Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II

[Jumping Jack]

Saw Tanner Bruhn having a kick up at St Mary's last night.

Any chance we get in his ear to request a trade home.

3 way deal - Clark - Lobb - Bruhn

Plus the obligatory steak knives included

I think the club has a Bruhn firmly in their sites - but not Tanner.

Sam Walsh is an interesting "watch" over the next 12 month's. Geelong will make a serious play - we'll have retirements cap space and list spots. Doesn't mean we'll land him but I think a lot will hinge on whether he clicks with Voss. If not, there's a view that he's gettable.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Also if Lobb does go to GWS we absolutely should be seeing if we can get Briggs out of there (i know hes a local kid and contracted) as he will really struggle to get games and he is in the age bracket for the ruck we need.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Bingo. That's where my head is at.

Some in here are comparing Ceglar to Fort like he's a massive downgrade. I'm not sure that's the case from where I sit.

Agreed.

 

[Leeds17]

Saw Tanner Bruhn having a kick up at St Mary's last night.

Any chance we get in his ear to request a trade home.

3 way deal - Clark - Lobb - Bruhn

Plus the obligatory steak knives included

No, but I’d love it, kid will be special.

 

[Leeds17]

Also if Lobb does go to GWS we absolutely should be seeing if we can get Briggs out of there (i know hes a local kid and contracted) as he will really struggle to get games and he is in the age bracket for the ruck we need.

Not sure he’s actually any good, Briggs that is, watched him pretty close for fantasy football reasons & wasn’t really impressed though will admit not like he had a lot of opportunities.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

How many games did these blokes play in 2021? Am I right in saying there was no VIC junior footy? Maybe we're better off targeting WA/SA kids with exposed form e.g. Draper/Roberts from SA, Johnson from WA. I'd also love the mature age SA prospect Leek Alleer.

Good point Boris.
But FWIW i wouldn't look at SA too much.
A little over rated comp/players IMO.
Of course there are exceptions. Rozee & Day look like gems though.
2020 crop. P2 Riley Thilthorpe , P10 Pedlar, P13 Powell, P16 L.Jones, P25 Cook, P30 Poulter. P37 Durdin
2019 crop. P5 Dylan Stephens, P12 Pickett, P13 Day, P24 Schoenberg, P25 Mead, P26 Gould.
2018 crop. P2 Jack Lukosius, P3 Rankine, P5 Rozee, P14 Hateley, P27 Sparrow.
2017 crop. P12 Darcy Fogarty, P20 C Coleman-Jones, P37 Petty.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Bingo. That's where my head is at.

Some in here are comparing Ceglar to Fort like he's a massive downgrade. I'm not sure that's the case from where I sit.

Isnt the case in the slightest, only got to look at the Round 13 stat line to know his output is better than Fort.
20 Touches,11 clearances, a goal and 35 hitouts against Hickey who was rated as one of the recruits of the season.

 

[Leeds17]

Lobb has always struck me as an unfulfilled talent like our boy Stanley surely there’s no first round picks involved

 

[Gee Class Loco]

You can forget 19, its not going to happen, Freo already ruled that out.

Until they rule it back in of course. lol

 

[Hamingja]

Bingo. That's where my head is at.

Some in here are comparing Ceglar to Fort like he's a massive downgrade. I'm not sure that's the case from where I sit.

Ceglar is an upgrade on Fort if you can get him for pick 50 or whatever Brisbane gives us for Fort but not worth it if we have to give up a second round pick.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Lobb has always struck me as an unfulfilled talent like our boy Stanley surely there’s no first round picks involved

Always thought he could have made it as a Ruck but refuses to play there.

 

[gaz love x]

Ceglar is an upgrade on Stanley but he's still mediocre at best and we shouldn't be trading anything of value for 30 year olds with our list profile. If we give up anything in addition to Fort it's a bad deal. We wouldn't need help paying Ceglar's contract if we didn't just give Stanley a new two year contract for some ungodly reason.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Ceglar is an upgrade on Stanley but he's still mediocre at best and we shouldn't be trading anything of value for 30 year olds with our list profile. If we give up anything in addition to Fort it's a bad deal. We wouldn't need help paying Ceglar's contract if we didn't just give Stanley a new two year contract for some ungodly reason.

Pick 41 is hardly giving up value in a draft set to only have around 50 live selections, dont really see why people are so fussed about that aspect.

 

[gaz love x]

Pick 41 is hardly giving up value in a draft set to only have around 50 live selections, dont really see why people are so fussed about that aspect.

