Review Round 2, 2023 - Brisbane Lions vs. Melbourne

[HereIGoAgain]

I'm not worried tbh. If he were still playing on the ball despite his age I'd be very worried, but playing as a forward is the definition of not being overly reliant on him.

Probably should have phrased that slightly differently. More concerned about the reliance on Zorko to provide the lift that he did last night for the whole season rather than his positional play. Bailey is the heir apparent to give us that zip.

 

[Elixuh]

I love how quickly the Dees fans abandoned booing him. They clearly came with a coordinated plan to absolutely give it to him and by quarter time they were stone cold silent.

Someone on here made a pretty valid point, the whole Petty thing has actually helped us and hindered Melb a bit I reckon. Zorko had been getting sucked in to all the trash talk but since that incident has been super switched on and head in the contest at all times.

 

[rye]

Someone on here made a pretty valid point, the whole Petty thing has actually helped us and hindered Melb a bit I reckon. Zorko had been getting sucked in to all the trash talk but since that incident has been super switched on and head in the contest at all times.

petty looked like a potato out there as well

zorko broke him

 

[Hollow Knight]

Someone on here made a pretty valid point, the whole Petty thing has actually helped us and hindered Melb a bit I reckon. Zorko had been getting sucked in to all the trash talk but since that incident has been super switched on and head in the contest at all times.

Yeah it's almost like the incident helped Zorko burst through the extreme wall of obnoxiousness and then re-emerged back on the other side, like Pac-Man.

Now he's just focussed on ballin' while Melbourne are still trying to "get even"... I daresay, being petty.

The resolve on Zorko's face after they sniped him last night was cool. In previous years you would have seen the steam coming from his ears, but this time he just reset and kept going.

I think shedding the added weight of the captaincy is going to be good for him, and pleasingly isn't going to stop him leading from the front on field.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Grant Thomas is a charlatan who’s made a career out of convincing stupid people that he’s intelligent.

 

[FLVanLandingham]

Does anyone know if Fages even had a post-match presser last night?
AFL site + Fox Footy youtube has the Melb one, both Pies and Power, but no Lions presser.

Guess I'll have to search for his radio interview this morning to get his post-match thoughts.

edit: I guess I should have mosied on down to the press thread. All info for me there nicely laid out

 

[Elixuh]

Yeah it's almost like the incident helped Zorko burst through the extreme wall of obnoxiousness and then re-emerged back on the other side, like Pac-Man.

Now he's just focussed on ballin' while Melbourne are still trying to "get even"... I daresay, being petty.

The resolve on Zorko's face after they sniped him last night was cool. In previous years you would have seen the steam coming from his ears, but this time he just reset and kept going.

I think shedding the added weight of the captaincy is going to be good for him, and pleasingly isn't going to stop him leading from the front on field.

Yes I think this last bit is key. That added pressure of needing to constantly fly the flag as captain is gone and he can focus on his game and providing ad hoc leadership.

 

[Section 5]

They wouldn’t have sent him back out if it was likely a scaphoid (or another fracture to be honest). You can tell a scaphoid fracture generally by pressing over the anatomical snuff box, if it’s not sore there then it’s not that.

To me it just looked like he jarred he’s wrist, he didn’t really look that hampered when he came back out

I played the next two weeks before it just got too sore.
Mine was not a fracture as such. The injury was in 1971 and not picked up in a normal Xray they used in those days.
After playing two more games went off to a specialist
Have no idea what the correct medical term was regarding the scaphoid injury.
Quite a lot of small chips (off the scaphoid) were floating around in the area causing issues along with pain of course.
Had a request 10 years later from the surgeon to redo scans and check my wrist movement and restrictions etc.

 

[Elixuh]

Does anyone know if Fages even had a post-match presser last night?
AFL site + Fox Footy youtube has the Melb one, both Pies and Power, but no Lions presser.

Guess I'll have to search for his radio interview this morning to get his post-match thoughts.

He criticised the AFL so I think the AFL may have legitimately hit delete.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Grant Thomas is a charlatan who’s made a career out of convincing stupid people that he’s intelligent.

Was the perfect coach for a charlatan organisation like St Kilda that has spent 150 years convincing stupid people they are a real football club.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Always had a chip on both shoulders.

Not liked or respected.

He coached Warrnambool in the Hampden League to four Premierships, which is more than enough reason to not like him.

 

[martinson]

Zorks had to fly the flag when we were no good with very little physical back up from anyone else.

Hard to think how he would be regarded had he played for a big Melbourne club but one would think genuine legend of the game.

