Opinion Who should be the North coach?

[ferball]

I fear that the board will appoint someone simply because they are a safe option. This is the mindset that landed us where we are right now.

I want to see a core of experienced football minds assembled with the sole mission of appointing their best option for who they believe will deliver a premiership.

That would be nice.

We need a coach with self discipline who will expect the highest levels of it from his players and one who values players who can run from a contest and open the play up and players who can spread to provide options and cover opposition.

I'm expecting that skills will be dealt with as part of the whole self discipline thing. IE

MAKE THE PLAYERS DO PUSH UPS EVERY BLOODY TIME THEY MISS A TARGET OR DROP A BALL AT TRAINING FFS!!!

Fine them if you need to. $100 bucks a miss/drop into next years Good Friday kitty.

 

[muttley45]

My take on Longmires game plan/strategy etc, he has loaded up his midfield with mostly slow paced, good contested players, use plenty of handball whenever possible, and his forward line plan is get it to Buddy as much as possible, some parallels to Brad right there, the game has gone past him imo.

 

[Themanbun]

MAKE THE PLAYERS DO PUSH UPS EVERY BLOODY TIME THEY MISS A TARGET OR DROP A BALL AT TRAINING FFS!!!

Fine them if you need to. $100 bucks a miss/drop into next years Good Friday kitty.

While I don't disagree re: self discipline, I don't think this kind of thing works. It's only ever worked to worsen the skills and make conservative the decision making of teams I've coached (in another sport, albeit).

Generally find that players respond better when put in match pressure type simulations but encouraged to *try something* and see exactly the extent of their skills. If players constantly play within themselves through fear of making a mistake, they never expand their skillset, and often become worse.

 

[Tectonic]

What about Jade Rawlings?

 

[The Nostradamus]

What about John barker?

 

[King Corey]

While I don't disagree re: self discipline, I don't think this kind of thing works. It's only ever worked to worsen the skills and make conservative the decision making of teams I've coached (in another sport, albeit).

Generally find that players respond better when put in match pressure type simulations but encouraged to *try something* and see exactly the extent of their skills. If players constantly play within themselves through fear of making a mistake, they never expand their skillset, and often become worse.

Blight used to drag players for not having a shot at goal, reasoning they were just passing the buck if they didn't take the risk themselves.

 

[chrissy]

Brad Scott has never felt quite right , from the very beginning he has been anti what the club has always stood for and poo pooed our spirit . He has never acknowledged the North fans exist , he dismisses public sentiment , never turns to the crowd after the the game and acknowledges us . The win against Adelaide was a bandaid over the truth , we have players just content to be on a AFL list .

 

[King Corey]

What about Jade Rawlings?

Pass.

Richmond assistant 2007-9 including senior coach during 2009.
Brisbane assistant 2010-11.
Melbourne assistant 2012+.

That's 12 years of coaching for one finals series.

I'd extend Brad until 2022 if that was the only other choice.

 

[King Corey]

What about John barker?

Uninspiring coaching CV. What catches your eye?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Uninspiring coaching CV. What catches your eye?

I liked him when he took over as caretaker coach and think was stiff that Bolton got the job over him

 

[Grogg]

What about Jade Rawlings?

Possibly, if you substitute Brady for Jade.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-coaching-options.1214903/page-4#post-60126884

Edit: Moved from coaching to list manager at West Coast, so that probably rules him out. Just ignore my whole post.

 

[King Corey]

Definitely.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-coaching-options.1214903/page-4#post-60126884

Brady and Jade very different coaching CVs.

 

[Grogg]

Brady and Jade very different coaching CVs.

Yep.

 

[ferball]

Blight used to drag players for not having a shot at goal, reasoning they were just passing the buck if they didn't take the risk themselves.

Listening to him right now actually - thanks GR.

 

[ferball]

While I don't disagree re: self discipline, I don't think this kind of thing works. It's only ever worked to worsen the skills and make conservative the decision making of teams I've coached (in another sport, albeit).

Generally find that players respond better when put in match pressure type simulations but encouraged to *try something* and see exactly the extent of their skills. If players constantly play within themselves through fear of making a mistake, they never expand their skillset, and often become worse.

I played at Nimbin for a while. We had about 10 players who knew the game and a bunch who didn't - many who couldn't kick or handball.

There was a time early in playing there where a bunch of good players turned up and ... well its Nimbin. There was a bong in the change room ffs. (Tho that isn't unusual in country footy teams from what i've heard.) People didn't take things seriously. After a while this got annoying and a bunch of us spontaneously started making ourselves do push ups when we ****ed up. Miss a target, run flat out to the fall of the ball get it to the target and drop for 5 or 10 at the end of the line. I don't even know who started it. It might have actually been me. (Or someone else, I honestly couldn't say. But if someone else did it once and I saw them I would have copied them immediately.)

That year we went from having won one game (in r1 against a brand new team from a RL town and one the previous year) to being undefeated all the way to the GF when a bunch of bathwater drinking idiots went out to a doof the night before the game cos we hadn't lost a game for months and regularly flogged everyone in the comp. Naturally we were 8 goals down at half time and lost by about 3.

