Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[go you pups]

Oppps was there a rule that’s said we can’t??

Chief + admins censored the word for the lulz for like a week or two

Was censored to the North Melbourne Football Club

 

[lachy]

Norf actually landed a four players so we ain’t Norf lol

The Norf bashing in here is hilarious when they are smashing us at present.
4 walk up starts into their best 22

To whose best 22. Polec is ok at around $450k per year but who else have they picked up better than our best 22. In fact in our best 22 who does Polec replace?

 

[Mattdougie]

Chief + admins censored the word for the lulz for like a week or two

Was censored to the North Melbourne Football Club

Oops my apologies I was not aware of such

 

[Mattdougie]

To whose best 22. Polec is ok at around $450k per year but who else have they picked up better than our best 22. In fact in our best 22 who does Polec replace?

Oh please

Polec walks into our best 22 mate

We did finish 13th You realise?

 

[lachy]

I didn’t say our 22 I said theirs

Polec Hall Pittard Tyson all into their best 22. And they would ALL be in our best 22.

Over paid or not they are making things happen so at least they are trying right or wrong.

Then how are they smashing it and we are not? They are getting in players to be as good as our best 22 possibly which is according to yourself a bottom 4 list?

 

[lachy]

Oh please

Polec walks into our best 22 mate

We did finish 13th You realise?

Who does he replace on our best 22 when we have players available. Yeah we finnished 13th but did not exactly have a good injury run

 

[Mattdougie]

Then how are they smashing it and we are not? They are getting in players to be as good as our best 22 possibly which is according to yourself a bottom 4 list?

They haven’t lost 6 players and have bought 4 in. So far their list is better than it started

We have lost players and acquired ONE. Our list is worst than it started.

 

[lachy]

They haven’t lost 6 players and have bought 4 in. So far their list is better than it started

We have lost players and acquired ONE. Our list is worst than it started.

But going by your argument didn't they finnish above us so shouldn't they be putting together a bettet list than our best 22 for them to be smashing it?

 

[Mattdougie]

Who does he replace on our best 22 when we have players available. Yeah we finnished 13th but did not exactly have a good injury run

I’m not going to argue with you coz you clearly over rate our list. Even with a full list Polec would be in our best 22.

Polec plays before Dickson, Jong, Honey, Smith, Greene, Lipinski, Lynch, Williams to start and I can’t be bothered rolling over our full list to put eveyone down.

 

[Mattdougie]

But going by your argument didn't they finnish above us so shouldn't they be putting together a bettet list than our best 22 for them to be smashing it?

Dear god in heaven

 

[vicparksfinest]

G'day guys just jumpin in here to get your thoughts on Roughead, been linked to pies as a "done deal", what can we expect, where's he at ect
Remember him clear as day through 2016and know he's been your ruck but word is we are getting him as a KPD.
Cheers lads

 

[Mofra]

We have to pay someone and May just wants out of the Suns he is gettable for cheaper than normal I would expect.

Adding someone like that with our age profile cannot be seen as a negative unless as you say he wants too much

I think we could accommodate him under the cap considering we could cover Wingard and courted Hurley quite heavily. It's draft cost which is a huge factor considering Melbourne will have pick 5 on the table and I assume a later future pick (GCS are on record as wanting future picks too).

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Definitely ephemeral, as in lasting a short time, Mr GDB. We are all in this place for a short time... relatively.
Anyway, how about that trade period, hey? Looks like Broomhead and Dunn are off the market!

Oracle, it does not surprise me that you knew this...

Do you also collect ephemera?

 

[Mattdougie]

G'day guys just jumpin in here to get your thoughts on Roughead, been linked to pies as a "done deal", what can we expect, where's he at ect
Remember him clear as day through 2016and know he's been your ruck but word is we are getting him as a KPD.
Cheers lads

He is broken so good luck

Unfortunately can’t get for so I doubt he helps and he isn’t a back mans a$$so good luck with that.

Pinch hitter for you guys but I’d love to be proven wrong we all love Rough

 

[lachy]

They haven’t lost 6 players and have bought 4 in. So far their list is better than it started

We have lost players and acquired ONE. Our list is worst than it started.

And respect your call about our list being worst than it started but entirely disagree.
We have lost not one consistently good player over the course of 2 years nor have we added any. Draft in one of a Richards or Naughton or one of the experienced players does a Crozier and we have improved on top of natural imrprovement in the younger players who played this season

 

[Testekill]

Lel

Do tell

We get an alert whenever there's someone with the same IP address making accounts.

