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Friday last week nationa death toll:We would have to start counting the suicide rate next to the actual deaths from the virus which is an absolutely heartbreaking thing to imagine.
I guess when we abandon the law of the sea and depart civilisation,When do we start sinking the cruise ships that refuse to leave?
I'd quite enjoy watching ScoMo on a war crimes trial.I guess when we abandon the law of the sea and depart civilisation,
Next stop war crimes trail.
Pick a ****** on TV
While we got lucky, there must be some other factors at play that actually mean Italy is not going to happen in every country. We certainly didn't lock down quick so maybe weather and other factors will make the virus less contagious than first expected. The sky is falling people should eventually get the message or just hold out for another two weeks.
SARS vaccines were in trial but went no further because by that point there was little further call. Given this virus is related to SARS, itself a coronavirus, I imagine (with no background) those would be the starting points if the new virus is related closely enough.
Apparently eighteen months would require significant fast-tracking, even assuming a vaccine went to human trial soon. Fast-tracking seems quite possible in some places.
We were lucky it was summer here, so less people coughing from normal flu. Also Europe was in football season with its big crowds both at games and in crowded pubs.
We were only in the end of cricket with the big bash finished, Afl just beginning its trials.
Their public transport is also more crowded, and a higher percentage of people use it.
J&J targeting early 2021
Johnson & Johnson sets ambitious Covid-19 vaccine target
US pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson (J&J) has teamed up with a government office to commit more than US$1 billion (AUD$1.62 billion) for research, developwww.businessnewsaus.com.au
As far as I know, this is the first I’ve heard of big pharma getting involved.
Time is the problem How do you make human trials go faster but still keep the same level of safety ?People keep repeating this 18 months thing not knowing that the H1N1 epidemic in 2009 (swine flu) resulted in a vaccine in 9 months. Everything will be thrown at this one, I guarantee it.
Time is the problem How do you make human trials go faster but still keep the same level of safety ?
Atm
40 first trial
200 next trial
2000 next trial
That all takes time
Do we maybe skip the first 2 and just go to a massive trial?
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I see 18months as overly optimisticOf course it will take time, there's a whole series of trials to go through even if you skip the animal testing and thousands volunteer as guinea pis, but I think those that are peddling the 18 months line are being unnecessarily pessimistic.
Why is it going to take so much longer than swine flu vaccine?
Who still thinks they will have a vaccine in 18months?
And who wants to go get it if they do?
Because I know I dont
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Honestly?
We have a virus that has the potential to kill millions worldwide in a year, that you can have and not know it and is extremely contagious and you won't get vaccinated from it??
Well firstly, enjoy the view from the inside of your house because I daresay that is all you will be allowed to see until you are vaccinated.
And secondly, research why you don't have Polio...
I think he's just expressing a rushed vaccine could be human guinea pig territoryHonestly?
We have a virus that has the potential to kill millions worldwide in a year, that you can have and not know it and is extremely contagious and you won't get vaccinated from it??
Well firstly, enjoy the view from the inside of your house because I daresay that is all you will be allowed to see until you are vaccinated.
And secondly, research why you don't have Polio...
Honestly?
We have a virus that has the potential to kill millions worldwide in a year, that you can have and not know it and is extremely contagious and you won't get vaccinated from it??
Well firstly, enjoy the view from the inside of your house because I daresay that is all you will be allowed to see until you are vaccinated.
And secondly, research why you don't have Polio...
Did you watch the video or just comment?Honestly?
We have a virus that has the potential to kill millions worldwide in a year, that you can have and not know it and is extremely contagious and you won't get vaccinated from it??
Well firstly, enjoy the view from the inside of your house because I daresay that is all you will be allowed to see until you are vaccinated.
And secondly, research why you don't have Polio...
Did you watch the video or just comment?
It's about rushing it and the problems involved. I love vaccines rushing them and bypassing the safety protocols to infect millions not smart. I'd rather take my odds with the virus.
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We already had influenza vaccines it was just a case of tinkering with it, from Wikipedia:Why is it going to take so much longer than swine flu vaccine?