Player Watch Dayne Beams (Retired 2020)

Remove this Banner Ad

Status
Not open for further replies.
I remember watching an interview with him on Footy Classified a short time after he signed to Collingwood from Brisbane. He looked cooked then as he was just rambling on and on in the interview. I was worried about him.

IMO he won't be returning any time soon, if ever. Needs to give it up and concentrate on his health but he will probably milk his contract for all its worth.
 

Log in to remove this ad.

TheGreatGrundy said:
There is only the smallest element of sarcasm in my comment. Anything that takes the focus off himself and turns it towards success enjoyed with others is going to benefit Dayne. Removing himself from the game and the club merely allows his demons to retain full control of his life.
Click to expand...
I have a very close male friend, my best mate, who I grew up with, was my best man and who is fully aware that his depression is a mental aberration, he fully understands his own depression in a clinical sense. He is a medical specialist in the field with over 30 years experience and has helped literally hundreds of other people recover from depression....and seen more than a few succumb to it, in the form of the ultimate finality.
Yet he cannot control his own depression and I have been his "call me anytime any place" option for over 8 years now.
Even then there have been times when I only find out where he is mentally after he has told me how close he has come.

Not to put too finer point on it, but I don't have a clue what my best mate of over 40 years needs to get him right, neither does he, as a professional nor any of his professional colleagues. Not sure anyone on a forum has clue what beams needs.

If depression were an easy fix it would not be one of the most disastrous diseases of our times.
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
There is only the smallest element of sarcasm in my comment. Anything that takes the focus off himself and turns it towards success enjoyed with others is going to benefit Dayne. Removing himself from the game and the club merely allows his demons to retain full control of his life.
Click to expand...
TheGreatGrundy said:
There is only the smallest element of sarcasm in my comment. Anything that takes the focus off himself and turns it towards success enjoyed with others is going to benefit Dayne. Removing himself from the game and the club merely allows his demons to retain full control of his life.
Click to expand...
It wouldn’t surprise me if his darkest hours coincided with absences from the game. But it also wouldn't surprise me if the highs and lows and pressures of the sport were a contributing factor to his condition.

Its a really complex condition that even experts don't fully understand. Neuroscience may get us there one day, but were not there yet. Its time we all shut up and stopped prescribing remedies for a case study we know very little about. It's just a series of uninformed guesses from both sides of the argument. Dayne needs to harden up. Dayne needs love and support. Dayne needs... Dayne needs.... Dayne needs...

heck knows what Dayne needs.
 
Pie eyed said:
I have a very close male friend, my best mate, who I grew up with, was my best man and who is fully aware that his depression is a mental aberration, he fully understands his own depression in a clinical sense. He is a medical specialist in the field with over 30 years experience and has helped literally hundreds of other people recover from depression....and seen more than a few succumb to it, in the form of the ultimate finality.
Yet he cannot control his own depression and I have been his "call me anytime any place" option for over 8 years now.
Even then there have been times when I only find out where he is mentally after he has told me how close he has come.

Not to put too finer point on it, but I don't have a clue what my best mate of over 40 years needs to get him right, neither does he, as a professional nor any of his professional colleagues. Not sure anyone on a forum has clue what beams needs.

If depression were an easy fix it would not be one of the most disastrous diseases of our times.
Click to expand...
Right well if that's the case we may as well close this thread as there is no point discussing this topic further. As someone who suffers from depression, I do feel I am able to comment, though I agree there are no simple answers. Still leaves me wondering why we ever recruited the man when there were greater needs to cover, and age and health were elements working against the wisdom of the trade. In any case, as has been suggested, maybe the decision to stay away from the club was not made so much by Beams but by those who have to train and play with him on a daily basis.
 
sr36 said:
It wouldn’t surprise me if his darkest hours coincided with absences from the game. But it also wouldn't surprise me if the highs and lows and pressures of the sport were a contributing factor to his condition.

Its a really complex condition that even experts don't fully understand. Neuroscience may get us there one day, but were not there yet. Its time we all shut up and stopped prescribing remedies for a case study we know very little about. It's just a series of uninformed guesses from both sides of the argument. Dayne needs to harden up. Dayne needs love and support. Dayne needs... Dayne needs.... Dayne needs...

fu** knows what Dayne needs.
Click to expand...
If its time we all shut up, then why are you posting? Can we now expect a series of like posts all recommending the maintenance of silence on the subject? And maybe it's not just about what Dayne needs but rather what his teammates want. Who knows?
 
Jake Niall's article in the Age at least give us some comfort that he's only on modest coin for a player of his CV so at the very least he isn't a salary cap drain as such.
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
If its time we all shut up, then why are you posting? Can we now expect a series of like posts all recommending the maintenance of silence on the subject? And maybe it's not just about what Dayne needs but rather what his teammates want. Who knows?
Click to expand...
I'm happy for discussion concerning Dayne Beams. It's an interesting topic. I was just expressing my annoyance regarding all the prescriptions from people who don't know the situation well enough to make a prescription.
 
