Charlie Curnow just needs to clunk some marks. He legit gets his hands on everything. He doesn't have to take the spectaculars in large packs but simple marks leading up on the wing/half forward just needs to hold them. Think he is confidence player and didn't get off to a great start this game and never got going from there. If he takes some marks early in a game and gets confidence he has the potential to be anything.
Autopsy 2019 Rd 1 vs Richmond - Improved Blues go down by 33 points
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Yeah, for no particular reason I get the feeling that money talks even louder to Roos than to most others.
Regarding his apparent hatred for us, I’m old fashioned (or naive) enough to think that his childhood loyalties might count for something in his later life, even if he has an axe to grind with us from his playing and coaching days. Here he is writing about how he barracked for us as a kid, to the point of attending both our 1972 and 1973 grand finals against the Tigers - https://www.playersvoice.com.au/paul-roos-loudest-mcg-crowd-in-my-life/#GuRdqL2gD8Zu3Yj6.97 ... I guess it’s often the case that there’s nothing more vicious than an ex (I believe that Mussolini began his political life as a revolutionary socialist!).
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Charlie out of form more than anything
Ball movement was on the brink of laughable in some passages
Dow always tries to make something happen and I appreciate that - keep at it kid.
Very pleased with Weitering, Walsh, Newman, Fisher, Cunningham, Setterfield
I think we did okay a 6/10 type of performance. Richmond are clearly the better team top four and we missed Kreuzer and Docherty in a big way last night.
Missing run from defence - Garlett start running boy.
Ball movement was on the brink of laughable in some passages
Dow always tries to make something happen and I appreciate that - keep at it kid.
Very pleased with Weitering, Walsh, Newman, Fisher, Cunningham, Setterfield
I think we did okay a 6/10 type of performance. Richmond are clearly the better team top four and we missed Kreuzer and Docherty in a big way last night.
Missing run from defence - Garlett start running boy.
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FMD we played the premiers of 2017 and the best team of 2018 -except for a poor game against the pies, they could easily have gone back to back.
Even though Lynch got some cheap goals and i didnt rate his game, he does make them stronger, and he got their hormones flowing early- just because he was their prize recruit. The tiges had a point to prove and they came out of the gate HARD, but then the wonderful thing about our youngsters, was that they absorbed the assault , then regrouped and for the next 2 quarters outplayed them. Lets not underestimate that feat. Lots to like and we will build and learn from that exciting effort.
Even though Lynch got some cheap goals and i didnt rate his game, he does make them stronger, and he got their hormones flowing early- just because he was their prize recruit. The tiges had a point to prove and they came out of the gate HARD, but then the wonderful thing about our youngsters, was that they absorbed the assault , then regrouped and for the next 2 quarters outplayed them. Lets not underestimate that feat. Lots to like and we will build and learn from that exciting effort.
This is it.
The good: we have a lot more guys who can be relied on now, guys who can be part of the future. Walsh, Setterfield, Newman, Cuningham all played well. Weitering’s confidence grew and he looked fantastic. We are getting closer to having an AFL caliber list - add Docherty (sigh) and Kreuzer and we are a 22 man team that isn’t an eyesore at least. It feels like we are watching most of the next decent Carlton team, not a bunch of temps, which is nice at least.
Also good to see a lot better play from our outside players. Walsh and Newman, but also Murphy playing off a wing. It meant we went head to head in the center against the top team in the comp with Cripps + Dow (19) Fisher (20) and rotated Cuningham (21), SPS (21) and Setterfield (21) through. All said, midfield did very nicely for such an insanely young group
We went heavily man on man at times and it worked well. Sure, some young guys got pushed off the ball by bigger bodies but you could see the talent and our fitness/running held up
The bad: a few players seem down on confidence - prticularly for round 1. Charlie Curnow and SPS examples. McGovern looked afraid of contact. McKay got better as the game went on. Garlett has absolutely no idea. And the whole team really dropped their heads when it wasn’t going well - first quarter and mid last. That’s more bottom team in round 22, not round 1.