If that's what it is it isn't the end of the world but I would still rather trade it up or into next season. It's years too late to be making marginal gains in the ruck. And if we're bringing in Ceglar (presumably on a two year contract) then it should be at Stanley's expense, we shouldn't have two 31 year olds taking up two list spots when they only make up 3/4 of a good ruckman between them.

 

[Boxhead_31]

You can forget 19, its not going to happen, Freo already ruled that out.

Would that be like when we ruled out trading three firsts for Cameron?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I'd rather trade pick 41 into next year than use it on Ceglar.

Hold Fort to his contract.

 

[iameviljez]

Pretty sure it's up to me as to why / when I come in here?

But I just find it a bit comical at the extreme nature of commentary from some in here who hold themselves out to be more informed than the people actually paid to do the job. Those within the inner sanctum of the club. By all means people can have an opinion - but I think it's a bit much when some hold themselves out to know more than the experts actually in charge of list management.

I can speak from first hand experience through professional interactions with list managers and recruiting managers - and there's so much more to these decisions that the average punter just would not appreciate. So again, fine for people to express a view or an opinion, but to suggest (as some posters do) that the decisions are "maddening" "perplexing" "not based on any common sense" then I think it's opportune just to call it out.

It’s an Internet forum, never let lack of expertise hold you back

 

[calder_daddy]

I'd rather trade pick 41 into next year than use it on Ceglar.

Hold Fort to his contract.

I’m happy to keep Fort
If we give him games when Ratugalea shits the bed.
We can’t just keep giving him games on potential

 

[Cameron_Jezza]

Also if Lobb does go to GWS we absolutely should be seeing if we can get Briggs out of there (i know hes a local kid and contracted) as he will really struggle to get games and he is in the age bracket for the ruck we need.

Briggs and 13 for 34 and geelong 2022r1.

 

[catempire]

I'd rather trade pick 41 into next year than use it on Ceglar.

Hold Fort to his contract.

This is a no-brainer.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I’m happy to keep Fort
If we give him games when Ratugalea shits the bed.
We can’t just keep giving him games on potential

I'm not sure Ratugolea will ever make it. He doesn't have the football nous to be an around the ground ruckman, nor will his kicking technique ever be adequate enough to make it as a forward.

Neale is a far better prospect for that position.

 

[goyoucatters]

We've already made an investment into our future in the ruck in recent times. And that at a time when we looked closer to a flag than we do after 2021. So to invest anything of real note (in either picks or cash) in another 'placeholder' would be seriously poor list management for mine.

If Fort is to go, someone like Ceglar needs to come for two-fifths of not much. And the Hawks (who clearly don't see him as all that important to their ongoing prospects) would have to be OK with that as well. In the end, we need to show that he means just as little to us as he apparently does to them. Then a fair deal for his acquisition (if it becomes necessary) can hopefully be done.

 

[ShaunWDT]

We've already made an investment into our future in the ruck in recent times. And that at a time when we looked closer to a flag than we do after 2021. So to invest anything of real note (in either picks or cash) in another 'placeholder' would be seriously poor list management for mine.

If Fort is to go, someone like Ceglar needs to come for two-fifths of not much. And the Hawks (who clearly don't see him as all that important to their ongoing prospects) would have to be OK with that as well. In the end, we need to show that he means just as little to us as he apparently does to them. Then a fair deal for his acquisition (if it becomes necessary) can hopefully be done.

You need that mature body there as depth, Stanley gets injured we are stuffed with Ratugolea,Neale and Tsap as our options.
(Cant take Blitz out of a defence already lacking size)

 

[goyoucatters]

I'm not sure Ratugolea will ever make it. He doesn't have the football nous to be an around the ground ruckman, nor will his kicking technique ever be adequate enough to make it as a forward.

Neale is a far better prospect for that position.

Absolutely agree. Shannon is a fantastic prospect. Were he to be given the same 50 senior games that Rata's already had, I think we could be looking at a real player. Very keen for the club to sign him up again ASAP.

 

[goyoucatters]

You need that mature body there as depth, Stanley gets injured we are stuffed with Ratugolea,Neale and Tsap as our options.

As I said, I don't disagree with the overall notion. Just the fact that you would seriously pay in picks or dollars for someone as 'meh' as Ceglar is the concern for me. It would be one step forward, two steps back in the list build around our ruck stocks if we blow meaningful capital on a player who will most likely end up seriously clogging the list for the length of his contract.