Review Round 3, 2023 - Bulldogs vs. Brisbane Lions

[mpal6]

Hippy was a bit of a swingman before he was drafted. From memory he was an u18 All Australian centre half back.

I'm all for trialling him in defence.

I'd prefer Hipwood plays reserves, kick a few bags and comes back with renewed confidence. Andrews, Payne, Joyce are just finding their feet together. I think we need to steer away from squeezing players in to their non-preferred roles as they are some kind of stars who need to be in best 22. I'd argue Andrews new lease of form is due to him not having to look after all the talls around him and Joyce/Payne are being competent about doing their jobs and releasing Andrews to do what he does best. I think adding Hipwood in there would take things backwards.

Voss appears to have implemented a good plan since he took charge for Blues - you play a role in 2s, you'll get that specific role in 1s when it becomes available. You won't be squeezed off just to fit in some other high profile player. We need a plan similar to that so the likes of Ah Chee, Prior and Deven can go more specialized in reserves and keep their spots in best 22.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I'd prefer Hipwood plays reserves, kick a few bags and comes back with renewed confidence. Andrews, Payne, Joyce are just finding their feet together. I think we need to steer away from squeezing players in to their non-preferred roles as they are some kind of stars who need to be in best 22. I'd argue Andrews new lease of form is due to him not having to look after all the talls around him and Joyce/Payne are being competent about doing their jobs and releasing Andrews to do what he does best. I think adding Hipwood in there would take things backwards.

Voss appears to have implemented a good plan since he took charge for Blues - you play a role in 2s, you'll get that specific role in 1s when it becomes available. You won't be squeezed off just to fit in some other high profile player. We need a plan similar to that so the likes of Ah Chee, Prior and Deven can go more specialized in reserves and keep their spots in best 22.

The second paragraph is exactly what we do. Hence the amount of time Dev spent in the forward line last year in the reserves

 

[M Malice]

Is it worth watching the replay or should I just watch Seinfeld repeats?

From reading part of this thread and looking at the votes we have a lot of good players not playing up to their ability this season eg. Clugga, Berry, Starc, Joe, Zac, Linc, Charlie, Hippy.

 

[Lace Out]

Is it worth watching the replay or should I just watch Seinfeld repeats?

From reading part of this thread and looking at the votes we have a lot of good players not playing up to their ability this season eg. Clugga, Berry, Starc, Joe, Zac, Linc, Charlie, Hippy.

Go The Puffy Shirt

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Is it worth watching the replay or should I just watch Seinfeld repeats?

From reading part of this thread and looking at the votes we have a lot of good players not playing up to their ability this season eg. Clugga, Berry, Starc, Joe, Zac, Linc, Charlie, Hippy.

How's your tolerance for pain?

 

[mpal6]

The second paragraph is exactly what we do. Hence the amount of time Dev spent in the forward line last year in the reserves

That's good then.
We won't see Hipwood in defense as part of trying to squeeze him in.

 

[a mayes ing]

I reckon Hippy should watch videos of Cameron. He used to be a key forward that relied on his athleticism, run forward, turn back and outrun his opponents. He has changed his game to a more leading and marking player but still using that athleticism. Hippy needs to change as we are getting the ball into our forwad line too slow meaning our forward 50 is usually really packed.

 

[luthor]

Hipwood should play wing.

 

[M Malice]

Hipwood should play wing.

Is he fit enough?

 

[LongLion]

Thought we gave Oskar Baker far too much latitude, number one for score involvements and number one for metres gained. He would have been primed for this one given we didn’t take him in his draft year or last year when he was cut by the Demon’s.

This. Yep

 

[LongLion]

Some thoughts on our season so far. I'm a glass half full person so work with me here.

1st game. Port & Hinkley getting smashed in the media. They got them self primed to smash us. Just like Dad said in his interview.

2nd game. Lions smashed in the media and playing at home. Hold big grudges against Melbourne. Lot of talent in our team. We win but it is a hard physical game early in the season leaving the boys sore.

3rd game. Doggies & Bevo smashed in the media. They got them self primed to smash us and we are still sore from last weeks game. Coupled with a changing game plan, new players still syncing and we are off the mark and lose by a couple of goals away.

Pies game coming up. Lions switched on. Game on. Not sure we will win but confident we will have a go. I don't think our season is finished or a disaster yet.

 

[pulpdriver]

Gave me a chuckle.

There is a Simpsons meme where Lenny tells Homer’s co-workers at the nuclear power plant: “Get ready, everybody, he’s about to do something stupid”. There must be plenty of Lions fans who feel the same way about Joe Daniher. Unlike Homer, Daniher is prodigiously talented, but he is prone to too many moments of madness for a player of his ability and experience. Teammates can sympathise with a bout of yips in front of goal, but they are less forgiving when, with the game on the line, they make position and are torched by a turn-and-burn Hail Mary from outside 50. Coach Chris Fagan has foreshadowed an uncomfortable review on Daniher’s game.