Ugly: our setup and structure in the first quarter was hideous. In 6-6-6 your wings and how they adjust are critical. We played a first gamer and a 3rd gamer. When Houli started on the back of the square and ran into defence to give an extra man we didn’t pick this up, and just hacked the ball forward and this killed us in q1 - it was only after quarter time that we adjusted and went sideways to Walsh who had an entire half the ground to himself. We also started McKay on the bench, then brought him straight on into the ruck - it was the 17 minute mark before he set foot inside 50, which was bizarre. Had some issues with zone placement too - new rules mean either setting the zone further back, or playing much looser. Got some of this sorted, particularly the defensive side but it was too late.
Also good to see a lot better play from our outside players. Walsh and Newman, but also Murphy playing off a wing. It meant we went head to head in the center against the top team in the comp with Cripps + Dow (19) Fisher (20) and rotated Cuningham (21), SPS (21) and Setterfield (21) through. All said, midfield did very nicely for such an insanely young group
We went heavily man on man at times and it worked well. Sure, some young guys got pushed off the ball by bigger bodies but you could see the talent and our fitness/running held up
The bad: a few players seem down on confidence - prticularly for round 1. Charlie Curnow and SPS examples. McGovern looked afraid of contact. McKay got better as the game went on. Garlett has absolutely no idea. And the whole team really dropped their heads when it wasn’t going well - first quarter and mid last. That’s more bottom team in round 22, not round 1.
Ugly: our setup and structure in the first quarter was hideous. In 6-6-6 your wings and how they adjust are critical. We played a first gamer and a 3rd gamer. When Houli started on the back of the square and ran into defence to give an extra man we didn’t pick this up, and just hacked the ball forward and this killed us in q1 - it was only after quarter time that we adjusted and went sideways to Walsh who had an entire half the ground to himself. We also started McKay on the bench, then brought him straight on into the ruck - it was the 17 minute mark before he set foot inside 50, which was bizarre. Had some issues with zone placement too - new rules mean either setting the zone further back, or playing much looser. Got some of this sorted, particularly the defensive side but it was too late.
Having said that, can’t remember too many times in the last 5 years we’ve won the uncontested possession count and controlling the ball for longer periods
That was a positive to me, we are spreading much better.
But the forwards need to work so much harder
Trying to be positive after a 6 goal loss, there were some passages of play where our kicking made us look like a completely different side, 30 to 40 metre passes opening up the corridor then for periods where Richmond were on top we went into our shell and kicked down the line.
The side is young we should focus on taking the game on for four quarters, it might get ugly some weeks but the foot skills are there to do it, still just not fit enough to do it a whole match.
The side is young we should focus on taking the game on for four quarters, it might get ugly some weeks but the foot skills are there to do it, still just not fit enough to do it a whole match.
We should all set this as our screensaver. We won’t be good until most of our players are older than 25
Didn’t turn up for the start of the game, played 2 good quarters and then ran out of steam.
Walsh, Cripps, Newman were fantastic. Dow, Fischer and Cuningham made some dumb decisions but there were promising signs.
C Curnow had a mare, Garlett and Phillips are not good enough. Thought Nankervis was best on ground, walked in 3 goals and slaughtered Phillips.
Still a chance against Port next week.
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Walsh, Cripps, Newman were fantastic. Dow, Fischer and Cuningham made some dumb decisions but there were promising signs.
C Curnow had a mare, Garlett and Phillips are not good enough. Thought Nankervis was best on ground, walked in 3 goals and slaughtered Phillips.
Still a chance against Port next week.
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This bears repeating..........
A couple of weeks back but you managed to keep it to yourself till after the match. Yeah right.
All Jack’s media mates and ex FWD’s will squeal about it for the whole weekend.
Hey presto - come Monday “2 weeks”.
Not too many ex DEF’s have roles in the media - I.e Fox pre game McGuire plus Little dick Reiwoldt(NR cousin)Lyon/Brown. Not that they would be biased in any way......
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Disagree. I watched Phillips closely and his work around the stoppages with the mids was very good. Did his role. First game in a long while and will get better and better
I saw lots of improvement from last year and it’s only round one. Playing the best side in the comp. we will learn so much.
