Mega Thread The new Bucks mega-thread. It's Official. 2 Year Deal for Bucks.

[TW Sherrin]

DId he actually say that? I bet you can't find the quote

No he didn't.

He said he didn't expect to be reappointed if we didnt make finals.

 

[left at home]

He thought the club could sack him if we did not make finals. As it turns out the club did not.

 

[jackcass]

Comments made on SEN regarding stepping aside if finals weren't made. It's all ok he has the grand media fluffer protecting him to the death of the club.

Yeah, not even close. Said he thought it unlikely his contract would be extended if he didn't make finals. Happy for you to cite the quote that says any different.

 

[Chameleon75]

Yeah, not even close. Said he thought it unlikely his contract would be extended if he didn't make finals. Happy for you to cite the quote that says any different.

Thought he said he'd run naked down Bourke street if we didn't make finals.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Thought he said he'd run naked down Bourke street if we didn't make finals.

RIP Lou Richards

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Thought he said he'd run naked down Bourke street if we didn't make finals.

That's gold

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[Help My Club]

I am sick and tired of the semantics on this issue -

"DId he actually say that? I bet you can't find the quote"

"He didn't say he would step aside."

You gentleman are right, he did not actually/exactly say these things.

However he did strongly indicate that he would not expect his contract to be renewed if the club did not make finals in 2017. This was clearly his expectation and therefore would it not be reasonable to surmise that the team and himself failed to meet his personal expectations? Now whilst I understand that no one is going to knock back a well paid gig, I do find it somewhat conflicting that an individual excepts an extension of his contract when he has underperformed based on his own performance expectations.

Of course the other possible scenario is that Buckley's comments towards the end of 2016 were nothing more than a throwaway line to appease the media in which he had no personal intentions of walking away from the job even if he didn't make finals in 2017 (which subsequently happened).

Take your pick.

 

[jmac70]

I am sick and tired of the semantics on this issue -

"DId he actually say that? I bet you can't find the quote"

"He didn't say he would step aside."

You gentleman are right, he did not actually/exactly say these things.

However he did strongly indicate that he would not expect his contract to be renewed if the club did not make finals in 2017. This was clearly his expectation and therefore would it not be reasonable to surmise that the team and himself failed to meet his personal expectations? Now whilst I understand that no one is going to knock back a well paid gig, I do find it somewhat conflicting that an individual excepts an extension of his contract when he has underperformed based on his own performance expectations.

Of course the other possible scenario is that Buckley's comments towards the end of 2016 were nothing more than a throwaway line to appease the media in which he had no personal intentions of walking away from the job even if he didn't make finals in 2017 (which subsequently happened).

Take your pick.

Have you considered the possibility that Bucks' thinks he can turn our fortunes around, hence the acceptance of the extension?

 

[Help My Club]

Have you considered the possibility that Bucks' thinks he can turn our fortunes around, hence the acceptance of the extension?

Yes I have indeed. I have no doubt that he thinks he can turn our fortunes around, particularly given that he is primarily presided over our misfortunes and subsequently, our current state of play. I have always said, from the very beginning, that his greatest strength (an unshakeable self belief) may prove to be his greatest weakness as a coach/man manager. Thus far, based on a 6 year body of evidence, I feel this has played out to script and will continue to do so.

 

[TTRRAAVVIISS]

He didn't say he would step aside.

No he said he didn't think he would be coach if he didn't make finals. But why would he believe that? Why would he say that?

Because he was implying that any sensible AFL club and reasonable club admin would ass hole a coach that missed finals for a 4th years.

So despite Naffans lack of words, he implied he wouldn't be coach of Collingwood if he missed 2017 finals. He did miss finals and yet, despite Naffan clearly indicating (implying) it wouldn't be in the best interests of the club for him to stay, he's reappointed for a 7th and 8th year.

Makes you wonder whether Naffans best interests are Collingwood or himself... actually, it doesn't as Naffans interests have always been about Naffan

 

[TTRRAAVVIISS]

Yes I have indeed. I have no doubt that he thinks he can turn our fortunes around, particularly given that he is primarily presided over our misfortunes and subsequently, our current state of play. I have always said, from the very beginning, that his greatest strength (an unshakeable self belief) may prove to be his greatest weakness as a coach/man manager. Thus far, based on a 6 year body of evidence, I feel this has played out to script and will continue to do so.

