Play Nice Scott Morrison 2.0 - How Long? Part 8 - Lose Unit. Game Over, Bulldozer. Cont in Part 9

[QuietB]

Part 5 is here:

Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

Continued in Part 6. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-the-coal-man.1290651/

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Part 6 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 6 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/

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Part 7 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 7 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/ Part 6 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-prosperity-theology-the-coal-man-his-bootlickers.1290651/

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Part 9 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison in the Multiverse of Ministries.

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/ Part 6 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-prosperity-theology-the-coal-man-his-bootlickers.1290651/ Part 7 is here...

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[nut]

Terry Mcrann complaining that the only reason for the take over of AGL is “they want to make money” lol…

 

[madmug]

And history will repeat, nobody wants Albo as Prime Minister!

Not sure its a repeat of history, after all Albo hasn't stood for PM before!!

Tough choice though, Albo or 3 more years with the ukulele player.

 

[Kram]

Not sure about speechless, but he's clearly having a stroke.....

Can you have a stroke from laughing too much?

How is the bitcoin going anyway, I could imagine sitting on the Whitsundays somewhere on a deck chair with a lap top trading the stuff with all the heavy hitters.

Not that flash for the environment though...

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Can you have a stroke from laughing too much?

How is the bitcoin going anyway, I could imagine sitting on the Whitsundays somewhere on a deck chair with a lap top trading the stuff with all the heavy hitters.

Not that flash for the environment though...

Same as the last time you asked (a week or two ago), I don't hold any bitcoin.

Not sure why you keep trying to have a measuring contest with your investments, it's quite odd.

 

[Kram]

Same as the last time you asked (a week or two ago), I don't hold any bitcoin.

Not sure why you keep trying to have a measuring contest with your investments, it's quite odd.

Well at least you and I don't around gloating and abusing people then run for the hills like ole mate robin when people notice it's made up!

 

[Mick F]

Same as the last time you asked (a week or two ago), I don't hold any bitcoin.

Not sure why you keep trying to have a measuring contest with your investments, it's quite odd.

It’s 1.30 in Mikanos.

 

[sherb]

And history will repeat, nobody wants Albo as Prime Minister!

I do.

(There's the problem with talking in absolutes).

 

[Xtreme]

Not sure its a repeat of history, after all Albo hasn't stood for PM before!!

Tough choice though, Albo or 3 more years with the ukulele player.

History repeating like Shorten being a shoe-in, only to get thrashed on election day.
Maybe he should learn more songs like Stairway to Heaven, or Smells like teen spirit, or Who let the dogs out ?

You have very low standards.

I'd vote for Tania Plibersek over Albo!

 

[Rotayjay]

I posted a link recently showing now anti-Chinese opinion in Australia is higher than anti-Muslim or Arab opinion. We know the Liberals have won multiple elections on anti-Muslim/migrant campaigns. We know Morrison was one of the biggest proponents of the anti-Muslim campaign in the Liberals:

Calls for Morrison's head in 'anti-Muslim' row

Tony Abbott stands by his immigration spokesman Scott Morrison amid calls for him to be sacked over alleged comments about adopting anti-Muslim policies.

www.abc.net.au

There are many more Chinese-Australians than Muslim Australians, so if racists gonna racism then they have more targets.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Australia doesn't merely have a problem with racism. Racism is in Australia's very DNA.

 

[Schneebly11]

And history will repeat, nobody wants Albo as Prime Minister!

Even ignoring the obvious trolling comment, from the general politically uniformed middle ground that is Australia there doesn’t seem to be much negative feeling towards Albo out there, at the moment. No doubt the right will try their hardest to portray him as Communist, but Albo’s had the advantage of a pandemic sucking up all the airtime to allow the spotlight to be shone on ScoMo and the Premiers, and they have been judged as up to the task. Or not.

Unlike pre 2019 election when the right wing and the rest of the media made Shorten and his tax policies a bigger election issue than Morrison. Shorten had always had a bad rep for his Union background and seeming to be a backstabbing schemer. Albo has had little attention, so they decided to bring out the heavy artillery on him with only a short time left.

