Marriage equality debate - The plebiscite is on its way. (Cont in Pt 3)

[HairyO]

You have ******* skywriters, and yet still complaining about no free speech?

I heard how much they cost. I wish I had that sort of cash lying around.

Are you lumping me in with people voting no? Even though Im voting yes.

You seem to struggle with defending your position and resort to insults a lot. I assume you are an angry school kid?

 

[chelseacarlton]

Why so angry when nothing actually matters?

Lol
I,like many people whom have obviously reasoned that fairies,unicorns,Santa,Jesus,Muhammad,Thor,medusa etc did/do not exist because,there simply is "no" evidence for them historically except the silly and fanciful fairytale books and supposed revelations,holy(lol) texts etc etc and in the minds of believers whom I equate to simply being mentally ill,somehow justifies or equates to me not believing in anything or believing that "nothing actually matters" because,physics has substantial evidence for the fact that the universe was created from nothing and that life is inevitable and not because of a big omniscient uber galactic supernatural supvisor like what I'm assuming is your belief.
In other words,the universe wants to kill us,does not know we exist and couldn't care one iota about us,yet we prevail,just as many other highly evolved virus' do,despite the enormous variable conditions we compete against.
It is my contention that you and those like you are mentally ill,or delusional or have been brainwashed by your school,family,community or congregation.
There is far greater evidence for my belief based on empirical evidence than anything you or your brethren could ever supply or I would simply ask you to prove it,which you cannot,because,it does not simply exist!
I do however regardless of your banal,asinine,ridiculous assertion that I don't think anything matters has been dealt with in numerous other threads about god,creation,atheism,evolution etc etc on this board.
PS you are an idiot!
PSS did I stutter,do I make myself clear?

VOTE YES
Unless of course you are a small minded bigot or uninformed,uneducated,unevolved lower primate than what that rest of us currently are!
Actually,I believe in LOVE!
Yep,love,there ya have it,love!

 

[Lebbo73]

If you cant tell the difference between a general election and this ridiculous survey then there is no help for you.

Whoa........you don't like someone else's opinion so you act like a dick! Good job. BigFooty is for you.

 

[Number37]

Curious, has anyone on here changed their views or possibly even just softened on their stance either way on this matter since the plebiscite was announced

Yep.

I thought the no camp were just misinformed.

Turns out they are just stupid.
Can always inform, not much we can do about stupidity.

 

[mxett]

Curious, has anyone on here changed their views or possibly even just softened on their stance either way on this matter since the plebiscite was announced

I'll so no. I was always going to vote the way I have, but I respect others opinions. But my original view that many people on the 'yes' side are intolerant of any other view has been confirmed.

 

[Belnakor]

• violent, aggressive protests, people telling others what to think/do (shades of Brexit and Trump.

I think the kind of behaviour from the "Yes" camp has significantly damaged their vote and the polling has it 55/45 yes/no you can bet your bottom dollar this is understated due to people being unwilling to put their views forward at risk of being harassed / shouted down.

 

[Maggie5]

Whoa........you don't like someone else's opinion so you act like a dick! Good job. BigFooty is for you.

Is that the reason you are on here?

 

[AM]

Always enjoy seeing who gets Mike Carlton's Right-wing ****wit (RWFW) of the week.

Couldn't be a more deserved winner this week for the disgraceful piece headed Labor Promises Gay Gestapo.

 

[Belnakor]

this allows safe schools into all schools (growing opposition to this program and some of the content)

Safe schools are a bunch of dangerous extremists who the "yes" camp should be distancing themselves from at a rate of knots. Will definitely cost them votes.

 

[Belnakor]

Curious, has anyone on here changed their views or possibly even just softened on their stance either way on this matter since the plebiscite was announced

I was originally not going to vote but the way the Yes campaign have carried on had made me more likely to vote No.

 

[cannot]

Safe schools are a bunch of dangerous extremists who the "yes" camp should be distancing themselves from at a rate of knots. Will definitely cost them votes.

it doesnt matter 8 year old - what you were born with... you can be whatever you want to be...

we dont like biology around here

 

[Dan Baker]

Labor had two mandates to sort out same sex marriage and Bill Shorten said no. That includes Penny Wong.

Personally marriage is a different animal now. Gay people can have kids. Gay people can have a civil union. Heterosexuals cant have a civil union. Then again, I don't see the point of marriage as people have kids out of wedlock now.

Personally, I don't see any reason gay people not get married in the watered down version it is. Gay people would however be naive if they thought there no politics in play here. They are being played by pro SSM parties who said no prior when they were in office.

Apart from a different piece of paper, what do SSM families gain out of the different piece of paper?