He wore the crown of captaincy with a lot of passion and responsibility and I'm so glad he'll get a year ( or two ??) of just playing without that burden.

 

[Gadzorks]

The losing team works harder than the team on a roll so the extra break will always favour the losing team.

 

[Thomasno]

I love how quickly the Dees fans abandoned booing him. They clearly came with a coordinated plan to absolutely give it to him and by quarter time they were stone cold silent.

I found that funny too. Almost as funny as when the home crowd absolutely gave it to Petty when he made a fool of himself in the 3rd quarter

 

[Hollow Knight]

 

[Thomasno]

I played the next two weeks before it just got too sore.
Mine was not a fracture as such. The injury was in 1971 and not picked up in a normal Xray they used in those days.
After playing two more games went off to a specialist
Have no idea what the correct medical term was regarding the scaphoid injury.
Quite a lot of small chips (off the scaphoid) were floating around in the area causing issues along with pain of course.
Had a request 10 years later from the surgeon to redo scans and check my wrist movement and restrictions etc.

The snuff box tenderness is pretty highly sensitive for scaphoid fracture, it might not be sore moving around but if you press down firmly there and it’s not painful, you’re probably in the clear.

At least that’s my understanding of it from my brief time in ortho world

 

[dlanod]

That’s kind of worse isn’t it?

No?

 

[Hollow Knight]

I found that funny too. Almost as funny as when the home crowd absolutely gave it to Petty when he made a fool of himself in the 3rd quarter

I haven't watched the replay yet and was on the other side of the ground, but was it Petty who was left sprawling and humiliated from an ankle-breaking sidestep from 31 year old Jack Gunston? If so...

I enjoyed him standing in the goal square as a running Zorko drilled one right over his head.

 

[POBT]

I played the next two weeks before it just got too sore.
Mine was not a fracture as such. The injury was in 1971 and not picked up in a normal Xray they used in those days.
After playing two more games went off to a specialist
Have no idea what the correct medical term was regarding the scaphoid injury.
Quite a lot of small chips (off the scaphoid) were floating around in the area causing issues along with pain of course.
Had a request 10 years later from the surgeon to redo scans and check my wrist movement and restrictions etc.

Hopefully, clinical diagnosis and treatment has improved in the 52 years since you hurt your hand.

 

[Jivlain]

Surely you are being sarcastic. We beat the team who was 3rd on the ladder and we were 15th. We won and they lost. I think that is a good thing. Come finals, if we are in front of Melbourne or any team by 40 points with 12 minutes to go in the last quarter, I will be beside myself with joy, because the circumstances of last night will most likely never be repeated.

The only way last night was a ‘perfect test’ was if we were training for the future eventuality that the lights fail in the last quarter of a night game, where we are leading by a match winning margin and the side has to leave the arena for a lengthy break prior to a restart. In that case, you are right there may have been “learnings” from last night, otherwise the final 12 minutes last night were completely irrelevant. Just to cover all bases though, maybe we need to hire a Specialist Power Outage and Associated Mishap Restart Coach.

I think it's reasonable to take lessons about, say, focus and closing out a game from that period. And we've got work to do in that department.

But the net effect is we've got a point to fix on with those learnings while also winning the game and getting 4 premiership points. Best way to learn that lesson.

 

[Brett C]

Was it not the same for both teams?

We had so much to prove after last week not to mention 4 years of consistently crumbling against top teams

 

[Dalions]

Dunks with 42 pressure acts

 

[JasRulz63]

Dunks with 42 pressure acts

McCarthy with the second highest pressure acts for us with 21. Both highlights the ridiculousness of Dunkley's number, but also why McCarthy is in the side given it's a stat that generally favours midfielders because of repeat stoppages.

 

[Dalions]

McCarthy with the second highest pressure acts for us with 21. Both highlights the ridiculousness of Dunkley's number, but also why McCarthy is in the side given it's a stat that generally favours midfielders because of repeat stoppages.

That’s why he gets votes in the BnF.

 

[Viceregal]

Apologies if already mentioned (only read up to end of page 3 so far)

There is one very effective learnings from the first two games.

Coach to players:
When the lights are off in your head you get all of Port and the last 10 mins of Melb - you are the destroyed
When the lights are on in your head you get most of the Melb game - you are the destroyers
Which was more satisfying? Which made the training the week after more fulfilling? Which one is less embarressing?
You may win or you may lose but whether the light is on or off ye Lions that choice is 100% up to you.

A good phase two would be that anyone who cannot learn to manually adjust their personal light settings should get used to the grounds used by the VFL...