Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 8

[CharlieKelly]

Less than Jonas lmao

One plays for Port, the other plays for AFL.......I mean, GWS

 

[LFC2010]

Jonas hit was worse

5 weeks is fair.

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and Cameron's record is worse also.
why can't people understand for that reason alone he deserved more than Jonas who had a good record at the time of his sus?

 

[PAFC66]

Jonas's hit was not worse?!

 

[finbarr]

Why is Jordan Lewis passing any sort of judgement on Jeremy Cameron? His whack on Goldstein was at least twice as bad. Pretty much tried to kill him.

 

[elpirate]

How was Jonas worse?

This.

Wasn't it declared Jonas had a bad record and this inflated his penalty?

Still, Jeremy Cameron is no angel as far as his record goes.

Should've been the same as Jonas at least.

 

[The Rubber Man]

How was Jonas worse?

Jonas had time to pull out of the contest. Cameron jumped, was pushed at the same time and tried to protect his head when he realised the contest was coming, ended up elbowing someone with raised arm while looking away (protecting his own head)

Jonas hit was ridiculously late.

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[240volt]

5 was my guess and that’s what he got but as I said before should have been more and would have been if not him playing for a marquee AFL club.
This competition stinks of corruption.

 

[GremioPower]

Jonas's hit was not worse?!

The speed of the collision was slower, to begin with.

 

[jdeezy]

Wasn't Jonas' initially 5 weeks but they had that stupid penalty thing where if you didn't accept it straight away for the 'early plea' you had an extra week added to it or have I got that confused?

They're pretty on par, aside from the actual injury itself, and I'm personally against judging based on the injury caused because it opens pandoras box.

 

[Magus]

Why is Jordan Lewis passing any sort of judgement on Jeremy Cameron? His whack on Goldstein was at least twice as bad. Pretty much tried to kill him.

Because Jordan Lewis is scum.

 

[manureid]

Jonas had time to pull out of the contest. Cameron jumped, was pushed at the same time and tried to protect his head when he realised the contest was coming, ended up elbowing someone with raised arm while looking away (protecting his own head)

Jonas hit was ridiculously late.

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You need to put your goggles on m8. He looks at him and raise his elbow. You dont need to protect yourself with your elbow extended. Also the push was light at best as the guys elbow does not even extend to a full push. Was never protecting his own head like that. Wanted to inflict damage and did.

 

[Magus]

Jonas hit was ridiculously late.

Define ridiculously, because I've watched both instances and I'm not seeing a huge difference in the timeframe.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

I think 5 weeks was the best result Cameron would have hoped for. Should have been a minimum 6 week ban given his previous record & the seriousness of Andrews injury.

 

[raman]

How was Jonas worse?

No precedents, remember!

Never mind that precedent is the core agent of fairness in common law, this is the AFL!

 

[The Rubber Man]

You need to put your goggles on m8. He looks at him and raise his elbow. You dont need to protect yourself with your elbow extended. Also the push was light at best as the guys elbow does not even extend to a full push. Was never protecting his own head like that. Wanted to inflict damage and did.

If you're about to go flying into someone at that speed you lift your arm to protect yourself.
Push was definitely there. Running full speed and then being pushed while jumping does that to you.

Shit act. Deserved 5, he should of kept him arm down but its a split second reflex.

Jonas act was worse. He had time.

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[manureid]

If you're about to go flying into someone at that speed you lift your arm to protect yourself.
Push was definitely there. Running full speed and then being pushed while jumping does that to you.

Shit act. Deserved 5, he should of kept him arm down but its a split second reflex.

Jonas act was worse. He had time.

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You are wrong on most counts here, but that is okay.

 

[Buget]

Question... I didn’t think that they allowed precedence in the tribunal. So why did they review previous incidents? (Defence raised Tippett hit on Grimes).

Secondly, how many weeks did Thomas get for his hit on Selwood? I’m pretty sure he go done with rough conduct, and picked up an extra week for striking afterwords, but this is a worse look than the Thomas hit. I thought it was a reasonable comparison noting the anti-head contact angle the AFL takes.

(Just got home from work, catching up)

 

[The Rubber Man]

You are wrong on most counts here, but that is okay.

Solid rebuttal

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[LFC2010]

Pleaded guilty to careless, not to intentional IIRC.

Has apologised to his victim.

Pleading guilty to *intentionally* causing that sort of injury when you don’t believe it... bloody big step.

No idea how they grade impact but that belongs in a higher grade than Jonas’s brain snap on Gaff.


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he apologized privately, and via Text... Took the piss weak option like he did when he hit Andrews.

 

[GremioPower]

Question... I didn’t think that they allowed precedence in the tribunal. So why did they review previous incidents? (Defence raised Tippett hit on Grimes).

Secondly, how many weeks did Thomas get for his hit on Selwood? I’m pretty sure he go done with rough conduct, and picked up an extra week for striking afterwords, but this is a worse look than the Thomas hit. I thought it was a reasonable comparison noting the anti-head contact angle the AFL takes.

(Just got home from work, catching up)

Since Thomas' hit was fair, I am not sure how the comparison would work here.

 

[edgie]

5 is the minimum. I'll accept it but would've preferred more.

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[FishingRick04]

I just can’t see how one can say Jonas was worse unless trolling fans.

Timing was similar, injury less! Crazy I’m annoyed

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

I just can’t see how one can say Jonas was worse unless trolling fans.

Timing was similar, injury less! Crazy I’m annoyed

Jonas isn't a sexy forward for an AFL House experiment that's the difference

If Jonas committed this I reckon we'd be looking at 8

 

[mic59]

He got FIVE. A one week deduction for not being Jonas.

Gaff looked bad when he went off the field but he only missed one game. Andrews will miss at least two and it's still unsure when exactly he will come back.

 

[Contested Marx]

IMO they are similar acts, with subtle differences that generally cancel out in a comparison,

BUT

TJ looked worse because of that classic freeze frame image posted everywhere

JC actual outcome far far worse

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