JB1975 said:
I'm not sure it's much of a revelation to say that the sufferer of depression needs to do the heavy lifting in dealing with it, and few would disagree with that. But for some reason you don't seem to credit Dayne with trying to work through his own issues. Maybe he hasn't yet attained bliss, and maybe he isn't dealing with things in a way which meets your approval, but to my mind it seems that he is indeed trying to find a way through the tunnel. Do you have evidence to suggest otherwise?
Click to expand...
Just read his social media sunshine, that tells you all you need to know about his preparedness to help himself.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

jonbe54 said:
Just read his social media sunshine, that tells you all you need to know about his preparedness to help himself.
Click to expand...

Well thanks for the response, guv. I'm not sure that Dayne's social media will give me a thorough view of his approach to mental health at all, but your reply gives me an accurate picture of the half-arsed way in which you form your opinions of other people.
 
Jen2310 said:
Good to see there are people who are mates with Dayne and see him constantly, and so know what he is like as a person. :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
Yeah Jen?

I'm not his mate but I know about him as a person.

By your actions will you be known.

Collingwood did everything they could to help him when his dad got gravely ill, there are two franchises up there almost equidistant realistically from his dad's struggles. One offered fair trade, which he spurned. The other offered nothing but crap - that same club incidentally he was proven to have been talking to halfway through the season behind the clubs back - guess which one he chose.

And why???

Because he had the shits over his rat pack mates being pushed out and he wanted to punish Collingwood by putting them over the barrel.

His departure from Brisbane was almost a carbon copy of his leaving us holding the bag.

Now he's back and guess what?

Here we go again.

A spiteful, selfish and vindictive person PROVEN by his own actions.

A plausible liar and a manipulative sh@T.

Having experienced the horrors of the dark tunnel myself I have deep sympathy for genuine sufferers and would lend a helping hand to any friend or relative suffering from its horrors.

Beams however is a proven liar and manipulator - so no, until he starts to grow up and show a care for anyone beyond himself.

No a thousand times no.
 
JB1975 said:
Well thanks for the response, guv. I'm not sure that Dayne's social media will give me a thorough view of his approach to mental health at all, but your reply gives me an accurate picture of the half-arsed way in which you form your opinions of other people.
Click to expand...
Good for you JB keep that head buried in the sand nice and deep lest you have to adjust your beliefs.

Fkin lol.
 
jonbe54 said:
Yeah Jen?

I'm not his mate but I know about him as a person.

By your actions will you be known.

Collingwood did everything they could to help him when his dad got gravely ill, there are two franchises up there almost equidistant realistically from his dad's struggles. One offered fair trade, which he spurned. The other offered nothing but crap - that same club incidentally he was proven to have been talking to halfway through the season behind the clubs back - guess which one he chose.

And why???

Because he had the shits over his rat pack mates being pushed out and he wanted to punish Collingwood by putting them over the barrel.

His departure from Brisbane was almost a carbon copy of his leaving us holding the bag.

Now he's back and guess what?

Here we go again.

A spiteful, selfish and vindictive person PROVEN by his own actions.

A plausible liar and a manipulative sh@T.

Having experienced the horrors of the dark tunnel myself I have deep sympathy for genuine sufferers and would lend a helping hand to any friend or relative suffering from its horrors.

Beams however is a proven liar and manipulator - so no, until he starts to grow up and show a care for anyone beyond himself.

No a thousand times no.
Click to expand...
Im not sure rhat I'd describe JDG, Crisp and Greenwood as crap.
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
Treatment is simple. Train hard and win back the trust of your teammates. Play well and win the plaudits and love of the fans, your family and friends. Focus on a premiership then revel in the ecstasy of ultimate achievement. Feast on the accumulated self esteem and the feeling of self worth. Enjoy the company of fellow players who shared in the achievement and reflect nostalgically on the acts and hard work that delivered ultimate glory. Repeat.
Click to expand...
Well said
 
jonbe54 said:
You know very well I was talking about HIS INTENT.

That the situation worked out well was FAR from his intent.

Now matter how hard you polish it a turd is still a turd.
Click to expand...
Do you hold the same attitudes towards Treloar, WHE, and Hiwe who nominated us rather than saying trade me anywhere in Melbourne.
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
There is only the smallest element of sarcasm in my comment. Anything that takes the focus off himself and turns it towards success enjoyed with others is going to benefit Dayne. Removing himself from the game and the club merely allows his demons to retain full control of his life.
Click to expand...
Yes, totally agree. Navel gazing is not likely to improve one's sense of self-worth or well-being.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

S
Rumour AFL player to retire (confirmed: Angus Brayshaw)
2 3
Replies
72
Views
3K
domus
domus
Maggie5
List Mgmt. Teams Delistings and Retirements
2
Replies
45
Views
3K
pablo disco bar
pablo disco bar

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top