Bluemour Discussion Thread XVII - Coniglio means Rabbit in Italian!

[AndyWalkersGirl]

I’d like to know more about the Daisy rumours too

 

[bluemahogany]

Can anyone confirm that is was Thomas who stood up for the playing group against Bolton?
This was apparently a couple of days before his indiscretion.

We all want the CFC to do well and SOS's work should now start yielding rewards, as it really can't go any other way but to suggest that this is now the new dawn of the club........Don't we do this year after year?
We loved Bolton when he was appointed too and made all sorts of excuses for him, because we wanted him to do well and we were personally invested.
The truth got lost amongst all that and we sadly still have some suggesting that if it wasn't for Bolton........This is just not true.

What were the circumstances here, was Bolton giving the team a spray?

 

[HARKER]

I Would love to know more about the Thomas standing up to Bolton business.

Heard from a second (maybe third or fourth) hand source that Thomas confronted Bolton to express his disapproval of his ways.
It was inferred that he took the heat from Cripps and Docherty and took the punch in the mouth for the playing group.

It was also inferred that Bolton wasn't liked anywhere near as much by many, as was being portrayed.
He didn't lose all the players but it did come to a head when the players had their 'private' meeting.

Like I said, this is only the rumour I heard weeks ago and not calling it out as fact, but someone may verify.

Would also be good to hear from Barass as to who Judd wanted for the coaching job. We can talk about that now, cant we?

 

[MrJimmy]

Okay guys, its been a big day for everyone with a lot of excitement and very few Cogs rumours. Time to take a deep breath and relax.... remember when the Teague Train came in. Good times

 

[KohPhi]

Spread love guys!*



*or just utilise the ignore function

I love you Matty..

 

[LanceRomance]

Heard from a second (maybe third or fourth) hand source that Thomas confronted Bolton to express his disapproval of his ways.
It was inferred that he took the heat from Cripps and Docherty and took the punch in the mouth for the playing group.

It was also inferred that Bolton wasn't liked anywhere near as much by many, as was being portrayed.
He didn't lose all the players but it did come to a head when the players had their 'private' meeting.

Like I said, this is only the rumour I heard weeks ago and not calling it out as fact, but someone may verify.

Would also be good to hear from Barass as to who Judd wanted for the coaching job. We can talk about that now, cant we?

I reckon the private meeting was exactly what you are inferring. Might have to wait a while to hear from a player about it though.

 

[HARKER]

I'm usually one of the more optimistic, glass half full ones, but I have to admit.there is a certain air of certainty being splashed about that makes me a little uncomfortable.

I'm also a realist and know this AFL stuff is a tough gig and absolutely nothing is certain. I'm bullish and excited about our prospects, but we have been here before.

Posters come here and tell us to strap ourselves in for a wild ride, as if they have a crystal ball.
Good things will come about for our club as a matter of course, but good things will come about for other clubs also.

We're back to ground zero now and as likely as things may turn to being all be rosy from here, they can also go the other way. They can, can't they?
Good to discuss all possibilities without some posters being offended for what can be perceived as negative posting. That's ridiculous...when you think about it.

 

[bluemahogany]

Heard from a second (maybe third or fourth) hand source that Thomas confronted Bolton to express his disapproval of his ways.
It was inferred that he took the heat from Cripps and Docherty and took the punch in the mouth for the playing group.

It was also inferred that Bolton wasn't liked anywhere near as much by many, as was being portrayed.
He didn't lose all the players but it did come to a head when the players had their 'private' meeting.

Like I said, this is only the rumour I heard weeks ago and not calling it out as fact, but someone may verify.

Would also be good to hear from Barass as to who Judd wanted for the coaching job. We can talk about that now, cant we?

From pure reading of body language, it seemed like Cripps and Docherty were happy to see the back of him but still genuinely liked him. Simmo and Daisy on the other hand seemed completely done with him in every way possible. The mood change on field for Simmo from pre to post Bolton is evident enough

 

[cfc4life]

Anyway sorry about that folks. Back to football.

If this is it for Daisy I'm very sad but what a turnaround he made from first entering the club under Malthouse.

 

[ESKIE]

Posters come here and tell us to strap ourselves in for a wild ride, as if they have a crystal ball.
Good things will come about for our club as a matter of course, but good things will come about for other clubs also.

We're back to ground zero now and as likely as things may turn to being all be rosy from here, they can also go the other way. They can, can't they?
Good to discuss all possibilities without some posters being offended for what can be perceived as negative posting. That's ridiculous...when you think about it.

You posted earlier ...should now start yielding rewards, as it really can't go any other way...but now saying things could easily go the other way
I’m a bit confused which way is it?

 

[Matty411]

I love you Matty..

Right back at ya, mate. Just a lover. Can't understand how anyone could be negative on a day like this.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Jeez, if I need to waltz in ‘ere and be the voice of reason, then this place is more ****ed up than my plutonium supplier.

p.s please don’t put Harry McKay up for trade discussion or I will double my order!

Calm down everyone.....sheesh

 

[mochacinolatte]

From pure reading of body language, it seemed like Cripps and Docherty were happy to see the back of him but still genuinely liked him. Simmo and Daisy on the other hand seemed completely done with him in every way possible. The mood change on field for Simmo from pre to post Bolton is evident enough

I still maintain the opinion that Bolts lost the players leading to the Essendon game.

