Recommitted Lachie Whitfield [re-signed]

[HeHateMe]

I rate Whitfield, he would cost a bit but worth it!

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[threesixpio]

Any other small forwards at Hawthorn being considered .....???

 

[Snake_Baker]

Most clubs will accept finals hardened, premiership Hawthorn players to complement their list's which are currently in premiership windows. Adelaide, GWS etc

"finals hardened" has no tangible value.

If this is your major selling point then you're in a lot of trouble.

 

[Colonial]

I'd say both players should be valued at around the late teens pick 17-18-19.
I felt Brad Hill was a little unders.

Time will tell, if Hawthorn do make a play it will be with players as we have nothing else to offer.
Most clubs will accept finals hardened, premiership Hawthorn players to complement their list's which are currently in premiership windows. Adelaide, GWS etc

Finals hardened?

Oh you are a used car salesman.

Think you mean retirees.

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[Vindicater]

Is anyone talking Whitfield to Hawthorn other than Shane Crawford?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Is anyone talking Whitfield to Hawthorn other than Shane Crawford?

Terry Wallace ran with the old, "he barracked for Hawthorn as a kid" angle.

An angle this former Hawthorn player conveniently overlooked with Josh Kelly.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Is anyone talking Whitfield to Hawthorn other than Shane Crawford?

No

 

[KermitJagger]

No

Yes but Shane Crawford was his favourite player, huge poster of him as a kid

None of my speculation about getting Whitfield to the Hawks is at all confident. I'm just exploring angles because I would absolutely love to have the kid.

He's a wing with great height, a beautiful kick and can turn a game off his own boot. There aren't many outside players in the comp that can do that but he is and will continue to be one of them.

If he's not fussed about leaving, GWS would rightly do everything to keep him and would not be tempted by any deal.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Someone on our board with a very good track record of info says that there have been discussions with GWS about Whitfield to Hawthorn.

It's not just Crawford.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Someone on our board with a very good track record of info says that there have been discussions with GWS about Whitfield to Hawthorn.

It's not just Crawford.

Mate, you need to be realistic.

You have absolutely no way of satisfying us with a deal even if the kid wanted to head back to Melbourne.

Get that he supported Hawthorn and his old man was a Hawthorn man but there is fantasy and reality.

Pick 1/23 years old/required and contracted gun player = 2 x early 1st rounders.

 

[HeHateMe]

Pick 1/23 years old/required and contracted gun player = 2 x early 1st rounders.

that's the precedent GWS has set. pretty much why Bruest always gets brought up because other then him GWS would be better of holding tight.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Mate, you need to be realistic.

You have absolutely no way of satisfying us with a deal even if the kid wanted to head back to Melbourne.

That's an overly simplistic and naive way of looking at it.

The reality is that if Whitfield decides he wants Hawthorn, Wright then goes to work on giving GWS what they want in return, very likely requiring other trades to take place, whether that be for future picks, players or whatever else is deemed necessary to get it done.

 

[Tedeski]

That's an overly simplistic and naive way of looking at it.

The reality is that if Whitfield decides he wants Hawthorn, Wright then goes to work on giving GWS what they want in return, very likely requiring other trades to take place, whether that be for future picks, players or whatever else is deemed necessary to get it done.

Hawthorn's 2019 first round pick.

 

[Andre the Giant]

That's an overly simplistic and naive way of looking at it.

The reality is that if Whitfield decides he wants Hawthorn, Wright then goes to work on giving GWS what they want in return, very likely requiring other trades to take place, whether that be for future picks, players or whatever else is deemed necessary to get it done.

Ok so let's indulge this fantasy.

How does he get his hands on an early first rounder this year to add to next years first rounder which probably isn't going to be that early given your late season form (something we are acutely aware of).

He's contracted so we would just hold him and if he wanted to go next year we'd get him to Melbourne and net a really early pick in a potential super draft.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawthorn's 2019 first round pick.

Future picks can't be traded 2 years in advance obviously.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ok so let's indulge this fantasy.

How does he get his hands on an early first rounder this year to add to next years first rounder which probably isn't going to be that early given your late season form (something we are acutely aware of).

He's contracted so we would just hold him and if he wanted to go next year we'd get him to Melbourne and net a really early pick in a potential super draft.

There are multiple ways in which a trade could be done.

