Universal Love Steve Johnson "The cat with the giant story"

[Spazz Cat]

Say what you will, but this part is totally accurate:



Even more so after we allowed Motlop to walk while his replacements are still in the rehab group. 2 years on and we are still waiting to see McCarthy and Gregson string more than a handful of games together in one season. Add to that Lang, who outside of this season has atleast shown some durability up till now, but we let him leave nor peanuts.

Yep. Gotta agree with that.

 

[Deep]

I'd say it was Bartel at the end more than Stevie that cost us that win.

But that doesn't change the fact that it was the most stupid Geelong 'effort' from an individual since the Varcoe 2013 prelim choke

 

[Spazz Cat]

But that doesn't change the fact that it was the most stupid Geelong 'effort' from an individual since the Varcoe 2013 prelim choke

Yeah it was dumb

 

[Whit3y]

SJ forgot mention that him costing us the game against St Kilda that resulted in a draw because of his sheer stupidity is probably what stamped his papers.

stkilda finished 14th that year. geez we must have been shit that year, you cant really pinpoint sj as the man that cost us that game?

 

[thejester]

Interesting that he paints himself as the victim of a youth policy rather than having alienated coaches and senior players, as was reported subsequently.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Say what you will, but this part is totally accurate:



Even more so after we allowed Motlop to walk while his replacements are still in the rehab group. 2 years on and we are still waiting to see McCarthy and Gregson string more than a handful of games together in one season. Add to that Lang, who outside of this season has atleast shown some durability up till now, but we let him leave for peanuts.

It isn't accurate though, who would be more likely to be playing in the Cats next Premiership team? A 33 year old SJ whose on his last year or a 20 year old talented kid?
Yep, unlucky we can't get to see them on the park as often as we should but just because they were injured doesn't make the decision a wrong one.
He keeps saying about how good he WAS, yet ignores that he had 15 games left in him anyway, he would have been pushed out of the side 2/3rds of the way through 2016 at best I reckon.
I love him, but he's re-writing history a bit I reckon.

 

[Deep]

stkilda finished 14th that year. geez we must have been shit that year, you cant really pinpoint sj as the man that cost us that game?

We finished 4 points and percentage below 8th. Had we not drawn to St Kilda because of SJ & if the AFL allowed us to flog Adelaide which we proved later in the year that we could rather than cancelling the game we would of made it.

 

[Spazz Cat]

It isn't accurate though, who would be more likely to be playing in the Cats next Premiership team? A 33 year old SJ whose on his last year or a 20 year old talented kid?
Yep, unlucky we can't get to see them on the park as often as we should but just because they were injured doesn't make the decision a wrong one.
He keeps saying about how good he WAS, yet ignores that he had 15 games left in him anyway, he would have been pushed out of the side 2/3rds of the way through 2016 at best I reckon.
I love him, but he's re-writing history a bit I reckon.

Another way of looking at it though is that we played in a prelim the next year and the 20 yo kid turned out to be not so talented and the absolute obvious injury troubles happened again.
I reckon he's on the money with this one. Didn't make a lot of sense at the time.

 

[catempire]

Interesting that he paints himself as the victim of a youth policy rather than having alienated coaches and senior players, as was reported subsequently.

It’s hard to contemplate anyone being capable of admiting such a thing, let alone someone with as much er, “self-confidence”, as Johnno.

 

[GeelongFTW]

this is what he was thinking in 2015. couldn't his views have changed since then?

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Another way of looking at it though is that we played in a prelim the next year and the 20 yo kid turned out to be not so talented and the absolute obvious injury troubles happened again.
I reckon he's on the money with this one. Didn't make a lot of sense at the time.

I disagree, I don't think he would have been in the team by finals last year (his form for GWS showed this, plus his very SJ suspension) but I can see the opposing view.

 

[David the Cat]

Stevie's jog into goals v St Kilda was unforgivable.

He should have been given a game in the VFL to get his ego/arrogance into perspective.

 

[thejester]

It’s hard to contemplate anyone being capable of admiting such a thing, let alone someone with as much er, “self-confidence”, as Johnno.

Certainly in terms that precise, but he could easily have hinted at tensions with other players.

 

[Vdubs]

We finished 4 points and percentage below 8th. Had we not drawn to St Kilda because of SJ & if the AFL allowed us to flog Adelaide which we proved later in the year that we could rather than cancelling the game we would of made it.

Not worth debating, as we are never certs in Adelaide, and Saints beat us the following year. SJ did his cause of remaining a Cat no value at all that night, but I suspect it was the last straw anyway.

 

[Deep]

Stevie's jog into goals v St Kilda was unforgivable.

