If Brendon Ah Chee ever hits you with a left hook

[finbarr]

He's such a conundrum. He literally has every single tool.

The 25m handball under pressure to a teammate hard against the boundary line in Q3 was mouthwatering.

Should be playing in Sam Gray's spot and would be cutting it up if given such an extended run in the top team. But Sam keeps on hitting Ken's useless Moneyball KPI's so......

 

[Harlott]

From what I saw yesterday he seems like a natural forward. He can mark with the occasional hanger, can kick a goal, has a weapon of a handball that could find a free player in an unsuspected position in the forward lines and can weave through traffic. I wouldn't waste any more time trying to make him our 4th mid. He definitely needs to work harder to stay in games longer but he really could give us something really important if he does.

 

[finbarr]

From what I saw yesterday he seems like a natural forward. He can mark with the occasional hanger, can kick a goal, has a weapon of a handball that could find a free player in an unsuspected position in the forward lines and can weave through traffic. I wouldn't waste any more time trying to make him our 4th mid. He definitely needs to work harder to stay in games longer but he really could give us something really important if he does.

And he keeps his feet.

 

[Steve Dore]

Hoping Archie stays on another one year contract but can't blame him for seeking better opportunities elsewhere. If only he was a few centimeters shorter.

 

[mic59]

I looked at the consecutive games he played against GCFC, Geelong, Hawthorn and Essendon. He was in the best players against Hawthorn, scored 3 goals against Gold Coast and at least 1 against any other team. He had 26 disposals in the game against the Hawks at a DE% of 61.5%. When he was dropped after the Essendon game he had only 54% of game time and 9 disposals at 77.8% in that time. Impey had 90% TOG and 11 disposals at 45.5% so if Ken is using those stats as his excuse to give Jarman game time over Ah Chee he otherwise can't add up or doesn't want to admit to the fact we made a bad draft call on him.
One of the things I have heard in circles about Ah Chee is that his disposal isn't the best. There isn't too much to go on but apart from the Geelong game where his DE was 43.8%, two have been in the 60s and the Essendon game was 77.8%. But I can't see the reason anyone would use those figures unless they were continually terrible.
If we're going to hold onto Brendon and move up in 2018 he has to be the first choice for the positions commanded by Young and Impey this year.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brendon_Ah_Chee.html

 

[Powerade 08]

From what I saw yesterday he seems like a natural forward. He can mark with the occasional hanger, can kick a goal, has a weapon of a handball that could find a free player in an unsuspected position in the forward lines and can weave through traffic. I wouldn't waste any more time trying to make him our 4th mid. He definitely needs to work harder to stay in games longer but he really could give us something really important if he does.

A natural forward who cannot lead, crumb or pressure opposition.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

How awesome was his goal in the last quarter?

One of the best clutch plays I have seen from a Port player in a long time (along with Ryder and Robbie v St Kilda).

We so desperately need clutch finishers in our AFL side I'd just about play him.all year next year just on that!

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[Enviable Tradition]

A natural forward who cannot lead, crumb or pressure opposition.

How many pressure acts do you think equal those 2 clutch goals?

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[FishingRick04]

I personally feel he's one of the best handballers we have.

So it must be his kicking that is questionable.

 

[Steve Dore]

... So it must be his kicking that is questionable.

His two last quarter goals yesterday were both terrible kicks.

 

[FishingRick04]

His two last quarter goals yesterday were both terrible kicks.

They were shockingly amazing. It's so rare a Port player executes under pressure I was shocked lol

 

[Steve Dore]

They were shockingly amazing. It's so rare a Port player executes under pressure I was shocked lol

It's clearly not just his excessive height that is preventing Ken from playing him in the forward line.

 

[simmo_bc]

He definitely needs to work harder to stay in games longer.

This is the big one for me and off the top of my head, he hasn't played well against the good teams (refer Impey).

I guess the question is whether he has the capacity to work harder and whether the PAFC has the capacity to get the best out of him as a footballer?

 

[mic59]

A natural forward who cannot lead, crumb or pressure opposition.

