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He hasn’t had the chance for scott to ruin him yetI almost fell off the bed when I read this positive post DAKP.
Senior 10: Mitch Knevitt (2021 - )
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Unimpressed because I don't like someone whose 1 wood is size, speed and power (via testing) who doesn't seem to play with speed and power but tests really well with it. Ordinary kick and I just don't see the explosion from stoppage that the testing suggests he should have.
However I have seen * all of him and will 1 million percent back the people who will have watched him so so so many more times than I have. More importantly they will have watched all the others around that selection more because it is literally their full time job. It doesn't mean they are always right. I was never sold on Cooper Stephens who seems to be the same player. Big inside mid (who tests bloody well but doesn't play that way).
I am confident I will be wrong and they will be right cause I back the Geelong people who do it. For all the back and forth on here Wells is unquestionably the best to ever do it at this stage, so I bow to the great one on this selection. Although I reserve the right to smash them (hahahaha) if he and CS fail as big inside mids while M Roberts kills it at Sydney.
I will say I love James Willis he is a flat out can play.
I was initially down on him and have said so but I think you summarise it perfectly. MK perhaps more than any other kid taken inside 30 was selected for what he could be not what he currently is. The testing numbers are eye popping for sure. Didn't know he was quite that athletic.
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To be fair to Knevitt this was his first ever year playing midfield. He would have been more focused on the fundamentals than breaking away from packs with his speed.
This is kinda against the point but I don't think big bodied mids need to even be fast and explosive to be elite. Acceleration is one means to create the space required to be impactful in the contest. Bigger players can use there strength to out muscle opponents.
Just look at what Cripps was able to do in the front half of 2019. Arguably that might have been some of the best football a player has ever played in our game. And Cripps can't kick, accelerate or dance around players. What he did to be ultra damaging was just absorb tackles and shove people out of the way to make so much space at stoppages to allow deep entries inside 50.
Once Knevitt fills out hopefully he is able to replicate something similar. And if he is able to develop to be able to use his athletic gifts at stoppages he is going to be an absolute monster and very hard to tag or nullify. And also why I think his upside is higher than anyone else in this draft.
I think the other promising thing is just the shear rate of improvement. At the start of the year he looked a little lost in the midfield and just weeks later he was dominating for Vic Country against the states very best.
I really like him and if I was a recruiter I would have drafted him in the mid to late teens.
This is kinda against the point but I don't think big bodied mids need to even be fast and explosive to be elite. Acceleration is one means to create the space required to be impactful in the contest. Bigger players can use there strength to out muscle opponents.
Just look at what Cripps was able to do in the front half of 2019. Arguably that might have been some of the best football a player has ever played in our game. And Cripps can't kick, accelerate or dance around players. What he did to be ultra damaging was just absorb tackles and shove people out of the way to make so much space at stoppages to allow deep entries inside 50.
Once Knevitt fills out hopefully he is able to replicate something similar. And if he is able to develop to be able to use his athletic gifts at stoppages he is going to be an absolute monster and very hard to tag or nullify. And also why I think his upside is higher than anyone else in this draft.
I think the other promising thing is just the shear rate of improvement. At the start of the year he looked a little lost in the midfield and just weeks later he was dominating for Vic Country against the states very best.
I really like him and if I was a recruiter I would have drafted him in the mid to late teens.
I did not want him as i did not like how skinny he was built like a tooth pick and his kicking, but now he is at the club i hope one day i can say i was wrong about you
Mitch Knevitt a standout among Cats draftees in first training session
A solid group of Geelong’s first-to-fourth year players turned out at Deakin Oval in Waurn Ponds on Wednesday as pre-season training stepped up a gear in the summer heat, with a former Geelong Falcon impressing on the track.
A solid group of Geelong’s first-to-fourth year players turned out at Deakin Oval in Waurn Ponds on Wednesday as pre-season training stepped up a gear in the summer heat.
The Cats selection of draftees were put through their paces by a new-look coaching staff, including post-season acquisitions James Kelly and Matthew Egan.
Former Richmond and Adelaide goal sneak Tyson Stengle made his first public appearance as a Geelong player, while ex-Hawthorn ruckman Jonathan Ceglar was also working hard in the challenging conditions.
