FTA-TV The Sopranos

[Dixie Flatline]

As good a place as any for this

Given that David Chase directed this and they used a lot of the same people that worked on The Sopranos, it's pretty much canon that Meadow and AJ survived the hit on their dad. Meadow now runs the New Jersey mafia (she was going to marry Patrick Parisi, Patsy's son, she knew what her dad did for a living and was on friendly terms with her dad's crew) while AJ is still concerned about the effect of fossil fuels on the environment.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Damn, Jamie-Lynn Sigler is still smoking hot.

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I think there was a reason why Meadow was (perhaps) the last thing Tony sees; she is the apple of his eye, she represents the better angels of his nature. For all the confusion and complaints at the time, still the best final scene in any television show ever made IMHO.

Meadow is now older than her mother was when The Sopranos premiered. Food for thought.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

There is a tour you can do now in New Jersey that takes you to all the locations including the opportunity at the end of the day where you visit the Restaurant and sit in that booth. It’s on Viator. Book it now!

Joe Gannascoli, who played Vito the gay mobster, does in-home cooking events where he cooks dishes from and inspired by The Sopranos. Gannascoli was a professional chef before becoming an actor.

 

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[torq]

Meadow is now older than her mother was when The Sopranos premiered. Food for thought.

Thankfully she doesn’t take after Tony... or Carmela.

Actually I thought Jamie-Lynn Sigler was half-Italian but she’s Jewish. Either way she has that gorgeous Mediterranean complexion. I wonder if a Sopranos reboot with Meadow and A.J. was ever considered.

 

[Gasometer]

Joe Gannascoli, who played Vito the gay mobster, does in-home cooking events where he cooks dishes from and inspired by The Sopranos. Gannascoli was a professional chef before becoming an actor.

Link?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Alternatively, Tony killed Ralphie because he disrespected the Bing by killing Tracee (the line that Tony said about "she was a beautiful innocent creature, what did she ever do to you?" applies to Tracee as much as it could apply to the horse). After Chris and Tony dispose of Ralphie's remains, there's a shot of Tony looking at himself in the mirror at the Bing, and there's a photo of Tracee on the mirror.

By the way, apparently David Chase gave directions to Joey Pants that deliberately left it ambiguous as to whether Ralphie had killed Pie-O-My or not.

There's also a number of references to the Devil in the episode. The goat (as the companion animal) was commonly associated with the Devil, and Ralphie has a number of lines that are direct quotes from the Stones' Sympathy for the Devil in the episode.

Additionally, there's a theory that Paulie Walnuts set the fire that killed the horse as well as a theory that Ralphie didn't personally set the fire in the stables, but had someone else do it on his behalf.

I'm reading through Sopranos Autopsy as well as reading all the comments which is taking some time but I recently read through this episode and some subsequent ones.

The theory that Paulie lit the fire is a good one compounded by his saving the painting of pie O my from the fire and then feeling the guilt with the painted Tony staring at him.

I read a theory that goes beyond that, though, that Paulie was actually instrumental in planning the hit on Tony. He was already dealing with NY beyond Tony's back, he knew Tony suspected him of this when he was being questioned about the Ginny Sac joke on the Stugots, he knows you're only as good as your last envelope as he tells Chrissy, he already survived one war in the 70s by the skin of his balls etc

It was also Paulie who was told about 3 o'clock from Chris as well as Tony roping him into the hit, Tony seeing himself sitting with Paulie when Sil says "our true enemy has yet to reveal himself" in one of Tony's earlier dreams, the cat staring at Paulie in his last scene.

There's more to it than this but I found the theory interesting as I had never considered Paulie before but it kind of makes sense. The underlings organising the hits on their bosses to stop the war and save themselves.

There was also a theory that Chris had flipped just before the car accident and his death at Tony's hands - I'll have to look into that more because that seems far more circumspect but the hat Chris was wearing always bothered me (similar to the hat with the mic worn by the other associate who had flipped).

 

[Ma Xiao Long]

Alternatively, Tony killed Ralphie because he disrespected the Bing by killing Tracee (the line that Tony said about "she was a beautiful innocent creature, what did she ever do to you?" applies to Tracee as much as it could apply to the horse). After Chris and Tony dispose of Ralphie's remains, there's a shot of Tony looking at himself in the mirror at the Bing, and there's a photo of Tracee on the mirror.

