News Eddie McGuire steps down as Collingwood President

[Carringbush2010]

I listed a heap of quality improvements, successful 23yrs under Ed. You said i was easily pleased.

That doesnt make sense? In Ed we Trust he smashed it.

Ok without going down a rabbit hole and going over things ad nauseum about Ed we achieved the ultimate success once in his reign, that is not good enough in that time.

Not to mention other incidents I'm sure you're aware of, if you play dumb and ask I'll fairly speculate you're trolling, are actually ill informed or just actually stupid.

Not everyone, in fact most don't trust Ed anymore, certainly not to preside over our club.

Your choice.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Sounds sh*t

Enjoy.

 

[Mike Olotripo]

Well, it looks like it will be a shit fight between Korda and Murphy for the presidency.

Board upheaval at Collingwood is in our DNA.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Well, it looks like it will be a sh*t fight between Korda and Murphy for the presidency.

Board upheaval at Collingwood is in our DNA.

Not sure why you jump to that conclusion.

Its the role of boards to have robust debate in order to get the best outcome. Good to see that at least two people want the role. Better than just letting one person go unchallenged for 23 years...

 

[Mike Olotripo]

Not sure why you jump to that conclusion.

Its the role of boards to have robust debate in order to get the best outcome. Good to see that at least two people want the role. Better than just letting one person go unchallenged for 23 years...

I agree on the robust debate as being the best outcome but go back and read on the club's history, almost every president bar McGuire has come to office after a lot of blood being spilled. Back in the day the players would even get involved and handout for presidential candidates as well as send letters to members urging them to vote one way or the other.

I have read it in the mighty book Kill for Collingwood by Richard Stremski, which is a fascinating read for any Collingwood fan. Very rare to find, but worthwhile.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I agree on the robust debate as being the best outcome but go back and read on the club's history, almost every president bar McGuire has come to office after a lot of blood being spilled. Back in the day the players would even get involved and handout for presidential candidates as well as send letters to members urging them to vote one way or the other.

I have read it in the mighty book Kill for Collingwood by Richard Stremski, which is a fascinating read for any Collingwood fan. Very rare to find, but worthwhile.

Ill judge on what I perceive is happening now on its merits, rather than make ridiculous assumptions that the events of 50 years ago (or whenever) will repeat themselves.

As stated in my year 12 English text, The Go-Between... "the past is a foreign country... they do things differently there"

 

[queensberryrules]

Your post is brilliantly hilarious. This one though really brought the house down.

He brought the professional narrative,

I think his downfall was TOO MUCH professionalism. Just oozing PROFESSIONALISM.

Yeah. That's what it was.

 

[THE SALT]

Ok without going down a rabbit hole and going over things ad nauseum about Ed we achieved the ultimate success once in his reign, that is not good enough in that time.

Not to mention other incidents I'm sure you're aware of, if you play dumb and ask I'll fairly speculate you're trolling, are actually ill informed or just actually stupid.

Not everyone, in fact most don't trust Ed anymore, certainly not to preside over our club.

Your choice.

Nonsense. Clubs been flying under Eds Presidency, did so many great things, excellent media operator. He gets to leave on his terms, head held high, respected by peers, players, supporters for a frrkn job well done. Thank you Ed, we owe you so much time and respect for everything.

Ultimate success is not easy, neither is defining or arguing a solid case against Ed if you ignore the body of work that was decades of rolling up his sleeves getting shit done. This what annoys me, all the good work gets forgotten. Its not even entirely understood how bloody necessary that bloke was to our club.

I get pretty pissed when i hear other muppets from other clubs say sack Buckley and its time for Eddie to move on. When i hear it from Pies supporters i scratch my frrkn head!!!!! So i wanna hear ya case against Ed. Not respecting the great man, his legacy and forcing him out instead of on his terms as stated at end of 2021. Shameful....

Incidents? What incidents?

Im not playing dumb, its a football club.....

 

[Carringbush2010]

Nonsense. Clubs been flying under Eds Presidency, did so many great things, excellent media operator. He gets to leave on his terms, head held high, respected by peers, players, supporters for a frrkn job well done. Thank you Ed, we owe you so much time and respect for everything.

