What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? (Part 1 - cont in Part 2)

[Minka Beaver]

Have open slather then.

"Too many rotations" is a complete non-issue to me. The game isn't going to de-evolve and go away from defensive structures that work, and nor should it, either.

It might not devolve, but the 20 year trend towards lower scoring and greater congestion will continue - and that’s not what the AFL wants.

Eventually there’ll be a major law change and it will involve either reducing player numbers, introducing enforced zones or severely limiting rotations.

The last of those options is the most preferable, I reckon.

 

[Scotland]

We romanticise the good old days but a big part of full forwards and full backs staying inside 50 is because they weren't capable of running back to back 100s for fun like Nick Riewoldt. The game is approaching the point where every player in the 22 needs to be capable of running 10-15km a game.

 

[Minka Beaver]

We romanticise the good old days but a big part of full forwards and full backs staying inside 50 is because they weren't capable of running back to back 100s for fun like Nick Riewoldt. The game is approaching the point where every player in the 22 needs to be capable of running 10-15km a game.

The loss of positional play is why I remain convinced that at some point there'll be a recalibration.

When the VFL began in 1897, it was a 20-a-side game. At some point in the not too distant future, the AFL will reduce teams to 16 players in order to better balance positional play and athleticism.

 

[Leviathan Pie]

-No ex footballers as commentators over 40 yo.
-Bring in more women like daisy pierce who speak more clearly and sensibly than all the old fogeys.
-dismember certain morning radio show hosts limb by limb and replace them with some youf.

Daisy Pearce does not speak clearly.....lol

 

[gavaniacono]

Daisy Pearce does not speak clearly.....lol

Yes she does.

 

[Billy ray]

I like a penalty for encroaching on the protected area.
BUT
I think it should be a 25m penalty, or 15m. 50m is too much.

 

[Quivorir]

Yes she does.

Maybe in between every stutter after she ****s up saying something simple. So yeah, one or two clear words a sentence.

 

[Quivorir]

I like a penalty for encroaching on the protected area.
BUT
I think it should be a 25m penalty, or 15m. 50m is too much.

Id prefer a more common sense approach. Did the player in this zone interfere with play in any way? If not play on. A player on the left side of the ball user is not interfering when the ball user is trying to move the ball to right.

 

[gavaniacono]

Maybe in between every stutter after she ****s up saying something simple. So yeah, one or two clear words a sentence.

Not at all. Thoughts well arranged, points well made. She gets her points across very well. Never left wondering what her opinion is

 

[Run n Spread]

Disappointing from Carlton last night, leads to my opinion.

When rebuilding I'm not convinced playing endless kids and drilling endless defensive tactics into them is the best for long term success.

When the crunch comes and those teams need results and scalps they are not ruthless in being able to put the good sides away in big moments.

Read: Melbourne last year and Carlton last night when they had a couple of chances to really put it to Richmond but stuffed around turned it over and Richmond just went thanks without doing too much.

 

[caloschwaby]

Burn me at the stake, but...
Dusty isn't as good as a lot of people make him out to be.

 

[Scotland]

I like a penalty for encroaching on the protected area.
BUT
I think it should be a 25m penalty, or 15m. 50m is too much.

It needs an element of common sense like passive offside in soccer. Too often you see a player mark the ball then an opponent who is already within 5-10m doesn't know what to do to avoid being penalised. If you're not running through the mark or affecting the player with the ball then 50m is a very harsh penalty.

The problem with the old 15m penalty is that in modern footy teams would just use it to slow the game down. In the time taken to reset the mark 15m you could get 6 guys to run back behind the play.

 

[Luv_our_club]

Burn me at the stake, but...
Dusty isn't as good as a lot of people make him out to be.

Dangerfield would be by FAR the better player, if he could kick. Danger bursts out of the pack...... and..... then brings his teams back into a 50/50.

Dusty's elite foot skills make him the best at the moment.

But I agree Dusty should not be on a lone pedestal above others like Swan, Ablett, Mitchell etc.

 

[caloschwaby]

Dangerfield would be by FAR the better player, if he could kick. Danger bursts out of the pack...... and..... then brings his teams back into a 50/50.

Dusty's elite foot skills make him the best at the moment.

But I agree Dusty should not be on a lone pedestal above others like Swan, Ablett, Mitchell etc.

What annoys me most is the fact the CH7 and the AFL media in general brings players like Martin up to create a narrative they can use to promote the footy.
No one cares about the dude on the bench who intercepted a vital mark that saved a goal or two after Dusty lays out out a single stiff arm.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Disappointing from Carlton last night, leads to my opinion.