I think that scene at the end is to remind us that Tony, like everybody else, didn't really give a shit about Tracee. He was there the night that Ralphie killed Tracee and punched him a couple times. He wasn't even sure that Ralphie killed the horse, but went crazy and beat him to death. When he heard that the horse was sick, he went down there in the rain and sat with her and sang to her. When Tracee was still alive and at the Bing, he didn't even want to talk to her. Just another example of Tony being a sociopath and caring about animals more than people.

Don't think Tracee was really a "beautiful innocent creature," anyway. There's a few lines in there that make you think otherwise.

 

[Kram]

Joe Gannascoli, who played Vito the gay mobster, does in-home cooking events where he cooks dishes from and inspired by The Sopranos. Gannascoli was a professional chef before becoming an actor.

Been meaning to try making some of his peasant food.

 

[kozi]

Interesting theories. On account of Tony’s huge soft spot for animals I don’t believe the Tracee one.

Paulie setting the fire is plausible. He had a reason, getting back at Ralph for shorting him on his end of the takings for the job where he gave Ralph’s guys the alarm codes. Funnily he was doing Ralph a big favour with the insurance collect. Or it could have been his plan all along to get Tony to flip out at Ralph playing on his love for animals and the horse in particular.

How much credit do we give Paulie? He isn’t exactly the sharpest tool.

 

[Kram]

I'd buy Paulie having something to do with Tony possibly getting killed more than Ralph actually having nothing to do with burning the horse, he seems pretty guilty in that scene haha.

 

[kozi]

Reading now that none of the actors were sure from the script who did it and Chase left it deliberately ambiguous and wouldn’t tell anyone.

Seems he created some worlds within worlds with the cast off set too.

 

[Big Flappy]

Food for thought

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I'd buy Paulie having something to do with Tony possibly getting killed more than Ralph actually having nothing to do with burning the horse, he seems pretty guilty in that scene haha.

Reading now that none of the actors were sure from the script who did it and Chase left it deliberately ambiguous and wouldn’t tell anyone.

Seems he created some worlds within worlds with the cast off set too.

Yeah reading the Sopranos Autopsy indicates Chase didn't tell Joey Pantaleone whether Ralph actually did it or not so he played it as if Ralph were innocent in his final scene. Pretty interesting and shows that it could have played out completely differently if he'd been told that Ralph did light the fire

 

[kozi]

I'd buy Paulie having something to do with Tony possibly getting killed more than Ralph actually having nothing to do with burning the horse, he seems pretty guilty in that scene haha.

I lit the fire T. Me and Ralphie split the cheque. You know Ma and her bills at Green Grove

 

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Link?

Former Sopranos Actor Holds Themed Parties As A Private Chef on Long Island

Long before his popular role in HBO's The Sopranos series, LI resident Joe Gannascoli was making his bones offscreen and in the kitchen as an accomplished chef.

www.longislandpress.com

Apparently it's run through the Tri-State Restaurant Club, according to this article.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

I'm reading through Sopranos Autopsy as well as reading all the comments which is taking some time but I recently read through this episode and some subsequent ones.

The theory that Paulie lit the fire is a good one compounded by his saving the painting of pie O my from the fire and then feeling the guilt with the painted Tony staring at him.

I read a theory that goes beyond that, though, that Paulie was actually instrumental in planning the hit on Tony. He was already dealing with NY beyond Tony's back, he knew Tony suspected him of this when he was being questioned about the Ginny Sac joke on the Stugots, he knows you're only as good as your last envelope as he tells Chrissy, he already survived one war in the 70s by the skin of his balls etc

It was also Paulie who was told about 3 o'clock from Chris as well as Tony roping him into the hit, Tony seeing himself sitting with Paulie when Sil says "our true enemy has yet to reveal himself" in one of Tony's earlier dreams, the cat staring at Paulie in his last scene.

There's more to it than this but I found the theory interesting as I had never considered Paulie before but it kind of makes sense. The underlings organising the hits on their bosses to stop the war and save themselves.

There was also a theory that Chris had flipped just before the car accident and his death at Tony's hands - I'll have to look into that more because that seems far more circumspect but the hat Chris was wearing always bothered me (similar to the hat with the mic worn by the other associate who had flipped).