None the less when a bunch of us started setting an example at training and not accepting shit standards from ourselves we turned that side around. We didn't even have a full side of AFL players - league and soccer players made up about half the side. And our ruckman was well under 6 2 and the tallest bloke in the side.

 

[King Corey]

Brad Scott has never felt quite right , from the very beginning he has been anti what the club has always stood for and poo pooed our spirit . He has never acknowledged the North fans exist , he dismisses public sentiment , never turns to the crowd after the the game and acknowledges us . The win against Adelaide was a bandaid over the truth , we have players just content to be on a AFL list .

I'm far from a fan of his legacy but he's ranged from very poor to very good during his tenure. He's a decent guy but certainly a player's coach well ahead of a club's coach or even a fan's coach.

Would've finished the relationship after the Collingwood loss in 2015 or at the end of 2016 had it been my decision. Little ground has been made as a list since those points IMO and I'm aware we had the much romanticised "near miss" in the 2015 PF.

 

[Themanbun]

I played at Nimbin for a while. We had about 10 players who knew the game and a bunch who didn't - many who couldn't kick or handball.

There was a time early in playing there where a bunch of good players turned up and ... well its Nimbin. There was a bong in the change room ffs. (Tho that isn't unusual in country footy teams from what i've heard.) People didn't take things seriously. After a while this got annoying and a bunch of us spontaneously started making ourselves do push ups when we ****** up. Miss a target, run flat out to the fall of the ball get it to the target and drop for 5 or 10 at the end of the line. I don't even know who started it. It might have actually been me. (Or someone else, I honestly couldn't say. But if someone else did it once and I saw them I would have copied them immediately.)

That year we went from having won one game (in r1 against a brand new team from a RL town and one the previous year) to being undefeated all the way to the GF when a bunch of bathwater drinking idiots went out to a doof the night before the game cos we hadn't lost a game for months and regularly flogged everyone in the comp. Naturally we were 8 goals down at half time and lost by about 3.

None the less when a bunch of us started setting an example at training and not accepting shit standards from ourselves we turned that side around. We didn't even have a full side of AFL players - league and soccer players made up about half the side. And our ruckman was well under 6 2 and the tallest bloke in the side.

With all due respect, I think our boys are training a bit harder than Nimbin.

You can enforce standards of intensity without unduly punishing people for making mistakes which were unintended.

What happened with you blokes was that you collectively decided to up the intensity, and the push ups were means for doing that (in the absence of greater structure). That doesn't mean that it's the way to go when trying to up-skill a team.

I've seen it, when enforced by an 'enforcer/publisher's coach archetype, have the direct opposite effect across numerous sports.

I'd much prefer that when a mistake is made or they haven't hit the skill standard they'd like if they were encouraged to just keep kicking and trying things until they did hit an acceptable standard and work through it.

I honestly don't think a guy coming in breathing fire and brimstone and handing out punishments for genuine errors (rather than lack of intensity) is going to do our boys any good.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Swans poster on the Scandals and Rumours board suggesting Horse to coach next year.

Wishful thinking from Swans fans, who want him gone.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Uber Roo]

Rate him

Did pretty well at Adelaide and is now at the pies having done a year with the ais

Has a good cv

The only thing Sanderson has done is score a cracker Czech wife , great man


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[Billy Not Really]

I have no earthly clue why anyone would want Horse back.

You'd really have to be hypnotised by the mediocrity of ourselves to think Horse is a significant upgrade of a coach that'd take us to a premiership.

We can't keep looking so far in the past for coaches, I'm all for Pagan/Blight coming back to assist in mentor role or overseer role similar to Carlton but we need a coach thats ahead of the game.

 

[King Corey]

I have no earthly clue why anyone would want Horse back.

You'd really have to be hypnotised by the mediocrity of ourselves to think Horse is a significant upgrade of a coach that'd take us to a premiership.

We can't keep looking so far in the past for coaches, I'm all for Pagan/Blight coming back to assist in mentor role or overseer role similar to Carlton but we need a coach thats ahead of the game.

I'm not convinced on him either but the bloke isn't even 50 and has the following CV:

• Premiership player
• Premiership assistant coach
• Premiership senior coach
• 2x grand final coach
• 7x consecutive finals series under his senior coaching

He clearly has some idea how to get a side into contention and win the whole thing.

 

[spurs]

I'm not convinced on him either but the bloke isn't even 50 and has the following CV:

• Premiership player
• Premiership assistant coach
• Premiership senior coach
• 2x grand final coach
• 7x consecutive finals series under his senior coaching

He clearly has some idea how to get a side into contention and win the whole thing.

COLA

 

[spurs]

I know he’s contracted but let’s throw $2m a year over 10 years to Clarko. Fu$k paying for Josh Kelly,Dusty or Gaff pay all the money we have to Clarko and make it a deal he can’t refuse. Then the players will want to come to us.

 

[Mordecai]

If we coach swap with the Swans it wouldn't surprise me if Brad did very well....