Toast Malcolm Blight's All Time Best From 1991 Onwards.

[Betts are off]

You're memory must be fading badly, Nigel the footballer was huge for the AFC

No I remember just fine mate, I loved Nigel Smart the player. I'm just saying in a competition of Nigels best vs Brodie's Best, then i'm taking Brodie. If it was best player career's then Nigels got him too date, but its just best player, and too me Brodie is a more damaging player when he's on song the Nigel was.

You may disagree but thats my take.

 

[Betts are off]

Maybe if Smith comes back and plays to his dominating best, at the end of his career you could have a debate

But at the moment, Smart is far far ahead of Smith.

Smart in his day was sublime.

I know what you're saying and respect that, but I think you have to separate the career from the player sometimes with these hypotheticals. The stipulation isn't All time best Career's since 1991. Its just Alltime best since 1991.

And as good as Smart was over his career, I think Smith is much more damaging half back flanker and hence gets the nod for me.

 

[Bicks]

I know what you're saying and respect that, but I think you have to separate the career from the player sometimes with these hypotheticals. The stipulation isn't All time best Career's since 1991. Its just Alltime best since 1991.

And as good as Smart was over his career, I think Smith is much more damaging half back flanker and hence gets the nod for me.

I"ll give you a tip Smart played on far more formidable opponents than Brodie ever has and is ever likely to...

 

[Samcro24]

Smart over Smith & it's not close.

 

[Betts are off]

I"ll give you a tip Smart played on far formidable opponents than Brodie ever has and is ever likely to...

You got me there, but then why is he listed as a half back flank? Shouldn't he be put up against the KPD's? I guess i'm asking positionally who do you think specifically plays the HBF role better? I mean realistically Mcleod played it better then both of them if we are going to be honest about it.

So with that in mind maybe the better team would be McLeod on the HBF, Danger on the ball and Walker on the flank (or Carey if we are going by their career achievements).

 

[SydCrow]

is McGuiness hiding in the forward pocket?

 

[Bicks]

is McGuiness hiding in the forward pocket?

 

[Betts are off]

is McGuiness hiding in the forward pocket?

My guess is Tony McGuinness is anywhere the Hells Angels are not!

 

[Bicks]

You got me there, but then why is he listed as a half back flank? Shouldn't he be put up against the KPD's? I guess i'm asking positionally who do you think specifically plays the HBF role better? I mean realistically Mcleod played it better then both of them if we are going to be honest about it.

So with that in mind maybe the better team would be McLeod on the HBF, Danger on the ball and Walker on the flank (or Carey if we are going by their career achievements).

Nigel has something in his armoury Smith has never been great at, he could actually defend as well as he could run off his opponent and turn defence into attack in a twinkling. Smith is a very good AFC player, Nigel was a great AFC player.

 

[Betts are off]

Nigel has something in his armoury Smith has never been great at, he could actually defend as well as he could run off his opponent and turn defence into attack in a twinkling. Smith is a very good AFC player, Nigel was a great AFC player.

Personally I think you’re a bit harsh on Smith’s defensive game and slightly high on Smarts attacking game in comparison to Smiths.

But hey, let’s just chalk it down to a difference of opinion. Like I said, I like Smith as a HBF, you like Smart.

 

[Shaz2012]

Wow, no Brodie Smith love in here? If I had to take peak Brodie Smith vs Peak Nigel Smart i'd take Brodie every day of the week. No disrespect to Nigel Smart either, but in terms of impact HBFers you just don't get much better then Brodie Smith

Smart is there all day long. Ben Hart too. No questions over them for mine. I think Smith deserves to be there. The only question would be maybe he misses because he hasn't done it for long enough. But how many of our other players here are AA? Rhetorical by the way.

 

[blackadda]

Probably have Welsh or Porplyzia in the forward pocket instead of McGuiness

Or Vardy!

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[Kane McGoodwin]

Wow, no Brodie Smith love in here? If I had to take peak Brodie Smith vs Peak Nigel Smart i'd take Brodie every day of the week. No disrespect to Nigel Smart either, but in terms of impact HBFers you just don't get much better then Brodie Smith

Smart could take on anyone bar the ruckman. Took on forwards at their best like Ablett Senior, took on the best midfielders like Kouta & also played as a key forward when we needed him to.

Ie. He could play Smith's role & plenty more!

I like Smithers but Smart is on another level.