 

[Mattdougie]

And respect your call about our list being worst than it started but entirely disagree.
We have lost not one consistently good player over the course of 2 years nor have we added any. Draft in one of a Richards or Naughton or one of the experienced players does a Crozier and we have improved on top of natural imrprovement in the younger players who played this season

How anyone can not consider our list worse than two weeks ago is beyond baffling.

Dahl is a better footballer than Jong and Honey at 50%. Adams is better than Roberts or Young or Trengove.

Our list(and not all the clubs fault has gone backwards from the end of season) it may improve but as of RIGHT NOW it’s worse

 

[LittleG]

I think we could accommodate him under the cap considering we could cover Wingard and courted Hurley quite heavily. It's draft cost which is a huge factor considering Melbourne will have pick 5 on the table and I assume a later future pick (GCS are on record as wanting future picks too).

Melbourne won't have pick 5. Freo baulked at Hogans demand for 8 years and $8M.
May is now going somewhere but not for pick 5.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

If Aaron Hall is the answer we’re asking the wrong question.

 

[ringa5]

IMO l know this is not popular.But l think they were a bit hasty with Collins or Colons.
Need some sort of back up.Or do we think outside the square and put Tom Boyd into defence.Alla Chris Grant.

 

[LondonBulldog]

G'day guys just jumpin in here to get your thoughts on Roughead, been linked to pies as a "done deal", what can we expect, where's he at ect
Remember him clear as day through 2016and know he's been your ruck but word is we are getting him as a KPD.
Cheers lads

Backup at best is all you can expect from Roughead. Had a good year and finals series in 2016 apart from that is a spare parts man. Not quick enough in defence, but ok on the big gorilla types. Reasonable in the centre square taps, but can't really keep up around the ground with the best ruck men. Good mark up forward yet average kick for goal.

 

[Tommycash]

For mine, I am surprised, or at least disappointed, everyone is so upset about the quiet trade period. Let's look at some historical ones that have proved good in hindsight.

2015:

In with the new: Matt Suckling (free agent), picks 20, 21, 2 x 2016 4th round picks

Out with the old: Michael Talia, picks 11 and 69, 2016 3rd round pick

2015 was very quiet, perhaps understandably people wondered whether the internal development would be enough given we hadn't made much of trade week.

2014:

What we got: Tom Boyd (GWS), Shane Biggs, pick No.27 (free agency compensation, Shaun Higgins), pick No.39, pick No.46


What we lost: Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney, Shaun Higgins, Liam Jones, pick No.6, pick No.37 (free agency compensation, Adam Cooney)

We came 14th that year. We lost a brownlow medallist, our captain, a promising Higgins and Jones. We brought in the largely untried Boyd and Biggs. By most standards a pretty negative looking trade period, but it coincided with a big on field turn around which was widely unexpected.


I think this goes to show that those who put all their eggs in a successful trade week are ignoring other factors.

How anyone can not consider our list worse than two weeks ago is beyond baffling.

Dahl is a better footballer than Jong and Honey at 50%. Adams is better than Roberts or Young or Trengove.

Our list(and not all the clubs fault has gone backwards from the end of season) it may improve but as of RIGHT NOW it’s worse

see our trade period in 2014 above. Other circumstances at play as well of course, but I hope it can at least elicit a little bit of hope, if nothing more. This is just to point out that a list may look worse when in fact good things may come from it.

 

[Glaeken Oracle]

Oracle, it does not surprise me that you knew this...

Do you also collect ephemera?

Interesting you should ask that, Mr Back - may I call you that?

As a matter of fact, I am an avid collector of vintage football ephemera, as well as experiences, which are ephemeral in their duration and sensation, but eternal in their remembrance.

I also enjoy the ephemeral nature of posting on this board. While the posts will last as long as the digital age, their initial impact is lost once read.

May the rest of your day be splendacious!

 

[Mofra]

Melbourne won't have pick 5. Freo baulked at Hogans demand for 8 years and $8M.
May is now going somewhere but not for pick 5.

Posturing. Freo were in talks with Hogan over the weekend.
My take from the cheap seats - Freo bluffed, Melbourne know it and called them out, Brisbane will let Beams go and make a better offer to grab Neale which will start an avalanche of deals.

Statistically picks past 25 have about the same success rate as picks in the 50s so I'd hope we consider trading for mature talent with pick 27 as the Adams trade is likely to net enough points for West and with our third and fourth rounders we should be able to cover West & Khamis.

 

[TedDougChris]

IMO l know this is not popular.But l think they were a bit hasty with Collins or Colons.

Said this for a while. Keep Colons !!

I know why he was cut, but seemed a fairly low risk player to keep for another year...