Preview Changes v Hawthorn at Launceston, Sat 1.45pm

[SunnyBoner]

Yep, in the 3-4 years that we have been shizen, we've never copped what Hawthorn have copped this week.

This is a joke right?

 

[shinboner magic]

“Genuinely personal”: Will Mitchell/Clarkson issues surface in Round 3?

“I think Mitchell genuinely, genuinely, on behalf of Hawthorn, would like to win this game.”

www.sen.com.au

Hopefully Mitchell coaches from the bench as well
Clarko can go snap him in half

 

[Tectonic]

As good a time as any for Sleevo/Powell/WiPhi to have a breakout game

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Definitely feel like a Hawk bushwhack is coming. Their young midfield can match ours in the clearances. Need to force turnovers with our zone before they get pace on the game.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Not a single Age "expert" is tipping the Hawks. Must be eons since we've received 100% of the votes for a game.

 

[Makeshift Park]

There is too much pessimism in this thread.
Sure, we might not yet be capable of 60+ point annihilations.
But let’s compare some stats from the season so far. We beat the Hawks for clearances: they win 2 for every 3 we win. Our offensive work is more effective than theirs: for every five we convert, they convert three. We’ve been playing a more effective, high pressure brand of footy, laying more tackles, more one percenters, more intercepts.
And most starkly, our ball movement across the ground, and our transition from offensive to defensive structures passes the eye test, unlike theirs.
It would take something pretty incredible for the hawks to win this.

 

[DuckYeah]

Kingy just ripped their game plan a new a** hole on 360. Must have been 8 examples of them taking that corridor kick when it wasn’t even remotely on, leaving them completely exposed.

Will be interesting to see if they reign that in this week.

We gave them the blue print on what no to do in 2021-2022… then they go and do the exact same shit in 2023. Thats funny.

 

[DuckYeah]

Definitely feel like a Hawk bushwhack is coming. Their young midfield can easily match ours. Need to force turnovers with our zone before they get pace on the game.

Their young midfield is no where close to ours. We have the 2nd best mid in the comp running round for us. We’ll smash em in the middle.

 

[TheBigHorne]

Not a single Age "expert" is tipping the Hawks. Must be eons since we've received 100% of the votes for a game.

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Maybe last year vs the Top-up WC game?

 

[Disco Dew]

We gave them the blue print on what no to do in 2021-2022… then they go and do the exact same s**t in 2023. Thats funny.

They saw that the blueprint gives you multiple number 1 picks. The hawks can afford to be complete shit for a couple of years.

 

[Horizons_00]

There is too much pessimism in this thread.
Sure, we might not yet be capable of 60+ point annihilations.
But let’s compare some stats from the season so far. We beat the Hawks for clearances: they win 2 for every 3 we win. Our offensive work is more effective than theirs: for every five we convert, they convert three. We’ve been playing a more effective, high pressure brand of footy, laying more tackles, more one percenters, more intercepts.
And most starkly, our ball movement across the ground, and our transition from offensive to defensive structures passes the eye test, unlike theirs.
It would take something pretty incredible for the hawks to win this.

We have trust issues….

 

[giantroo]

 

[Mav]

As good a time as any for Sleevo/Powell/WiPhi to have a breakout game

I reckon Powell has been pretty bloody good the first two weeks.

 

[Farthers]

There is too much pessimism in this thread.
Sure, we might not yet be capable of 60+ point annihilations.
But let’s compare some stats from the season so far. We beat the Hawks for clearances: they win 2 for every 3 we win. Our offensive work is more effective than theirs: for every five we convert, they convert three. We’ve been playing a more effective, high pressure brand of footy, laying more tackles, more one percenters, more intercepts.
And most starkly, our ball movement across the ground, and our transition from offensive to defensive structures passes the eye test, unlike theirs.
It would take something pretty incredible for the hawks to win this.

I've been burnt too many times before. It's going to take a while before I feel confident in games where we should win on paper. I fully expect the Hawks to come out of the blocks with intensity.

 

[Mav]

AFL putting this game and the game v Poort, plus changing out GF opponent, shows that they really don’t want us to have a rivalry.

 

[outwecome2play]

Only one change for me.

Phillips in for Simpkin.

 

[goalieboy82]

Coach Emeritus Scamper

and
Coach Sissy Rose:

both say the following...

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Their young midfield is no where close to ours. We have the 2nd best mid in the comp running round for us. We’ll smash em in the middle.

They matched a very good Swans midfield just last week. The hawks issues lie in their ball movement and their other lines.

 

[Ligma]

We should be fine, as much as hawthorn need this win, I think our structure and system will prevail.

Clarko will address the potential tag all will be good

 

[Sphynx]

They matched a very good Swans midfield just last week. The hawks issues lie in their ball movement and their other lines.

Hawthorn are in the bottom 3 for contested ball stats.

Their stoppages clearance numbers are diabolical considering they are going alright at center clearances.

 

[giantroo]

Kingy just ripped their game plan a new a** hole on 360. Must have been 8 examples of them taking that corridor kick when it wasn’t even remotely on, leaving them completely exposed.

Will be interesting to see if they reign that in this week.

‘You’ll break them’: Hawks coach questioned over ‘arrogant’ tactics that ‘haven’t worked in 10 years’

‘You’ll break them’: Hawks coach’s ‘arrogant’ tactics ‘haven’t worked in 10 years’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[ferball]

I never suggested we were younger than anyone. My main point was that throwing a bunch of names on a piece paper and calculating the average age isn’t a true reflection of the youth of the side and which age demographic are actually giving the most output.

In 12 months Ziebell, Goldstein, Hall, Greenwood, Shiels and Howe may not be on our list. If they were to be mostly gone, it’s not going to leave a massive hole to fill. In fact there probably won’t be any hole to fill as our talented young players develop and get more experience.

Compare that to Hawthorn losing Gunston, Mitchell, O’meara, Shiels, McEvoy, etc, it has clearly left a big hole. Not just with output on game day, but with leadership, experience, structures, etc.


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We lose the bolded players and that's a big hole in the side as it stands right now. Alot of what you say depends on how the guys below (age wise) Jy and LDU step up.

 

[Sphynx]

We lose the bolded players and that's a big hole in the side as it stands right now. Alot of what you say depends on how the guys below (age wise) Jy and LDU step up.

I don't think they are massive holes.

Clarko/Shiels are on record as saying he's likely going to step aside and back into the VFL at some point this season when guys like Wardlaw/Phillips are ready anyway.

When McKay is back, I think Corr begins to play the Ziebell role anyway.

Greenwood is a different case, but I genuinely could see Goater play that big inside mid role in 3-4 years for us.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

We should be fine, as much as hawthorn need this win, I think our structure and system will prevail.

Clarko will address the potential tag all will be good

Our defensive zone lends itself to magnifying the Hawks problem with ball movement. Should be interesting as I am sure Mitchell will look at scoring from clearances to compensate.

Hawthorn are in the bottom 3 for contested ball stats.

Their stoppages clearance numbers are diabolical considering they are going alright at center clearances.

I know, but they were even for around the ground clearances last week. Just something to be wary of with a young team. Good chance to build some consistency and put other teams to the sword.

 

[ferball]

A microchip in the footy. LOL.