When rebuilding I'm not convinced playing endless kids and drilling endless defensive tactics into them is the best for long term success.

When the crunch comes and those teams need results and scalps they are not ruthless in being able to put the good sides away in big moments.

Read: Melbourne last year and Carlton last night when they had a couple of chances to really put it to Richmond but stuffed around turned it over and Richmond just went thanks without doing too much.

There can't be a seamless transition unless the talent is present and developed, and their best players (on potential) aren't ready yet. These will be growing pains that Carlton have to have. They'll win some games impressively and get flogged in some, if Bolton stays the course.

 

[Scotland]

There has been no one on a lone pedestal since Ablett got injured at Gold Coast.

Fyfe, Danger, Martin have all had turns as the #1 but they're all pretty close.

 

[yeahmate]

There has been no one on a lone pedestal since Ablett got injured at Gold Coast.

Fyfe, Danger, Martin have all had turns as the #1 but they're all pretty close.

Franklin? Or we just talking mids

 

[Luv_our_club]

What annoys me most is the fact the CH7 and the AFL media in general brings players like Martin up to create a narrative they can use to promote the footy.
No one cares about the dude on the bench who intercepted a vital mark that saved a goal or two after Dusty lays out out a single stiff arm.

I hate that this also turns people off great players... like Dusty and Cyril, ..........I used to get sick of the commentary of James Hird which goes to show you that it is not a new problem and obviously not an accident.

 

[caloschwaby]

I hate that this also turns people off great players... like Dusty and Cyril, ..........I used to get sick of the commentary of James Hird which goes to show you that it is not a new problem and obviously not an accident.

I think fans would get a lot more out of the footy by finding players by themselves that they enjoy watching rather than have certain playing shoved down their throats so-to-speak by commentators.

 

[Scotland]

Franklin? Or we just talking mids

Was just talking mids.

Franklin has been the best forward over the last decade but even he hasn't been the best forward every single season. He's been the closest to a 'revolutionary' player in that time being able to kick 100 goals in a season and effectively play as a tall high possession flanker.

You see the same phenomenon each year whether it's mids, forwards, defenders or rucks. Someone is going to be #1 therefore people will always argue how much better #1 is than #2, #3 or whoever else. Buddy, Rance, Martin, Danger... happens to all. If you're lucky you get thrown into GOAT considerations too. Footy doesn't really lend itself to one player being that much better than everyone else.

 

[Run n Spread]

There can't be a seamless transition unless the talent is present and developed, and their best players (on potential) aren't ready yet. These will be growing pains that Carlton have to have. They'll win some games impressively and get flogged in some, if Bolton stays the course.

Reminds me the last time I went fishing. I drifted the most impressive course available.

Until I nearly crashed the boat and had to call for help/bail out. And never caught a fish.

How long before it becomes obvious the plan ain't working?

 

[Kram]

It needs an element of common sense like passive offside in soccer. Too often you see a player mark the ball then an opponent who is already within 5-10m doesn't know what to do to avoid being penalised. If you're not running through the mark or affecting the player with the ball then 50m is a very harsh penalty.

The problem with the old 15m penalty is that in modern footy teams would just use it to slow the game down. In the time taken to reset the mark 15m you could get 6 guys to run back behind the play.

iirc in the 2016 PF a Bulldogs player ran through it late in the game v GWS but I assumed the ump just didn't have the courage to call it in such a big moment.

 

[Hawker_85]

It's like that scene in the Redford / Gandolfini movie. Redford goes to a military prison as a war-hardened general. Gandolfini, whilst a high ranking military officer has never seen a battlefield.

When they meet in his office the first time, Gandolfini has war medals, trinkets, models of battlefields, memorabilia everywhere. And he's proud of. Immensely.

Redford turns around to him and says something like; anyone who has a collection like that, must have never done the real thing.

I liken that quote to fantasy football. I mean, look at the vast majority of people that play it. They're either fat & sad, or skinny nerdbangers who'd get blown over in a stiff wind.

Have you deployed mate? Or are you just masturbating while living vicariously through a fiction like you are accusing the supercoach guys of doing? Why are you watching a movie about war rather than doing it for real?

 

[Hard Ball Get]

iirc in the 2016 PF a Bulldogs player ran through it late in the game v GWS but I assumed the ump just didn't have the courage to call it in such a big moment.

Not true. Clay Smith was close tithe area. Touch and go - wasn't paid. Right call IMO, bit just as a dogs fan - ask dogs board I'm pretty straight down the line with the umps.

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Yes she does.

No, she doesn't - the 'ums' and 'ahhs' are awful.