He should have been given a game in the VFL to get his ego/arrogance into perspective.

Sadly he was one of the better players that night too at least near the goals

 

[Cattery]

Month prior to that?
His end of the year was ok (it's easy enough to look at stats but watching the games he had zero impact in most of them), but nothing close to 1; what he could produce often, and 2; what HE thought he could produce.
I recall talk on this board about 6-8 weeks from the end of the year that he should be dropped from the side.

Month prior he was averaging twenty disposals and a goal and a quarter a game (half a goal below his average for the year) so I fail to see where he was struggling for form, and was certainly in no danger of being dropped.

It isn't accurate though, who would be more likely to be playing in the Cats next Premiership team? A 33 year old SJ whose on his last year or a 20 year old talented kid?
Yep, unlucky we can't get to see them on the park as often as we should but just because they were injured doesn't make the decision a wrong one.
He keeps saying about how good he WAS, yet ignores that he had 15 games left in him anyway, he would have been pushed out of the side 2/3rds of the way through 2016 at best I reckon.
I love him, but he's re-writing history a bit I reckon.

How do you come to that conclusion, had a better year in 2016 then 2015, playing twenty two games for a side that finished one game behind us on the ladder.

Interesting that he paints himself as the victim of a youth policy rather than having alienated coaches and senior players, as was reported subsequently.

It’s hard to contemplate anyone being capable of admiting such a thing, let alone someone with as much er, “self-confidence”, as Johnno.

Certainly in terms that precise, but he could easily have hinted at tensions with other players.

Or possibly he didn't fess up because these "problems" only existed in the minds of some posters on here.

 

[The Unforgiven]

Stevie's jog into goals v St Kilda was unforgivable.

He should have been given a game in the VFL to get his ego/arrogance into perspective.

I love Stevie J and all that he has done for our club, but that was one of the most frustrating things I've ever seen a Geelong player do.

Boy, did I lose my shit at the TV that night!

 

[The Unforgiven]

I think we can all agree that Chris Scott handled the situation as good as anyone possibly could have.

I think highly of Chris, but he's just gone up in my estimations. Haters are going to hate, but he's all class in my book.

 

[HaroLad]

Started reading it, seems to be a good read so far.

Would recommend.

 

[Deep]

I love Stevie J and all that he has done for our club, but that was one of the most frustrating things I've ever seen a Geelong player do.

Boy, did I lose my shit at the TV that night!

I was flown over for that BS! Cost us the match

 

[catempire]

Certainly in terms that precise, but he could easily have hinted at tensions with other players.

I’m keen to read the book to get a more complete picture, but a lot of that extract aligns with what we already know. I think we can infer a lot of the “tension” story from other things that have been said. For example, you don’t give a player of Johnson’s talent the arse to give Gregson and McCarthy more opportunities unless there are other (unobservable to the punter) issues.

But I really can’t see SJ coming out and saying “I wasn’t following instructions and that was a part of my demise” (or some variation thereof).

 

[dazbroncos]

Say what you will, but this part is totally accurate:



Even more so after we allowed Motlop to walk while his replacements are still in the rehab group. 2 years on and we are still waiting to see McCarthy and Gregson string more than a handful of games together in one season. Add to that Lang, who outside of this season has atleast shown some durability up till now, but we let him leave for peanuts.

umm...

I get the point you are making and I know using the phrase "we are still waiting to see them string more than a handful of games together" suits your narrative but Gregson in his first year played 20 games before the foot injury. Now I get he's been out since that injury and we have seen nothing since but to say he couldnt " play more than a handful" is just wrong.

GO Catters

 

[Seeds]

Stevie's jog into goals v St Kilda was unforgivable.

He should have been given a game in the VFL to get his ego/arrogance into perspective.

he was geelongs best player that game by a street. kicked four goals. was the only geelong player in the forward line trying.

 

[Seeds]

I was flown over for that BS! Cost us the match

bartel gave away four goals that night. johnson kicked four as well as set up a number of others. but cos johnson got tackled due to poor awareness in the secodn qtr (and made up with it with a stunning goal literally 1 minute later) its his fault we drew and didnt win?

great logic there champ.

 

[David the Cat]

bartel gave away four goals that might. johnson kicked four as well as set up a number of others. but cos johnson got tackled due to poor awareness in the secodn qtr (and made up with it with a stunning goal literally 1 minute later) its his fault we drew and didnt win?

great logic there champ.

Got tackled because of poor awareness? That's putting jam on a shit sandwich if ever I heard it....

It is the type of act that makes a coach' blood boil...for more than one reason.