History will tell if this campaign is successful, but in terms of how Shorten was perceived 2019 vs Albo now Albo is in a better position for the moment.

 

[madmug]

History repeating like Shorten being a shoe-in, only to get thrashed on election day.
Maybe he should learn more songs like Stairway to Heaven, or Smells like teen spirit, or Who let the dogs out ?



I'd vote for Tania Plibersek over Albo!

Albo v Scumo is nothing like Shorten v Scumo.

We've had 3 years of Scumo.

We certainly don't want him to destroy any more songs with that stupid f$%kn ukulele.

 

[Xtreme]

Albo v Scumo is nothing like Shorten v Scumo.

We've had 3 years of Scumo.

And we'll have at least 3 more thanks to the amazing voting public!!

 

[Schneebly11]

History repeating like Shorten being a shoe-in, only to get thrashed on election day.

Did you consider these points?:

One, this time Albo, in my general conversation with the politically unaligned, doesn’t have as much negative attention directed onto him as Shorten did? It almost seemed that Shorten was being judged harsher after 6 years as opposition leader than Scoko was after 8 months as PM.

Two, Albo doesn’t have a controversial policy like Neg gearing or Franking credits he’s putting front and centre for his opponents to attack pre election.

Three, as opposed to 2019 we’ve now had 3 years of ScoMo and incompetence to view first hand?

On the polling issue

Opinion polling for the 2019 Australian federal election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Check them out from close to Election Day, the ALP suffered a drop off in the last weeks of the campaign, and preferences flows helped Liberals just a bit more than predicted. Enough to lift the Coalition just over the line. The polls were only 2% off the Coalition’s primary vote.

However this time polls are showing the LNP primary vote around 34-35%. They can’t win office without 40% primary vote. So even if the polls were as off as last time the Libs are still falling short. Now this could change by May (with the Libs red scare campaign it probably will) but there’s still a lot of work to be done.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Did you consider these points?:

One, this time Albo, in my general conversation with the politically unaligned, doesn’t have as much negative attention directed onto him as Shorten did? It almost seemed that Shorten was being judged harsher after 6 years as opposition leader than Scoko was after 8 months as PM.

Two, Albo doesn’t have a controversial policy like Neg gearing or Franking credits he’s putting front and centre for his opponents to attack pre election.

Three, as opposed to 2019 we’ve now had 3 years of ScoMo and incompetence to view first hand?

On the polling issue

Opinion polling for the 2019 Australian federal election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Check them out from close to Election Day, the ALP suffered a drop off in the last weeks of the campaign, and preferences flows helped Liberals just a bit more than predicted. Enough to lift the Coalition just over the line. The polls were only 2% off the Coalition’s primary vote.

However this time polls are showing the LNP primary vote around 34-35%. They can’t win office without 40% primary vote. So even if the polls were as off as last time the Libs are still falling short. Now this could change by May (with the Libs red scare campaign it probably will) but there’s still a lot of work to be done.

Why would you reason with that barracker?

 

[NSWCROW]

I take old mate Kram momentarily off Ignore to see if she is still insisting she somehow has the right to know the private details of my investment portfolio and yep... right on cue.

Been going on several years now.

Very weird.

BF attracts the full gamut of humanity.

Ah well, anyway diversity is supposed to be a good thing.

At least he's not simpimg for newscorp for once

 

[Kram]

At least he's not simpimg for newscorp for once

 

[Punt rd end]

 

[Evolved1]

It doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand Tony Abbott. He's part-ideologue, part-opportunist, and was adaptable enough to switch from one to the other when conditions sutied.

While he was opposition leader, he played the opportunist. If he saw an excuse to attack the ALP, he took it. He wasn't doing it for the sake for advancing the IPA agenda, he was doing it because he saw an opportunity to score some political points. In his mind, the best way of doing that was to oppose everything the ALP said and did.