Bloody hell, Jed Anderson and a couple of late picks earned Hawthorn pick 15, but you think Wright couldn't possibly do something similar, getting a better pick by trading a better player in 2017, then handing it over with something else.

All last September we were told that JOM and Tom was a fantasy, that Hawthorn couldn't possibly trade for both. That Hawthorn had no trade currency.

There's literally a handful of ways Wright could come up with GWS requirements if Whitfield decides he wants to go home.

I get that you probably don't want it to eventuate, but pretending like it's completely impossible is the real fantasy.

 

[beta_condition]

Mate, you need to be realistic.

You have absolutely no way of satisfying us with a deal even if the kid wanted to head back to Melbourne.

Get that he supported Hawthorn and his old man was a Hawthorn man but there is fantasy and reality.

Pick 1/23 years old/required and contracted gun player = 2 x early 1st rounders.

Next years first round pick and Ben Stratton, there's plenty of ways to come up with currency.

Future picks can't be traded 2 years in advance obviously.

Geelong did it.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Geelong did it.

No, they traded a future pick two years in a row.

It's not the same thing.

 

[beta_condition]

No, they traded a future pick two years in a row.

It's not the same thing.

Woops misread that as trading 2 future picks in consecutive years, either way it be easy enough to get the currency for Whitfield just all depends if Hawthorn are prepared to make it happen.

 

[KermitJagger]

Well I guess we can give this one up, if the whisp has mentioned it - it probably won't happen

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Well I guess we can give this one up, if the whisp has mentioned it - it probably won't happen

LOL. "Will need a new target".

Good one, dickhead.

 

[Andre the Giant]

There are multiple ways in which a trade could be done.

Bloody hell, Jed Anderson and a couple of late picks earned Hawthorn pick 15, but you think Wright couldn't possibly do something similar, getting a better pick by trading a better player in 2017, then handing it over with something else.

All last September we were told that JOM and Tom was a fantasy, that Hawthorn couldn't possibly trade for both. That Hawthorn had no trade currency.

There's literally a handful of ways Wright could come up with GWS requirements if Whitfield decides he wants to go home.

I get that you probably don't want it to eventuate, but pretending like it's completely impossible is the real fantasy.

Fine if he was out of contract but he is contracted, required and one of our best players. This fact means you would have to do something extraordinary not just market rate as we are not compelled to lift a finger.

As I said, best we talk again in 12 months.

 

[Holy Rioli]

Fine if he was out of contract but he is contracted, required and one of our best players. This fact means you would have to do something extraordinary not just market rate as we are not compelled to lift a finger.

As I said, best we talk again in 12 months.

I have no inside information in this particular space, so this is just a regular poster having a discussion about this. But I wonder who GWS would prefer to keep, Whitfield or Cognelio (I honestly don't know the answer to this, Cognelio has had his injury concerns but when fit the GWS midfield has improved out of sight, and Whitfield has an x against his name after the 8 week suspension this year).

But if we are told to come back in 12 months time, I have a feeling it will be Cognelio we'll be asking about, not Whitfield.

 

[Andre the Giant]

I have no inside information in this particular space, so this is just a regular poster having a discussion about this. But I wonder who GWS would prefer to keep, Whitfield or Cognelio (I honestly don't know the answer to this, Cognelio has had his injury concerns but when fit the GWS midfield has improved out of sight, and Whitfield has an x against his name after the 8 week suspension this year).

But if we are told to come back in 12 months time, I have a feeling it will be Cognelio we'll be asking about, not Whitfield.

Also contracted and very happy in Sydney. If Cogs ever left us it would be to head home to WA where his family is.

If we won a flag maybe Shiel is the one to enquire about as he has the strongest Melbourne tie however he has been incredibly loyal to us thus far and also seems really happy.

I reckon Gold Coast is a happier hunting ground atm as our boys are pretty tight.

 

[Holy Rioli]

Also contracted and very happy in Sydney. If Cogs ever left us it would be to head home to WA where his family is.

If we won a flag maybe Shiel is the one to enquire about as he has the strongest Melbourne tie however he has been incredibly loyal to us thus far and also seems really happy.

I reckon Gold Coast is a happier hunting ground atm as our boys are pretty tight.

I got a feeling if Cognelio wanted out of GWS, it will be Hawthorn he'll want to go to. Home sickness isn't a concern anymore for him, and I don't think he'd leave without a flag first. If GWS believed he was going to leave as a free agent in 2019, they'd trade him in 2018 at his maximum trade value.