 

[crows dude]

Smarty was a gun. I was just a kid. 11 in fact in 1993 when we were crying out for a CHF. Klug was gone. Robran when playing played more along side Modra than an actual CHF. Then comes the game against Footsgray. We took a risk and sent Smarty to Centre Half Forward

Stats below. 25 touches. 10 Marks. and 2.2

And the game against Geelong. LOL. Blight sent Steve Hocking to Smart. Smarty had 3 goals in the first quarter and 5.3 for the match.

Final against Hawthorn. He dominated Jenkie. 23 touches and 4.2. I rate that 2nd half of the year the greatest of any CHF ever for the crows. Then we decided he was to important back so went and recruited McCartney who turned out to be a better defender than forward himself.

 

[Betts are off]

Smart could take on anyone bar the ruckman. Took on forwards at their best like Ablett Senior, took on the best midfielders like Kouta & also played as a key forward when we needed him to.

Ie. He could play Smith's role & plenty more!

I like Smithers but Smart is on another level.

Alright I just want to really specify that I am not hating on Smart in any way. I loved the guy as a player and always will. And totally agree he could take all comers big and small and totally is deserved on a spot here. My only quarry is the position he's chosen in, HBF. To me that position for the last 15 years is as much about attack as it is about defense. And Smith to me is the prototypical attacking HBF, which is what I look for and why I would lean that way. I agree he's not as strong as Smart in the defensive side, but I don't rate that side of his game that poorly either.

Now maybe I should have left Smart out of it altogether, arguments could be made for Smith's value vs guys like Laird or one of the guys on the pine! But to me Smithers is stiff not being mentioned because behind McLeod I rate him as our best pure HBFer.

 

[Sanders]

No I remember just fine mate, I loved Nigel Smart the player. I'm just saying in a competition of Nigels best vs Brodie's Best, then i'm taking Brodie. If it was best player career's then Nigels got him too date, but its just best player, and too me Brodie is a more damaging player when he's on song the Nigel was.

You may disagree but thats my take.

That’s just silly

Smith over smart is not a serious opinion

 

[John Who]

Robran was a prelim specialist. Was fairly quiet on the big stage if I recall.

Agreed he didn't play his best on GF days, but his Finals games overall were generally consistent, and one game I remember against the Dogs he kicked around 6 goals, kicking some huge bombs!

See, I feel Stiffy in the backline is more akin to Laird. Wonder if Laird in the forward could be like Stiffy...

Laird was actually the guy that pushed Stiffy out of his spot. Didn't really see it at the time, but they're very much a similar type of footballer - quick and aggressive, can defend and attack. I think they're very handy players to have in any team, any era.

The only fail from Malcolm Blight's list I can see is T McGuinness in small forward role. Peter Vardy hands down was way better in that spot. Hell, anyone of Bond, Porplyzia, or Cameron would be better options!

 

[Bovo]

I"ll give you a tip Smart played on far formidable opponents than Brodie ever has and is ever likely to...

I hate these types of comparisons as it not just player comparisons it is the game difference also. Nigel Smart in today’s game would be totally different. It is like plugger....games goal record....but he would not even get a look in, in the modern game, which is sad really.

But I would take Smart over Smith at this point in time. They definitely have different weapons!

 

[Bicks]

I hate these types of comparisons as it not just player comparisons it is the game difference also. Nigel Smart in today’s game would be totally different. It is like plugger....games goal record....but he would not even get a look in, in the modern game, which is sad really.

But I would take Smart over Smith at this point in time. They definitely have different weapons!

Disagree, Nigel's game style would absolutely stand up in today's game. And I would have said 'more' weapons in Nigel's case not different weapons.

 

[Bovo]

Disagree, Nigel's game style would absolutely stand up in today's game. And I would have said 'more' weapons in Nigel's case not different weapons.

He was definitely special!

 

[Godallblighty]

Not sure I'd have Sloane in the starting 18.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/a75b862e37c741572a527baa1f8f3912
Not a bad line up - Walker in for Robran for mine

ALL-TIME CROWS
Malcolm Blight’s best Crows line-up from 1991.

B: n smart, B. Rutten, B. Hart

HB: doughty, n bock p caven

C: s tregenza, M. Ricciuto, g anderson

HF: D. Jarman, M. Robran, P. Dangerfield

F: E. Betts, A. Modra, t walker

1R: S. Rehn, A. McLeod, a jarman

Int: S. Thompson, G. Johncock,m bickley. Pittman

Better

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

So he picks Modra now ??? I bet that makes Mods feel better ....

The Messiah gives and the messiah takes away

 

[Bicks]

Better

WORSE

 

[Sanders]

The Messiah gives and the messiah takes away

Are you Little Graham?