Dogs bark on Joe’s dirty night, Crows win SA bragging rights, and Cats fall to bottom of ladder

There was plenty on the line in round three, including a coaching master going head-to-head against his one-time protégé. Elsewhere, the Bulldogs regained their bark but a big-name Lion is under the microscope, the Crows took bragging rights in the Showdown, and the reigning premiers slumped to...

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[M Malice]

Gave me a chuckle.

Dogs bark on Joe’s dirty night, Crows win SA bragging rights, and Cats fall to bottom of ladder

There was plenty on the line in round three, including a coaching master going head-to-head against his one-time protégé. Elsewhere, the Bulldogs regained their bark but a big-name Lion is under the microscope, the Crows took bragging rights in the Showdown, and the reigning premiers slumped to...

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Who is/was more enigmatic Joe Daniher or Jared Brennan?

 

[Nathan Barley]

I think Danihers only contested mark this year has been that one handed mark against Port. That isn't good enough

 

[pulpdriver]

Who is/was more enigmatic Joe Daniher or Jared Brennan?

Damn, that's a tough one. Probably go with Brennan just. Spent the better part of a decade thinking "THIS is his year" every pre-season.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Damn, that's a tough one. Probably go with Brennan just. Spent the better part of a decade thinking "THIS is his year" every pre-season.

I guess Daniher has had a year near his potential, unlike Brennan

 

[Nathan Barley]

Not so worried about Joe. He's still getting 4 shots on goal a game. Joe out of form is a lot better than Hippy out of form

 

[Dalions]

Not so worried about Joe. He's still getting 4 shots on goal a game. Joe out of form is a lot better than Hippy out of form

Need to get the ball in quick to Joe.
Slow ball movement and he has no chance because he is more likely to give away a free kick than kick a goal.

 

[Dalions]

Vid in this link shows the segment showing how Hippy is constantly in no mans land.

‘You’re getting it wrong’: Lions’ big dilemma exposed amid ‘next to useless’ claims

‘You’re getting it wrong’: Lions’ big dilemma exposed amid ‘next to useless’ claims

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That looks to me as though it has been a directive to play that role.
The problem that I see is that it should have been Lincoln McCarthy out there to run back in and get front and centre if the ball hits the ground not Hippy.
Reverse the roles and put a small out there and the structure looks fine.
Can’t see how that is Hippy’s fault other than that he needs to get back a bit quicker rather than just labouring in.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Vid in this link shows the segment showing how Hippy is constantly in no mans land.

‘You’re getting it wrong’: Lions’ big dilemma exposed amid ‘next to useless’ claims

‘You’re getting it wrong’: Lions’ big dilemma exposed amid ‘next to useless’ claims

www.foxsports.com.au

2 examples? These videos are bloody pointless

First one looked reasonable drawing his opponent away but slow movement meant we couldn't capitalise. Second looked a bit worse he perhaps should've realised his role then was to crash a pack and set it up for the smalls

Wonder what it would look like if they analysed his finals game against Melbourne last year

 

[Nathan Barley]

I dont agree and agree with the experts who are clearly showing where Hippy should be going or leading to. Even worse if that is the directive of the coaches to be redundant in the fwd line.

Then we'll all be whinging that our forwards are getting in each other's way

 

[Dalions]

I dont agree and agree with the experts who are clearly showing where Hippy should be going or leading to. Even worse if that is the directive of the coaches to be redundant in the fwd line.

It looks to me as though it is to clear space for others which is fine but it is just the wrong player.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Clearly the point being that our fwd line isnt working - 7 goals on a quick deck should say it s not. Further 2 gaols from Hippy is pretty poor for one of our KPF that we are relying on

How was our ball movement off half back? How many times did we handball our way out of stoppages to get an unpressured kick inside 50? How many times did we perfectly weight the kick to a teammates advantage?

It didn't work but it's a lot more complex than 2 examples of Hipwood not getting to a dangerous spot on the lead and we still had more scoring shots

 

[Dalions]

Clearly the point being that our fwd line isnt working - 7 goals on a quick deck should say it s not. Further 2 gaols from Hippy is pretty poor for one of our KPF that we are relying on

You may also find that if the tape was checked further you might find that on other occasions it may have been Gunston out there or Charlie or Linc or Daniher?
Looks to me as though they are just trying to find faults in a particular players game just for the sake of their argument.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Don't get me wrong, I'd drop Hipwood this week but that video and in general the Joe and Kingy talk is just reactionary rubbish.