Ultimate success is not easy, neither is defining or arguing a solid case against Ed if you ignore the body of work that was decades of rolling up his sleeves getting sh*t done. This what annoys me, all the good work gets forgotten. Its not even entirely understood how bloody necessary that bloke was to our club.

I get pretty pissed when i hear other muppets from other clubs say sack Buckley and its time for Eddie to move on. When i hear it from Pies supporters i scratch my frrkn head!!!!! So i wanna hear ya case against Ed. Not respecting the great man, his legacy and forcing him out instead of on his terms as stated at end of 2021. Shameful....

Incidents? What incidents?

Im not playing dumb, its a football club.....

This is sarcasm right? Genuine question, if you don't know the 'incidents' and I'll list them if you've genuinely been living under a rock and are so loyally blind that you can't see the reason the governance has been lacking if you want, and that has arguably cost us success. Than all I can say is you have been living under a rock.

It's very hard to believe you're being fair dinkum, if you are, you're so alone in your view it's not funny.

 

[THE SALT]

Your post is brilliantly hilarious. This one though really brought the house down.



I think his downfall was TOO MUCH professionalism. Just oozing PROFESSIONALISM.

Yeah. That's what it was.

Downfall of genuine legend of the club, being metred out like a tape worm by the uppity muppetry thats been spewing this divisionary, negative, finality type narrative since Micks departure....

"Nah he has to go and Bucks with him useless prick" --

Id be reading all the bullshit supporters have had in their minds since.. "oh they gotta go?" Theyve ruined that football club....

In here the argument seems to be "not enough success" yet its the players out there on GF day. Eds the one who facilitated us getting their but he cant be responsible on the days result. Agreed? So if you do then you can also agree he has done it very well. 2002, 2003, 5pts of GF 2007, GF 2010, 2011, 4th 2012...rebuild back in GF in 2018.

Our enviable position we take for granted, removes from the equation the decades of wonderful growth, financial positioning, stability, and respect the Collingwood football club enjoys since the day that stalwart that loves the club came in and got shit happening. From where it was; to where we are now is no joke, its everything. It should be passed down to your kids and grandkids. Its a great story not an ass transplaant. We arent the Saints getting fed $4mill a year.

Youre carrying on like we are - the house that Ed helped build. It should be your favourite.

I swear i can hear the frowning and positioning of your weight on nothing but hot air youve blown up yaselves - its such a shit position to defend cos its written into the fabric of our club what Eddie fookin McGuire has done us - its not up to be pissed on its there to enjoy and pay respects.

For the game, for all yall mutha wuckers, you should celebrate the man. Maybe if you could show the respect he deserves has earnt then perhaps you might get heard back in kind, but i dont trust a negative framing..ill be honest....youre weird/foreign to me to even try push this tiresome witch hunt. This fatalism, "oh ed has to go....were losing games....they gotta go...


Just be real for 5mins - you didnt do the blood sweat n tears, and in no position to piss on his legacy - why would you? I struggle to be engaged by gossipy housewife secret squirrel "he has to go" Home and Away bullshit! Its the ultimate insult to Ed who for years fought tooth n nail to keep damaging forces, narratives and beat ups out of the mouths of muppets.

Dont air your dirty laundry, Dont poison the well, celebrate 23yrs of excellence instead.

 

[THE SALT]

This is sarcasm right? Genuine question, if you don't know the 'incidents' and I'll list them if you've genuinely been living under a rock and are so loyally blind that you can't see the reason the governance has been lacking if you want, and that has arguably cost us success. Than all I can say is you have been living under a rock.

It's very hard to believe you're being fair dinkum, if you are, you're so alone in your view it's not funny.

What incidents, please name them. Im not being disingenuous. Im trying to understand where he hid the bodies and buried the nazi gold?

 

[Carringbush2010]

What incidents, please name them.

Wow you really are serious, where have you been the last 10 years?

- Binging back Gubby Allen, arguably that had an effect on Balme leaving.
- The Goodes gaff.
- His hand in the Beams trade in.
- The Caro gaff.
- Allowing the board to allow the FD in Wells and Mayne trades.
- The failed succession plan.
- The press conference with the 'proud day for the club' comment.
- The conflict of interest being a broadcaster at the same time presiding over the highest profile organization in the country.