Ed should be in the midfield make no mistake, but he isn't deserving of the hate he is getting. Had to have had the most assistants on the field and would have to be up there with pressure acts. Yes fumbled but as did everyone else, it was contagious tonight. The hate for Ed should be directed at the coaching panel for playing him in the fwd line. Only clear drop for next week is Phillip for me.
Always you people that have your lives dependent on the result come here and bash this player or that. Its actually pretty childish.
Grow up and think a bit harder.
Its not nice to lose, never is. But worse than losing is the drivel that gets posted afterwards.
Grow up and think a bit harder.
Its not nice to lose, never is. But worse than losing is the drivel that gets posted afterwards.
One was when McKay was rucking, second was from a cheap turnover and Nank was behind play. Not a star but nowhere near as bad as people made out
He did play his role Soapy but with such a young midfield we need a ruckman that can do more than just try to get the hitouts. We would have been better off with Cas in the ruck tonight playing a Mumford style basher and crasher in the middle.
Still very young, lots of new players. 2019 is going to be full of ups and downs but a lot to like
I thought our defence started to show some continuity. Won’t get much tougher than last night. Weitering was very good
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Really enjoyed Weiterings game, much stronger now and able to body players, even threw some love Lynches way early with a big bump, love the confidence it has afforded him.
Dow started like a house on fire, faded a little but found enough of it. Look out once he has completely grown into his body.
Walsh was fantastic, already making others arpund him better, so wrapped we kept pick 1.
Setterfield has a lot of presence, can't wait to see him play with a fully mature and fit body with 50 games in him. Will be a big brownlow vote poller.
Harry looked threatening the more the game went on, good signs.
Crippa, a slight off night, by his standards (a few fumbles) but overall a solid game and at least a vote.
Fasolo, under done.
Gartlett, soft.
Murphy, just as soft, maybe softer.
Gov, better as game wore on, can't wait to see him fit.
Charlie, struggling with expectations. Will come good without a doubt.
Gibbons, quite but showed good smarts and will only get better with more exposure at this level.
Fish, solid game, loved his tackles on dusty (who is struggling with his dads situation as it has truly sunk in and would be missing him heaps understandably).
Ed, unobtrusive game but had the most score involvements.
Phillips, just good to see him fit, plays again next week.
Newman, solid debut and a fantastic pick up. A gem of a goal when we needed one. Good players do those things.
Plow, solid, mister consistency.
Cunners, really looks to be playing with a lot of confidence, great to see, might just make it after all.
Jones, didn't stand out bit that's not a bad thing.
Simpson, god bless him.
SPS, not his best night, some good things, especially his delivery.
Thomas, was solid, his experience is a bonus to our side.
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Dow started like a house on fire, faded a little but found enough of it. Look out once he has completely grown into his body.
Walsh was fantastic, already making others arpund him better, so wrapped we kept pick 1.
Setterfield has a lot of presence, can't wait to see him play with a fully mature and fit body with 50 games in him. Will be a big brownlow vote poller.
Harry looked threatening the more the game went on, good signs.
Crippa, a slight off night, by his standards (a few fumbles) but overall a solid game and at least a vote.
Fasolo, under done.
Gartlett, soft.
Murphy, just as soft, maybe softer.
Gov, better as game wore on, can't wait to see him fit.
Charlie, struggling with expectations. Will come good without a doubt.
Gibbons, quite but showed good smarts and will only get better with more exposure at this level.
Fish, solid game, loved his tackles on dusty (who is struggling with his dads situation as it has truly sunk in and would be missing him heaps understandably).
Ed, unobtrusive game but had the most score involvements.
Phillips, just good to see him fit, plays again next week.
Newman, solid debut and a fantastic pick up. A gem of a goal when we needed one. Good players do those things.
Plow, solid, mister consistency.
Cunners, really looks to be playing with a lot of confidence, great to see, might just make it after all.
Jones, didn't stand out bit that's not a bad thing.
Simpson, god bless him.
SPS, not his best night, some good things, especially his delivery.
Thomas, was solid, his experience is a bonus to our side.
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Very good observation
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