It's ok to call his greatest strength what it is... delusions of grandeur... I think I could be an awesome astronaut. My self belief can not be shaken. If I tried to be a astronaut I believe, dispite having no qualifications or training, I would make the greatest astronaut in NASA history. Now if after 7 years of trying to be an Astronaut and failing, any logical person would actually admit to themselves I don't think I'm cut out for this

 

[Luke321]

What has Buckley done to deserve the two extra years? How has he improved the team in 6 years? Collingwood has been in a four year decline under his coaching. I can't see how taking on an untried coach could of been any worse than Buckley again .

 

[CFC2010]

Mods, what happened to CFC2010? His input would have been a welcome addition to this thread.

Didn't I pick a good week to have a sabbatical?

Firstly I would like to thank the Demons Mod and Hawks Mod for giving me some hard earned R&R from Bigfooty.

To my φίλο BringouttheGimp now levendi I have a new nickname for you and it is the "Prophet".........because two of your 126 posts in this thread are absolutely on the money about our Club.

To my friend TTRRAAVVIISS its time to find some new material mate or a better counselor because you need to move on......your Naffan hate isn't healthy.

I get the angst against our Club over this decision but some of the venom directed at individuals is uncalled for IMO.

Reading the new Bucks thread this week it is obvious to me anyway that it isn't going to get any better around here.......it's the reason I banned myself from it this year.

Dear Vicky Park please ban me from this thread AGAIN.........it's poisonous and I don't want anything to do with it.

By the way people it sounds like Eddie is the new public enemy number one now on Bigfooty now that Bucks has signed.

Who is to say he hasn't sought out a replacement in the past and present?

 

[barrackers]

Firstly I would like to thank the Demons Mod and Hawks Mod for giving me some hard earned R&R from Bigfooty.

I thought you must have rubbed salt into Melbourne's wounds. Welcome back, was it worth the break?

 

[Help My Club]

What has Buckley done to deserve the two extra years? How has he improved the team in 6 years? Collingwood has been in a four year decline under his coaching. I can't see how taking on an untried coach could of been any worse than Buckley again .

It likely wouldn't have been any worse. But more importantly it would have been a break from the mindset that has dogged this club for as long as I can remember - appointing Collingwood people to run the CFC.

Luke, I'm sure you are aware that we are the only club now to have a past champion player as senior coach. No other club has one. This is such an outdated model/mindset and I suspect that once this circus is over, even we wouldn't dare go there again. However who knows when it comes to big Ed. Let's not forget, our last 2 premiership coaches were non Collingwood people. Bit of a no brainer really, wouldn't you think?

Played golf recently with a Carlton supporter who attends many President lunches/functions. Interestingly, he told me that at such functions nowadays, the current President of Carlton does not make reference to their past 16 premierships. It's all about the now and moving forward. Reckon that happens at Collingwood President functions/lunches? Side by side Ed! However, until the collective Collingwood supporters get this, we will not materially change. And from the largely positive responses to the recent Buckley contract extension, I suspect we as supporters are still not anywhere near this mindset shift which will result/embrace much needed change.

 

[CFC2010]

I thought you must have rubbed salt into Melbourne's wounds. Welcome back, was it worth the break?

Honestly barrackers it wasn't even band worthy IMO because I replied to an Adelaide supporter with a Dangerfield avator on the Dee's WC & Crows game day thread that called Pies supporters scumbags and low life's.

It's been fun PM'ing the Dee's mod this week anyway

As for the Hawks mod who chimed in with the sloppy seconds........I love your work

 

[PieBeast]

He thought the club could sack him if we did not make finals. As it turns out the club did not.

He thought "there's no way" to keep his job if the Club doesn't make the finals, couldn't take care of it himself and was happy to rely on Eddy finding "the way"

The character of the bloke just can not be questioned

 

[jmac70]

Yes I have indeed. I have no doubt that he thinks he can turn our fortunes around, particularly given that he is primarily presided over our misfortunes and subsequently, our current state of play. I have always said, from the very beginning, that his greatest strength (an unshakeable self belief) may prove to be his greatest weakness as a coach/man manager. Thus far, based on a 6 year body of evidence, I feel this has played out to script and will continue to do so.

It doesn't matter what you think or what I think. Buckley has two more years. Speculating about what may or may not happen is meaningless

 

[jmac70]

No he said he didn't think he would be coach if he didn't make finals. But why would he believe that? Why would he say that?

Because he was implying that any sensible AFL club and reasonable club admin would ass hole a coach that missed finals for a 4th years.