They're just off the top my head.

FYI the role of the president:

To ensure the board is competent enough in governance that all departments (including the FD) at the club are running optimally - clearly the board and clearly the FD have failed in these areas. The board should have and have not disciplined the FD where they've failed (on field performance).

 

[THE SALT]

Dont forget we had a career ending injury to the GOAT Dane Swan

Dane Swan

Age

42

Ht

185cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.9

5star

K

16.4

5star

HB

10.4

5star

M

5.9

5star

T

3.1

5star

CL

5.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

. You think that loss wasnt tragic - another 2yrs easy ...gone.

 

[davywap]

Wow you really are serious, where have you been the last 10 years?

- Binging back Gubby Allen, arguably that had an effect on Balme leaving.
- The Goodes gaff.
- His hand in the Beams trade in.
- The Caro gaff.
- Allowing the board to allow the FD in Wells and Mayne trades.
- The failed succession plan.
- The press conference with the 'proud day for the club' comment.
- The conflict of interest being a broadcaster at the same time presiding over the highest profile organization in the country.

They're just off the top my head.

FYI the role of the president:

To ensure the board is competent enough in governance that all departments (including the FD) at the club are running optimally - clearly the board and clearly the FD have failed in these areas. The board should have and have not disciplined the FD where they've failed (on field performance).

At least half of those are bullshit

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

There was no hope of Eddie going quietly. Watching him talk over the top of others last night, and try to justify his remarks on Footy Classified was typical self serving Eddie.

 

[manicpie]

Wow you really are serious, where have you been the last 10 years?

- Binging back Gubby Allen, arguably that had an effect on Balme leaving.
- The Goodes gaff.
- His hand in the Beams trade in.
- The Caro gaff.
- Allowing the board to allow the FD in Wells and Mayne trades.
- The failed succession plan.
- The press conference with the 'proud day for the club' comment.
- The conflict of interest being a broadcaster at the same time presiding over the highest profile organization in the country.

They're just off the top my head.

FYI the role of the president:

To ensure the board is competent enough in governance that all departments (including the FD) at the club are running optimally - clearly the board and clearly the FD have failed in these areas. The board should have and have not disciplined the FD where they've failed (on field performance).

You could add the Salary cap fiasco and the ridiculous contracts that some players were on, all under the Presidents watch

 

[sideswipe]

There was no hope of Eddie going quietly. Watching him talk over the top of others last night, and try to justify his remarks on Footy Classified was typical self serving Eddie.

“People took what I said the wrong way,” McGuire said. “I suppose this is the thing, I’ve thought long and hard about this; How did I miss this? How did I muck this up? How did people take it the wrong way?""

It is interesting that whilst he did say he himself did "muck up", the real problem was that people "took things the wrong way" rather than him saying he misspoke or used the wrong language.

But I think a guy who has served the club in an honorary capacity for over 20 years deserves to be treated better than being called "typical self serving Eddie" by some plonker on BigFooty. When viewing his presidency as a whole, that is out of line.

 

[jackcass]

There was no hope of Eddie going quietly. Watching him talk over the top of others last night, and try to justify his remarks on Footy Classified was typical self serving Eddie.

WTF? He's not being highly paid for a media gig to be a wall-flower.

He's a legend of the club and in the fullness of time will be recognised as such. Not sure why people continue to grind axes.

 

[Scodog10]

“People took what I said the wrong way,” McGuire said. “I suppose this is the thing, I’ve thought long and hard about this; How did I miss this? How did I muck this up? How did people take it the wrong way?""

It is interesting that whilst he did say he himself did "muck up", the real problem was that people "took things the wrong way" rather than him saying he misspoke or used the wrong language.

But I think a guy who has served the club in an honorary capacity for over 20 years deserves to be treated better than being called "typical self serving Eddie" by some plonker on BigFooty. When viewing his presidency as a whole, that is out of line.

I’ll be the plonker because he’s lost the plot. McGuire ****ed up yet he STILL considers that others took it the wrong way. The lack of humility is impressive in a bizarre way. It doesn’t change how I view his tenure, but it’s pushing me toward turning off from McGuire the media personality.