During the election campaign, he recognised that his best way of winning the election was simply to make out that he'd just offer a slightly different but more stable version of the Rudd-Gillard government, and behaved accordingly with his 'no cuts' and 'stop the boats' pledge. The 'no cuts' pledge was made to reassure the public that, far from advancing the IPA's agenda, he was only interested in offering more stable government than the ALP could provide.

Not long after he got into power, however, he played the ideologue. To that end, his 2014 budget effectively contradicted his 'no cuts' pledge, and it was all downhill from there.



I'm not accusing you of directing this at me per se, but I will note that ScoMo was aided significantly in his 2019 victory by two demographic groups - the 35-44 age subset and the 65+ age subset.

I doubt the 35-44 age subset was influenced greatly by Murdoch; it's more likely that they were working families who needed every cent they could get to put their kids through school and so were scared off by the ALP's proposed franking credits reforms.

I do maintain that Murdoch would have a substantial influence on the 65+ age subset, however, because they grew up in an age when the mainstream media were 1) considered more trustworthy and 2) the only game in town. Granted, he'd really be influencing the 65+ year olds who already vote LNP, but there are quite a lot of those, and I've encountered more than a few of them.

Also, let's be honest - the older you are, the more set you become in your ways. Your average 65+ year old would be quite set in their ways and reasonably content with receiving news from Murdoch and the commercial news networks, whether that be from the internet, television or social media (the older the person, the less likely they are to have embraced social media).

Granted, the 65+ age subset are made up of retirees who also would have been scared off by the ALP's proposed franking credits reforms.

Both can be true at once.

It's counterintuitive to think that 65 year olds are more naive than 20 year olds. Do you see yourself being more naive when you're 60 years old?

 

[Evolved1]

F wit Marshall in South Australia doing a but laybuh for ambulance ramping. "They started it!"

Yeah and look how wonderful it is now under your "leadership" even when covid wasn't an issue.

Libs. Gotta love 'em.

Are the ALP states fairing better?

 

[Evolved1]

'Us' didn't vote for him.

'They' did.

Yeah, but did 'us' vote for Latham?

 

[Off The Couch]

Are the ALP states fairing better?

Not here in WA they aren’t and they were critical while in opposition and knew what needed to be done.

Think health services are a major issue across the country. Bit more federal money spent there rather than on tanks and subs that are useless to us anyway

 

[Fire]

It's counterintuitive to think that 65 year olds are more naive than 20 year olds. Do you see yourself being more naive when you're 60 years old?

In certain areas yes I imagine we all will be. The world changes and we won't all keep up with where it's going.

Another example, there's a reason why the batshit right wing conspiracy movement has sucked more boomers in than anyone else, and it's not because there's any truth there for them to see.

They didn't grow up with the internet, so never learned how to critically analyze what the see on it. Rather, they have a culture of believing what the read in print, because when they were younger, newspapers generally curated what they printed.

 

[kranky al]

And we'll have at least 3 more thanks to the amazing voting public!!

Also GO EAGLES - bound to win in 2022, i know we have heaps of injuries but it doesnt matter because we are the best footy team in the world!!!!

 

[Evolved1]

Not here in WA they aren’t and they were critical while in opposition and knew what needed to be done.

Think health services are a major issue across the country. Bit more federal money spent there rather than on tanks and subs that are useless to us anyway

How much responsibility falls back on the state?

 

[Evolved1]

In certain areas yes I imagine we all will be. The world changes and we won't all keep up with where it's going.

Another example, there's a reason why the batshit right wing conspiracy movement has sucked more boomers in than anyone else, and it's not because there's any truth there for them to see.

They didn't grow up with the internet, so never learned how to critically analyze what the see on it. Rather, they have a culture of believing what the read in print, because when they were younger, newspapers generally curated what they printed.

Those are interesting claims.

Intuitively I would have thought our elders were more accustomed to better news resources, and therefore be better informed and more capable of critically evaluating what they see and read.

Youth seem to rely on social media as their news source. That goes for both left and right.