Too many forwards are getting games at the moment simply because they pressure opposition. This is great when there is a gameplan in place for someone else to take away that loose ball but it seems that the player who can actually do something has lost favour to the player who can apply pressure. Jake Neade was getting games and applying forward pressure but very little ever came of what he did. He is now doing a bit more. Jarman Impey seems to be Ken's great hope of applying forward pressure although this has disappeared over the back end of the season. In the first 9 games he played he scored 12.5 but in the 11 since he has scored 3.9. If he can be given that much latitude surely Ah Chee, who did at least deliver in the few games he played scoring at least 1 goal every game, should get more of a chance?

 

[Harlott]

This is the big one for me and off the top of my head, he hasn't played well against the good teams (refer Impey).

I guess the question is whether he has the capacity to work harder and whether the PAFC has the capacity to get the best out of him as a footballer?

How old is he? He's running out of time to be just a burst player. If they can get him to be involved twice as much as he has been, we'll have an influential player.

 

[Harlott]

Too many forwards are getting games at the moment simply because they pressure opposition. This is great when there is a gameplan in place for someone else to take away that loose ball but it seems that the player who can actually do something has lost favour to the player who can apply pressure. Jake Neade was getting games and applying forward pressure but very little ever came of what he did. He is now doing a bit more. Jarman Impey seems to be Ken's great hope of applying forward pressure although this has disappeared over the back end of the season. In the first 9 games he played he scored 12.5 but in the 11 since he has scored 3.9. If he can be given that much latitude surely Ah Chee, who did at least deliver in the few games he played scoring at least 1 goal every game, should get more of a chance?

I'm sold on everything Jarman Impey is about except the final most important bit. His kicking.

 

[King_Tredrea]

I too see what AhChee has to offer, and it's a fair bit, but gee the amount of times he looks out of his depth and panicked with the ball isn't great

 

[mic59]

His two last quarter goals yesterday were both terrible kicks.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

A natural forward who cannot lead, crumb or pressure opposition.

Yea there's a fair bit of stroking the pet lizard going on in this thread at the moment, Arch has not been up to it when played as a forward with a squirt in the middle here and there at AFL level.

 

[FishingRick04]

Yea there's a fair bit of stroking the pet lizard going on in this thread at the moment, Arch has not been up to it when played as a forward with a squirt in the middle here and there at AFL level.

I think there is a fair argument mounted that the assumptions he's not up to it are based on limited opportunities and not an extended run. Even his 3 game run this year isn't as bad as what people are suggesting

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

I think there is a fair argument mounted that the assumptions he's not up to it are based on limited opportunities and not an extended run. Even his 3 game run this year isn't as bad as what people are suggesting

I just see him as midfielder full stop and if he can't crack it as a starting mid with SPP & Atley coming through he's probably best to look elsewhere because he's not a good enough forward.

 

[FishingRick04]

I just see him as midfielder full stop and if he can't crack it as a starting mid with SPP & Atley coming through he's probably best to look elsewhere because he's not a good enough forward.

He's a forward rotating midfielder.

He isn't the answer to our prayers however

 

[Zakk Wylde]

He'd be a better option than some that had more than a decent opportunity.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Absolutely this. He also kicked well for goal at AFL level too. I rate his goal kicking better than any of our regular AFL players. This kid deserved a place in our side way before Impey and Johnson. I don't think he was particularly bad in any of his handful of AFL games, yet he was the first one dropped.

I've read on our various threads by people clearly closer to the club than myself that Ken really likes Impey and Johnson
so there you have it. Johnson went to China () based on O Dan Houston missed out based on..... ahh......reasons.
Impey gets chance after chance. Jarman at season's end was avoiding a shot on goal from 35m out Cathedral end.
Frankly I thought we were lucky Clurey didn't walk when O Shea was spudding it up.

 

[simmo_bc]

I am not Ah Chees biggest fan but agree that it would be good to give him a solid block of 5 or 6 weeks with the confidence he won't be dropped after week 3.

But I guess not too many people can be afforded that luxury in professional sport unless you are Mark Taylor re mid 90s test cricket team!

In any case, I think the club has done well by Ah Chee given his first few years at the club were riddled with injury, he has carved out a 6 year career without being a regular.