Like if you watch it, it was the most insipid performance cause the players just looked like they didn't want to be there and gave up.

We were 1-9 going into that game, losing that many games when we are suppose be on the rise from a 2 win game from 2018 would put a lot of doubt in the players psychy. Especially with a young group coming through, losing that many games puts a lot of doubt in their ability.

Go watch Cripps 100th game presser.

"With thought we were going to jump, didn't quite happen."

 

[Soapy V]

I’d like to know more about the Daisy rumours too

There isn’t any. He’s just not part of the future.

 

[HARKER]

You posted earlier ...should now start yielding rewards, as it really can't go any other way...but now saying things could easily go the other way
I’m a bit confused which way is it?

We can't go any other than up, given the low platform we're launching from.
It's now a matter as to how far we can jump. A middle of the road team means nothing and as good as the notion of finishing 10th may sound now, it won't be anywhere near as appealing next year, nor the one after etc.

We're on the right track but we really don't know whether we're on a better track than others and a wild ride can go both ways.....We don't need another car crash now, do we? We've had plenty of those and it's not something that we want to find as part of our DNA.

I'm optimistic but only to a point and not going to soak in any celebration just yet.

 

[Aphrodite]

10 reported posts in the space of 15 minutes.

Thread is a mess and has been cleaned up.

Enough is enough.

Play nice or don't play at all.

ZERO TOLERANCE and thread bans/infractions will be enforced if it continues!

 

[ESKIE]

We can't go any other than up given the low platform we're launching from.
It now how far we can jump. A middle of the road team means nothing and as good as the notion of finishing 10th may sound now, it won't be anywhere near as appealing next year, nor the one after etc.

We're on the right track but we really don't know whether we're on a better track than others and a wild ride can go both ways.....We don't need another car crash now, do we? We've had plenty of those and it's not something that we want to find a

i can’t see how we could possibly go backwards next year, how could we ?
A mass of injuries would be the only thing

 

[rog1995]

This comment is 100% BS. Daisy is one of the most courageous, hard-working, and disciplined players on the field. Daisy bleeds for the jumper - you can see it. If our younger players don't take notice of that, then that's on them, not Daisy.

I think calling out someone who posts an opinion with ties to the club as 100% BS is is unwarranted. All this achieves is drives people who have any insight to avoid these forums all together. I back the club to make the correct decision. If that means that Daisy doesn't get a new contract so be it. There are obviously reasons behind this decision.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Problem is that it snowballs.

One person questions in a reasonable manner.
The next adds some disbelief.
The next turns it into ridicule.
Within a few pages people are joking about "idiots" who think such and such is coming/going/happening.
Makes it hard to police, because by that stage people are responding to replies of replies to the original post.

Gbatman probably has the right of it - if anyone crosses a line and has a dip at a poster instead of just discussing the rumour itself, then they can have some time off. Start small, bigger penalties for repeat offenders.

Not sure how the forum itself works, but is there potential to "hide" posters identities within a thread? Hypothetically, if all posts in the No Discussion thread had no names attached, all anyone can do is discuss the rumour itself. Then if someone wants to put their name to a rumour, they can pop it in the Discussion thread instead.

Just agree to disagree and move on but sadly there are some posters that don't have this ability or will and debate the issue till their last breathe .
This is when it snowballs .

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I'm usually one of the more optimistic, glass half full ones, but I have to admit.there is a certain air of certainty being splashed about that makes me a little uncomfortable.

I'm also a realist and know this AFL stuff is a tough gig and absolutely nothing is certain. I'm bullish and excited about our prospects, but we have been here before.

I look at our under 23 group and think there’s about a dozen or so in what looks like a really special group but individually only 2 are performing anything close to special. About ten of that group are 4-5 year players next season I’d guess 90% of really good players are very good players in their own right by that age. (Considering our talls will be fifth and sixth year players)
This time next year everything will be so much clearer

 

[HARKER]

i can’t see how we could possibly go backwards next year

You can be going up the ladder but still going backwards in terms of positioning against other teams.
We may not reach Brisbane's current standard and others taking our route may end up doing it better.

I'm only answering your question here and not pretending to know our future......No one knows.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Reckon there's a handful of posters here who really should just put each other on ignore, but choose not to because they seemingly get more enjoyment out of starting digital fisticuffs. Gut feel is that some feel it will be an accomplishment if they're able to chase another poster they dislike away from the forum - if that is the case, I'd hope they reassess pretty ******* quickly because that's a piss-poor goal to have.

If you don't see an interaction with another poster as any chance of being "civil", either don't start it, or just put them on your list and remove them from your experience entirely.

Its a good point as far as it goes.
I don't like ignore and very rarely use it because everybody has good things to say at times. Even those that might seem to be the enemy today can be an ally the very next day and many times my opinions are altered or modified by something I didnt care to read in the first instance.
What works better than ignore is a bit of thought before hitting Post reply........

 

[ESKIE]

I’m wildly optimistic

 

[SickQwon]

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Omg this MS3 post has kept me awake at night for months. Now it all makes sense.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

was sitting right behind it........

pissing on that poor ladies shoe....