Geelong Falcons best-and-fairest Mitch Knevitt, taken by the Cats with selection number 25 in the AFL national draft, was the pick of the first-year players, barely missing a target with either foot.
The big-bodied midfielder will no doubt be pushing for senior selection early next year, while fellow former Falcon Cooper Whyte also looked the goods in the mid-morning session.
The remainder of Geelong’s squad will return from the off-season break on Monday.
A solid group of Geelong’s first-to-fourth year players turned out at Deakin Oval in Waurn Ponds on Wednesday as pre-season training stepped up a gear in the summer heat, with a former Geelong Falcon impressing on the track.
A solid group of Geelong’s first-to-fourth year players turned out at Deakin Oval in Waurn Ponds on Wednesday as pre-season training stepped up a gear in the summer heat.
The Cats selection of draftees were put through their paces by a new-look coaching staff, including post-season acquisitions James Kelly and Matthew Egan.
Former Richmond and Adelaide goal sneak Tyson Stengle made his first public appearance as a Geelong player, while ex-Hawthorn ruckman Jonathan Ceglar was also working hard in the challenging conditions.
Geelong Falcons best-and-fairest Mitch Knevitt, taken by the Cats with selection number 25 in the AFL national draft, was the pick of the first-year players, barely missing a target with either foot.
The big-bodied midfielder will no doubt be pushing for senior selection early next year, while fellow former Falcon Cooper Whyte also looked the goods in the mid-morning session.
The remainder of Geelong’s squad will return from the off-season break on Monday.
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That can’t be right. Our bigfooty resident talent scouts say he’s a crap kick
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Just based on his testings he's got the running capacity to play senior footy early on, not to mention he can play a bit up forward too so he's not just a centre bounce or bust type. With a big pre-season he could have an early debut.
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That can’t be right. Our bigfooty resident talent scouts say he’s a crap kick
Hes not a crap kick at times he just attempts kicks that are more risky than he should which causes turnovers and makes people think hes a bad kick. This will improve with experience and more game knowledge that he will learn off our coaches..he is athletically outstanding and a very hard worker so that will help him.
From what I’ve seen there’s inconsistency in his ball drop. Some kicks look almost textbook, others he almost uses a 2 handed ball drop. Nice to hear that his session today went well - he strikes me as very much a work in progress who hopefully can continue to improve in many facets of the game including his kicking.
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Did they give him menzels number because he has also done an acl? Low blow lol.
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Not having a go at you here more just a generalisation of footy development circles.
We have to be careful when it comes to the "Once he fills out" sort of thing from players.
Not everyone is going to be Danger or Fyfe and put on 15-20kg of lean muscle tissue. Cripps similar, at his peak he just couldn't be tackled. I remember a particular play against the Bulldogs where Cripps just brushed Dal aside like he wasn't even there.
For Knevitt to do that he's going to need to put on minimum 10kg and more importantly know how to use that size. If he can we'll be well on our way.
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...not to mention one John Sharrock....who may also have done an ACL.....he certainly had knee issues....
Might show myself out now.....
Might show myself out now.....
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Miers does the same thing in regards to what he tries to bite off. Miers takes the low % option and causes the missed kick or turnover - Of course, Miers kicking style has its limitations as well opposed to Knevett - but the risk % of kicks completion is a different issue to kicking style - decision making can be fixed easier with experience IMO.
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Don't know if Knevitt has the talent of Menzel, but pretty confident he'll be a better bloke.
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I don't know if he did an ACL either he certainly had knee issues, but back then they were nearly all referred to as knee cartilage injuries.I carried something from U16 on it never came good and couldn't be repaired in Australia I was told never once did a specialist or doctor mention ACL or PCL back then.
Nope that's right,.. but we'll all wait and see, but so far so good, remembering he's just out of Underage Footy, like them all, it'll take em time to adjust to their new surroundings, training system, and workload.
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Is actually perfect timing. Really clear progression. We don't need them for 12 months the we will need a handful to step up, and then another handful after that. There's a really clear baton pass that gives everyone development space
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4 ACLs in 10 years will take its toll on anyone I had the highest respect for Dan's courage and determination.What did you see as his problem as a bloke?
Google Dan Menzel Court
He is not Mitch Duncan but few are. His 1 wood will be other aspects to his game just as it was for guys like Corey.