 

[Sainteric]

Lol
I,like many people whom have obviously reasoned that fairies,unicorns,Santa,Jesus,Muhammad,Thor,medusa etc did/do not exist because,there simply is "no" evidence for them historically except the silly and fanciful fairytale books and supposed revelations,holy(lol) texts etc etc and in the minds of believers whom I equate to simply being mentally ill,somehow justifies or equates to me not believing in anything or believing that "nothing actually matters" because,physics has substantial evidence for the fact that the universe was created from nothing and that life is inevitable and not because of a big omniscient uber galactic supernatural supvisor like what I'm assuming is your belief.
In other words,the universe wants to kill us,does not know we exist and couldn't care one iota about us,yet we prevail,just as many other highly evolved virus' do,despite the enormous variable conditions we compete against.
It is my contention that you and those like you are mentally ill,or delusional or have been brainwashed by your school,family,community or congregation.
There is far greater evidence for my belief based on empirical evidence than anything you or your brethren could ever supply or I would simply ask you to prove it,which you cannot,because,it does not simply exist!
I do however regardless of your banal,asinine,ridiculous assertion that I don't think anything matters has been dealt with in numerous other threads about god,creation,atheism,evolution etc etc on this board.
PS you are an idiot!
PSS did I stutter,do I make myself clear?

VOTE YES
Unless of course you are a small minded bigot or uninformed,uneducated,unevolved lower primate than what that rest of us currently are!
Actually,I believe in LOVE!
Yep,love,there ya have it,love!

On the physics bit there is a number of competing theories on the universe existance but none as far as i know come from nothing.

 

[Maggie5]

Some of the posts on this page, groan, head slapping...

Safe Schools? WTF!

 

[Sainteric]

Religion is at best a couple thousand years old. Marriages goes back much further. I'm no scholar but I've done a little research. The information is readily available.

Unless you're a bible literalist and think the world is 6000 years old. Then we're at an impasse.

The jewish version of marriage goes back 1000s of years and has been the basis for what we in the west consider marriage. Even germanic tribes of 2000 years ago had a version of religious marriage. The definition of marriage has been set by time, a long time and culture. The rabbi's main point was we want to now change the definition which isnt necessarily gaining equality.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You seem to resort to insults a lot.

I assume you are an angry school kid?

If you think this is a free speech, you have no idea.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I think the kind of behaviour from the "Yes" camp has significantly damaged their vote and the polling has it 55/45 yes/no you can bet your bottom dollar this is understated due to people being unwilling to put their views forward at risk of being harassed / shouted down.

What behaviour? Pointing out bigoted opinions are bigoted?

 

[cannot]

If you think this is a free speech, you have no idea.

i am a leftie and i got banned from the conservative safe thread for making a right wing comment

i am sad

On the physics bit there is a number of competing theories on the universe existance but none as far as i know come from nothing.

its called the big bang theory

written by a jesuit priest

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The jewish version of marriage goes back 1000s of years and has been the basis for what we in the west consider marriage. Even germanic tribes of 2000 years ago had a version of religious marriage. The definition of marriage has been set by time, a long time and culture. The rabbi's main point was we want to now change the definition which isnt necessarily gaining equality.

Marriage then has very little similarity to marriage now. Even if it did, that's no reason to not change.

 

[Reynolds Number]

I was going to vote yes..

Yeah, sure.

 

[GreyWind]

I was going to vote yes..

Yeah, sure.

I get a laugh out of it.
"I was going to vote yes, but the way the yes side have conducted themselves mean I will vote no."
Proceeds to ignore everything the No vote has done.

 

[Sainteric]

This is the fundamental flaw in the focus on the No campaign. It underscores how they are either misrepresenting the issue or don't understand the reason why most people will vote Yes.

The battle over privacy and what someone does in their own home was settled long ago. Homosexuality is now a social norm.

This is a battle over the rights of those gay couples to publicly declare & commit to their relationships in the same way non-gay couples can.

Voting No isn't going to push gay people back into the privacy of their own homes.

I think you misinterpret that he doesnt mean that literally per se, he would probably say the same about a hetrosexual relationship.

 

[cannot]

Marriage then has very little similarity to marriage now. Even if it did, that's no reason to not change.

Marriage is a religious thing isnt it?

 

[Belnakor]

What behaviour? Pointing out bigoted opinions are bigoted?

Thanks for proving my point.

You sound like that nutter who sacked a staffer because they were anti-gay marriage and called them a homophobe.

 

[Showbags]

I'll so no. I was always going to vote the way I have, but I respect others opinions. But my original view that many people on the 'yes' side are intolerant of any other view has been confirmed.

Absolutely, im intolerant of stupid arguments and people trying to retain their religious definition of marriage in the Marriage Act.

Im more than happy for you to express your view

I think the kind of behaviour from the "Yes" camp has significantly damaged their vote and the polling has it 55/45 yes/no you can bet your bottom dollar this is understated due to people being unwilling to put their views forward at risk of being harassed / shouted down.

What polling says 55/45?

What a load of rubbish in regards people being afraid to voice their NO opinion. Most polls are conducted anonymously.