 

[sideswipe]

I’ll be the plonker because he’s lost the plot. McGuire f’ed up yet he STILL considers that others took it the wrong way. The lack of humility is impressive in a bizarre way. It doesn’t change how I view his tenure, but it’s pushing me toward turning off from McGuire the media personality.

So we agree? I only objected to the self serving label.

You are but a nascent plonker but still plonk impressively.

 

[jackcass]

I’ll be the plonker because he’s lost the plot. McGuire f’ed up yet he STILL considers that others took it the wrong way. The lack of humility is impressive in a bizarre way. It doesn’t change how I view his tenure, but it’s pushing me toward turning off from McGuire the media personality.

His only f'up was leaving it open to interpretation. I certainly assumed when he used the term "proud" that he was referring to the club getting on the front foot, implementing the review, and accepting the recommendations of that review. It was a landmark scenario and to me the obvious interpretation. Yet people wanted to believe somehow that he was inferring we were somehow proud of our history with racism. I've heard from many people, Collingwood supporters and supporters of other teams, some of them indigenous, and they to a man/woman agree with my interpretation. It's only sectors of the media, BF and broader social media pushing the other barrow.

 

[noideaatall]

His only f'up was leaving it open to interpretation. I certainly assumed when he used the term "proud" that he was referring to the club getting on the front foot, implementing the review, and accepting the recommendations of that review. It was a landmark scenario and to me the obvious interpretation. Yet people wanted to believe somehow that he was inferring we were somehow proud of our history with racism. I've heard from many people, Collingwood supporters and supporters of other teams, some of them indigenous, and they to a man/woman agree with my interpretation. It's only sectors of the media, BF and broader social media pushing the other barrow.

I'd agree with that interpretation. I don't understand why it was part of his speech, why he didn't allow others to say it. It is such a minor part of this picture. Eddie gravely misjudged the attitude/mood around this issue.

 

[Billys Back]

His only f'up was leaving it open to interpretation. I certainly assumed when he used the term "proud" that he was referring to the club getting on the front foot, implementing the review, and accepting the recommendations of that review. It was a landmark scenario and to me the obvious interpretation. Yet people wanted to believe somehow that he was inferring we were somehow proud of our history with racism. I've heard from many people, Collingwood supporters and supporters of other teams, some of them indigenous, and they to a man/woman agree with my interpretation. It's only sectors of the media, BF and broader social media pushing the other barrow.

Yeah I agree but being the experienced media personality that he is, he should have understood the focus was going to be on what he said. Throw in the fact that the report was critical of the club being more concerned with self-preservation and his first sentence basically, in they eyes of the media, reinforced this fact.

Maybe his first sentence should have been that the club was sorry that it’s own ‘family’ had felt isolated and without a voice. Then he could have spoken about how they were going to prioritise improving the environment to be inclusive for every player and staff member.

He just should have known better. Maybe he was just burnt out.

 

[Billys Back]

And just to add, it really shouldn’t have been a situation where you are ‘proud’ to be making changes or organising an internal review. If the club had been professional over the past 10 years or so in this area, there wouldn’t have been a need to have a public review conducted.

 

[Markfs]

“People took what I said the wrong way,” McGuire said. “I suppose this is the thing, I’ve thought long and hard about this; How did I miss this? How did I muck this up? How did people take it the wrong way?""

It is interesting that whilst he did say he himself did "muck up", the real problem was that people "took things the wrong way" rather than him saying he misspoke or used the wrong language.

But I think a guy who has served the club in an honorary capacity for over 20 years deserves to be treated better than being called "typical self serving Eddie" by some plonker on BigFooty. When viewing his presidency as a whole, that is out of line.

Excuse me for lacking in the precise science, but there's something that 2 year olds develop where they can put themselves into other people's shoes - it goes to feeling empathy. It was once thought that only humans had this trait but it appears that chimpanzees and elephants have it to.

Eddie has stunted growth in this area. He fails to see himself through other people's eyes. Some would call it arrogance or self-centredness. I just think it's a blindspot. It's helped him push-through on things that are hard to do. It drives his optimism or perhaps more it stops others from hosing down his optimism.

Anyway, I liked this analysis and if you think it's crap, you're probably right.