So despite Naffans lack of words, he implied he wouldn't be coach of Collingwood if he missed 2017 finals. He did miss finals and yet, despite Naffan clearly indicating (implying) it wouldn't be in the best interests of the club for him to stay, he's reappointed for a 7th and 8th year.

Makes you wonder whether Naffans best interests are Collingwood or himself... actually, it doesn't as Naffans interests have always been about Naffan

Lol

 

[Antz]

Well, I am going to try to be more positive now re Bucks appointment. It's now done, so bitching and bagging Bucks for the next 2 years is just a waste of energy. Lets hope Bucks can do a Damien Hardwick next year and you never know, we might even make the top 4

 

[Obese Arachnid]

It's ok to call his greatest strength what it is... delusions of grandeur... I think I could be an awesome astronaut. My self belief can not be shaken. If I tried to be a astronaut I believe, dispite having no qualifications or training, I would make the greatest astronaut in NASA history. Now if after 7 years of trying to be an Astronaut and failing, any logical person would actually admit to themselves I don't think I'm cut out for this

Sounds like you need a mentor, psychiatrist or a realist life coach.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

I am sick and tired of the semantics on this issue -

"DId he actually say that? I bet you can't find the quote"

"He didn't say he would step aside."

You gentleman are right, he did not actually/exactly say these things.

However he did strongly indicate that he would not expect his contract to be renewed if the club did not make finals in 2017. This was clearly his expectation and therefore would it not be reasonable to surmise that the team and himself failed to meet his personal expectations? Now whilst I understand that no one is going to knock back a well paid gig, I do find it somewhat conflicting that an individual excepts an extension of his contract when he has underperformed based on his own performance expectations.

Of course the other possible scenario is that Buckley's comments towards the end of 2016 were nothing more than a throwaway line to appease the media in which he had no personal intentions of walking away from the job even if he didn't make finals in 2017 (which subsequently happened).

Take your pick.

Why would you be sick to death of someone being proven wrong? Especially when it's a convenient interpretation of Buckley's words to support their standing on the coaching issue. Ok, it's bullshit and it's been called out as such.
Buckley followed up with an explanation of what would influence a decision on his tenure.
Your issue should be with the club for finding 'other variables', valid or not, that affected his performance as a coach.
Did the throw away line suggest that he'd walk away? No. How then is his personal intention not to walk away relevant? Of course, the media personalities appeased themselves.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

No he said he didn't think he would be coach if he didn't make finals. But why would he believe that? Why would he say that?

Because he was implying that any sensible AFL club and reasonable club admin would ass hole a coach that missed finals for a 4th years.

So despite Naffans lack of words, he implied he wouldn't be coach of Collingwood if he missed 2017 finals. He did miss finals and yet, despite Naffan clearly indicating (implying) it wouldn't be in the best interests of the club for him to stay, he's reappointed for a 7th and 8th year.

Makes you wonder whether Naffans best interests are Collingwood or himself... actually, it doesn't as Naffans interests have always been about Naffan

Did you read or even listen to the follow up to his initial comment? Actually, there's one of two answers
1) No. I was too ecstatic and I didn't want to spoil it.
2) Yes but **** that, he said what he said first and I'm going to ignore the rest.
By the way, delusions are not strengths that's why they're called delusions.

 

[westozpie]

I am sick and tired of the semantics on this issue -

"DId he actually say that? I bet you can't find the quote"

"He didn't say he would step aside."

You gentleman are right, he did not actually/exactly say these things.

However he did strongly indicate that he would not expect his contract to be renewed if the club did not make finals in 2017. This was clearly his expectation and therefore would it not be reasonable to surmise that the team and himself failed to meet his personal expectations? Now whilst I understand that no one is going to knock back a well paid gig, I do find it somewhat conflicting that an individual excepts an extension of his contract when he has underperformed based on his own performance expectations.

Of course the other possible scenario is that Buckley's comments towards the end of 2016 were nothing more than a throwaway line to appease the media in which he had no personal intentions of walking away from the job even if he didn't make finals in 2017 (which subsequently happened).

Take your pick.

Or could you please tell your anti bucks brother in arms jadami to stop lying, he does your cause no good telling LIES trying to come up with something to hang on to

 

[Carringbush2010]

Well, I am going to try to be more positive now re Bucks appointment. It's now done, so bitching and bagging Bucks for the next 2 years is just a waste of energy. Lets hope Bucks can do a Damien Hardwick next year and you never know, we might even make the top 4

This sounds like hope in desperation, all my hope is gone