolences to Merv's grandson Sam, who is a sports journo with a desk at the South China Morning Post. Sam has written up our China / Shanghai mission in four separate articles this year so far. Sam plays in the South China AFL where he can be a bit of a star tall.

 

[tribey]

Merv Agars passed away last night.

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Honestly assumed he died in 1987 or something and the Medal was a memorial award.

Mandela Effect?

Fair innings.

 

[1954]

Merv Agars was a very good footballer, and after he retired as a player he went on to be one of the best commentators in the game.
He always came across to me as completely unbiased.

RIP Merv

 

[Byrons Firen]

Merv Agars was a very good footballer, and after he retired as a player he went on to be one of the best commentators in the game.
He always came across to me as completely unbiased.

RIP Merv

He and my late Father were friends, the old boy spoke highly of him which was good enough for me.
Went thru' school with his son Graeme. Where has the time gone?

 

[spookism]

So now if we play Essendon in the Elimination Final they're going to have far more incentive to win.

I think both teams have the same incentive to win, especially an Elimintaion Final, retiring player or not

 

[Smithy7]

He and my late Father were friends, the old boy spoke highly of him which was good enough for me.
Went thru' school with his son Graeme. Where has the time gone?

All the Agars came from Elliston on the West Coast .. I am related to some of them but not directly to Mervin. Although all the Agar's go back to George Agar born 1839

 

[PatientMental]

Hahaha. Holy shit merv agars was a real person? I thought it was just the name of a poorly managed and poorly spell checked list of weekly randomised port and crows players getting votes.

The more you know, I guess.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Merv Agars passed away last night.

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Rooch has talked a lot about Merv the last 12 months. I gathered he wasn't well. Also I gather that Merv was a very big mentor for Rooch.

 

[rogerjames]

surely this person needs to be counselled openly by the SA media?

Surely this needs to be highlighted to the vic media. They play dirty and so should we

 

[rogerjames]

Merv Agars passed away last night.

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There's something very wrong with this photo

 

[PatientMental]

There's something very wrong with this photo

Is it the fact that he's not actually wearing it, or the fact that they've positioned it in a specific way so at a glance it looks like he's wearing it and all of the sponsors are still in full view?

 

[rogerjames]

Is it the fact that he's not actually wearing it, or the fact that they've positioned it in a specific way so at a glance it looks like he's wearing it and all of the sponsors are still in full view?

No its because of the dkhead on the left

 

[tribey]

No its because of the dkhead on the left

His beard-to-jawline ratio is making me queasy

 

[PatientMental]

His beard-to-jawline ratio is making me queasy

"Peak physical condition"

 

[PepeSilvia]

 

[Steve Dore]

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Hardest bumbs = glutes of steel

 

[Andre]

I'd like to hear him say he wishes he had the balls to challenge Turd at the time, that with the benefit of hindsight he thinks a captain needs to be more than just a whip cracker and... bleeding pin cushion for whatever the coach(es) are dispensing. Maintain discipline in front of the group by all means, but be a fully conscious "part of the processes" behind the scenes. Ah but some smarmy lawyer might suggest that could be accepting of some culpability.

"All it would have taken" to paraphrase their slogan of the time, was a deceptively simply worded question from Jobe about how he could inform himself of what they were being injected with at such an unusually high cadence. And if the response came back "never you mind", or "that's a trade secret", or "the Doc says it's all OK", or some such other obvious weasel wordings, let alone the complete and utter giveaway of "the same secret sauce we think the Cats and Pies were on, nudge nudge, wink wink, ask no more" well then you've got a $%&ing duty as captain, don't you?

Yeah I think you nailed it in your last sentence. I'll paraphrase old Gough and "maintain my disgust" until he actually comes clean.

I've always been of the opinion, in a team sport with 40 odd players (not a handful like sprint team or cycling), that its unreasonable for every player to go through chasing the information on any injections etc. That the Captain (and to a lesser degree the rest of the leadership group) should be the go to's for that. And as such Jobe should have gotten AT LEAST two years suspended, the rest of the leadership group at least 1 year and the rest of the players 6 months, backdated.

 

[Smithy7]

PORT Adelaide vice-captain Ollie Wines has backed the recent suspensions for well-intentioned tackles that have injured opponents.
Port’s opponent on Sunday, Collingwood, will this week be without Brodie Grundy for his dangerous tackle on North Melbourne’s Ben Brown while the week before Brownlow Medallist Patrick Dangerfield was rubbed out for his tackle on Blue Matthew Kreuzer.
The suspensions have led to widespread debate as neither tackle appeared to be made with malicious intent and have sparked fears tackling is on the way out.
But Wines, one of Port’s most physical midfielders, said players were responsible for keeping their opponents from being knocked out when laying a tackle.
“I really understand where the tribunal is coming from,” Wines said. “Despite the tackles being accidental, I guess no one wants to see players knocked out.
More ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/po...s/news-story/bda781dbdabccf7b970e7ad0285e4c7d

 

[Andre]

Doubt that anyone is keen (nor am I), but it has been confirmed that Adelaide Oval will be hosting the crap, Hybrid sport known as International Mules on November 12 (only 3 weeks before the all-important Ashes). IMO a famous, traditional sports venue like AO should NOT be hosting a non-traditional Mickey Mouse event!!!

I don't think anything of International rules, but AO should be hosting this and everything else it can. It should be the SMA get coverage of costs on footy and cricket,with the AFL clubs and cricket getting the rest. Then all these events are the jam for them.

 

[finbarr]

Is it the fact that he's not actually wearing it, or the fact that they've positioned it in a specific way so at a glance it looks like he's wearing it and all of the sponsors are still in full view?

I'm honestly a bit surprised Ricciuto didn't request the Advertiser sub editor photoshop a Revolution Roofing logo onto his shirt.

 

[70sDinosaur]

So now if we play Essendon in the Elimination Final they're going to have far more incentive to win.

You mean like North Melbourne in the 2007 PF?

 

[Portology]

I've always been of the opinion, in a team sport with 40 odd players (not a handful like sprint team or cycling), that its unreasonable for every player to go through chasing the information on any injections etc. That the Captain (and to a lesser degree the rest of the leadership group) should be the go to's for that. And as such Jobe should have gotten AT LEAST two years suspended, the rest of the leadership group at least 1 year and the rest of the players 6 months, backdated.

I see the logic, but in the Dons' case I also see a tribunal or court might have struggled with the lack of a specific "pre-existing code of conduct" to drive those behaviors in the captain. Ethically I have no issue with a graduated penalty now, because we *expect* those behaviors now. No one can now claim naivete, but that still leaves everyone equally culpable for simplicity of sanction. You'd need the AFL Code to specifically addresses the responsibility of captains to inform themselves, on behalf of their team mates. Captains have some defined responsibilities at all clubs, and on match day via the umpires... but what do they formally owe to the game itself, except via the "disrepute" clause? No idea. And if we add "a responsibility", the AFLPA would reasonably demand a "Captain's loading" as part of the next CBA. It's all about explicitly recognizing the responsibility... so putting "some" extra guilt onto "leadership groups" is much more problematic because those roles are unofficial, arbitrary and vary between all clubs.

Anyway. I need to go get a big hit of sugar, salt and caffeine. A little bit like this kid is doing. What were his folks thinking???

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/...bras-kardinia-park/1nb1o3ijlok391d9zbopf11rql

 

[Schulzenfest]

Just randomly remembered this from a couple of years ago:



Legitimately one of my favourite football moments I've ever seen live. The crowd went up like somebody had just kicked goal of the year.