Australian Vaccine Rollout

[HPKS]

Going by all the data even with 70 - 80% tax coverage we're going to have 1000's of cases a day and 50-100 deaths. Who's going to be brave enough politically to pull the trigger and let it happen?

Modelling for life after mass vaccination

DOHERTY INSTITUTE MODELLING: NOW * Until there are high vaccination rates, the best strategy is to continue with the suppression approach and lock down early...

www.esperanceexpress.com.au

 

[Northalives]

Going by all the data even with 70 - 80% tax coverage we're going to have 1000's of cases a day and 50-100 deaths. Who's going to be brave enough politically to pull the trigger and let it happen?

They are preparing the ground for the line, "it's endemic", just as they tried the "herd immunity" palaver when they knew that it was not possible with this pathogen. Don't worry, even though some thoughtless types will lap that up as well, the vast majority of Australians have shown that they aren't drongos and knuckdraggers and "leader", or Government, that goes for the "let 'er rip" scenario, will be burnt out of existence in Australia.

Once again, I have to say that even though this thread is entitled Australian Vaccine Rollout, we could all be having a civil discussion about the good and bad aspects of the roll out without having outbreak after outbreak, lockdown after lockdown, deaths and people in ICU occurring if the quarantining of this pathogen was as it should be and whilst the most vital weapon in the fight to stop Covid-19 is being ignored, ie, quarantine facilities, trying to subdue Covid is, as it has been proving, futile.

 

[Northalives]

Modelling for life after mass vaccination

DOHERTY INSTITUTE MODELLING: NOW * Until there are high vaccination rates, the best strategy is to continue with the suppression approach and lock down early...

www.esperanceexpress.com.au

It's amazing how the idiot Health Minister hunt and his slimy boss Morrison refer to the Doherty Institute when it suits them and completely ignores them when it doesn't.

 

[HPKS]

It's amazing how the idiot Health Minister hunt and his slimy boss Morrison refer to the Doherty Institute when it suits them and completely ignores them when it doesn't.

Politicians they’re all the same. PR & bullshit

 

[Brad Goodman]

Good to hear mid November is the predicted time frame for 70% fully vaccinated nation.

Hope we get there but I’ll believe it when I see it, all governments are great at over promising and under delivering.

 

[Deliverance]

Is a percentage even a good way to judge this? The UK has more unvaxed people than us, squished in to a tiny island.

 

[Mindtraveller]

Going by all the data even with 70 - 80% tax coverage we're going to have 1000's of cases a day and 50-100 deaths. Who's going to be brave enough politically to pull the trigger and let it happen?

Depends how you look at the data. 99.5% of American deaths currently unvaccinated. Hospitalizations would be similar. If all of Australia got vaccinated it wouldn't be an issue

 

[Mindtraveller]

Is a percentage even a good way to judge this? The UK has more unvaxed people than us, squished in to a tiny island.

Only just, and a majority would be kids. Our pollies talk about 63% of the adult population as the target which is 70 or 80%

 

[Bazzar]

Hope we get there but I’ll believe it when I see it, all governments are great at over promising and under delivering.

Not just the government, epidemiologists are saying it

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Id say we planned. As I said above, the main priority was to be able to manufacture here. Then we control the release. The problem is most drug companies refused. Out of the big players, only AstraZeneca has any level of humanitarian thought in what they are doing.

The government then looked to what else could be done.

The big problem is, a couple of important voices have said some very dumb things. Hunt started it, then QLD doubled down. But the reality is, the message should be simple enough that it doesnt matter if a politician misspeaks.

Vaccines save lives
Vaccines stop lockdowns
Vaccines allow free travel interstate and overseas
If you dont vaccinate we are not going to let you hold us back
Etc.

We didn't plan at all.

The consensus is that a broad net procurement strategy was best practice but Morrison wanted to penny pinch.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

We have enough to vaccinate the country. The problem is moron politicians and health officials gave people the reason to be scared. Plus, there is zero downside to old people not bothering getting vaccinated, other than the minor risk of being killed by COVID. They have their pensions and Great British Railways. They dont have to care that the rest of us want to get out and about and (most of us) want to work.

No, we don't currently have anywhere near large enough reserves to vaccinate the country, why lie?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

We've already ordered 195 million doses of five different vaccines. Not enough for you?

Nope, given when they were ordered and the fact we rejected priority access due to $.

 

[Bazzar]

No, we don't currently have anywhere near large enough reserves to vaccinate the country, why lie?

25 million doses delivered, 14 million administered. Not sure how the 11 million differential is calculated

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Laughing stock throughout the rest of the world?

What do you mean?

Our vaccine rollout has been roundly panned in the international press.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

25 million doses delivered, 14 million administered. Not sure how the 11 million differential is calculated

We've received but not distributed enough to achieve approx. 60% first doses of the adult population.

That's a long way off "having more than enough for everyone to be vaccinated."

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

It's amazing how the idiot Health Minister hunt and his slimy boss Morrison refer to the Doherty Institute when it suits them and completely ignores them when it doesn't.

They are used to yes men, like Murphy and Coatsworth.

 

[Bazzar]

We've received but not distributed enough to achieve approx. 60% first doses of the adult population.

That's a long way off "having more than enough for everyone to be vaccinated."

We've distributed 18 million. So 4 million are sitting waiting to be used.
7 million are in storage.

 

[HairyO]

Our vaccine rollout has been roundly panned in the international press.

Its cute that you think the world press focusses on Australia.

What you mean is The Guardian Online with articles written by Australian contributors.

I assume they list the lack of people dying as the major cause for low uptake ?

If we are so short of vaccines why are we giving millions of doses to our SE Asian neighbours who have huge issues with deaths ?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

We've distributed 18 million. So 4 million are sitting waiting to be used.
7 million are in storage.

That is a long way short of the approx. 40 million total doses required for full adult coverage.

More because the Delta variant will require children and adolescents to receive the vaccine.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Its cute that you think the world press focusses on Australia.

What you mean is The Guardian Online with articles written by Australian contributors.

I assume they list the lack of people dying as the major cause for low uptake ?

If we are so short of vaccines why are we giving millions of doses to our SE Asian neighbours who have huge issues with deaths ?

No, the BBC, Washington Post and NYT to name a few.

It's been an appalling failure, as per the current lockdowns and extremely low rate of 2nd dose recipients vs other OECD states.

 

[Bazzar]

That is a long way short of the approx. 40 million total doses required for full adult coverage.

More because the Delta variant will require children and adolescents to receive the vaccine.

By the time they're almost finished more will have arrived

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

By the time they're almost finished more will have arrived

And yet it's been too late to prevent the current waves of outbreaks.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Abysmal failure, much like our quarantine policy.

 

[HairyO]

No, the BBC, Washington Post and NYT to name a few.

It's been an appalling failure, as per the current lockdowns and extremely low rate of 2nd dose recipients vs other OECD states.

Given we are ahead of some US states and we are ahead of NZ I assume they didnt just focus on us?

And did they compare numbers dying as a key driver for uptake levels?

I assume you read the entire articles not just the headings ?

Got any examples, BTW ?

 

[Mateyman]

Is a percentage even a good way to judge this? The UK has more unvaxed people than us, squished in to a tiny island.

The best way might be the Reff of the virus in your population given the number of vaxed people. This would take into account some areas naturally having higher Reff's due to population density etc. This would be quite a convoluted metric to calculate, so a percentage figure is probably a good proxy.