Carlo had also flipped, due to his son being charged for ecstasy dealing, from recollection. If you will recall, he had seriously considered Adriana's plea to get out of the mafia and turn State's evidence with the Feds, and it was only his loyalty to Tony that meant he didn't flip. He had always been questioning his loyalty to Tony and that only increased after Silvio murdered Adriana on Tony's orders. Although it's not stated, I reckon that it's pretty clear that Chris had flipped and had agreed to wear a wire (which Adrian had refused to do).

 

[Kram]

Chris decided to ditch on Adriana when he got a good look at that struggling family at the gas station. He realised that if he a had to work for an honest living instead of being a criminal that's what his future was.

 

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Chris decided to ditch on Adriana when he got a good look at that struggling family at the gas station. He realised that if he a had to work for an honest living instead of being a criminal that's what his future was.

That's true.

The counterpoint is that Kelli Moltisanti was boring to him as bat-shit and he hated how his comrades kept undermining him at every turn (Paulie's nephew, Little Paulie, was ripping off Chris' father-in-law of the stolen power drills and Chris couldn't do anything about it except throw Little Paulie through a window).

The drunken rant at JT Dolan in "Walk Like a Man" before he shot him I think is pretty key to the Chris arc and potentially backs up the theory that Chris had flipped (I'm thinking of the line Christopher says to JT: "Do you have any idea, if I wanted, what I could do to these pricks? One phone call and it's all over, the whole ****ing castle comes down!" To me, that signifies that Christopher could make one phone call to the Feds, flip on his fellow mobsters and bring down Tony Soprano and the rest of them. Making a phone call to the New York mob wouldn't have the same dramatic effect. Yes, Chris was high on drugs and alcohol when he blurted this at JT, but I think it's an indication that Christopher was reconsidering his options. And then in the next episode, he starts wearing a baseball cap. I don't really recall him wearing one previously.

 

[HahnPremium]

Im a big sopranos fan. A friend suggested I take a look at the "talking sopranos" pods on youtube.
Fk me. What a load of trite and shite.
Bobby. An inarticulate clown. Imperioli- method acting his whole life and demeanour.
Their break downs of episodes would make Chase chortle and laugh uproariously.
Its good to reminisce- but there is such a desperate clinginess to this project which these individuals were obviously very lucky to be a part of extremely cringeworthy.
Zero insight. Zero information besides insignificant factoids and personal useless anecdotes which offer no interest.
An unnecessary addendum to a great legacy. Embarrassing .

 

[rumply]

Horrible take but each to their own.

I'm about half way through the pods & the highlights are the guests, some great interviews & insights there. Getting Chase on twice would suggest he is more than comfortable with the boys approach.

The only real issue I have with them is the advertising, otherwise they have been great fun.

There are much more detailed & in depth options out there for those that want it but none have provided the access to the cast & crew that Talking Sopranos has.

 

[HahnPremium]

Horrible take but each to their own.

I'm about half way through the pods & the highlights are the guests, some great interviews & insights there. Getting Chase on twice would suggest he is more than comfortable with the boys approach.

The only real issue I have with them is the advertising, otherwise they have been great fun.

There are much more detailed & in depth options out there for those that want it but none have provided the access to the cast & crew that Talking Sopranos has.

Twas a jest friend. Considering Im well aware that Imerioli actually directed a couple of episodes of this magnificent opus.
The advertising I agree jars the flow greatly . The access is first class. Only real criticism I have is that it sometimes plods into just direct rehashing of the episodes blow by blow on some casts.
Still prefer to have it than nothing at all.
Baccala kinda sucks tho. Be infintely more interesting if he played round with a model train set during the pods.

 

[Gasometer]

Im a big sopranos fan. A friend suggested I take a look at the "talking sopranos" pods on youtube.
Fk me. What a load of trite and shite.
Bobby. An inarticulate clown. Imperioli- method acting his whole life and demeanour.
Their break downs of episodes would make Chase chortle and laugh uproariously.
Its good to reminisce- but there is such a desperate clinginess to this project which these individuals were obviously very lucky to be a part of extremely cringeworthy.
Zero insight. Zero information besides insignificant factoids and personal useless anecdotes which offer no interest.
An unnecessary addendum to a great legacy. Embarrassing .

So reading between the lines I take it that you weren’t overly impressed?

 

[kozi]

Well this all but puts it to bed. The guy caught Chase at a candid moment, to my knowledge the first time he’s openly said Tony “got it”.

 

[Gasometer]

Gee reading page 1 and 2 and my posts … it’s like reading a Ghost entry…wtf…I feel very old