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The AFL were meant to close that loophole after the lions did that with Daniher.Ess offer a 2 year deal on 900 ... not much different to several lopsided deals. 900 triggers band1 and then later additional years are added that smooths the payment.
Sanders as a player that is beyond the bid process is a good piece of assistance
My only issue is the loading up of talent thru the draft does nothing for years. One might say North already have a lot of early pick talent. Add West Coast who look to be ready to clean house we are still going to have a couple of teams that are fringe afl standard and very vulnerable to injuries.
Same could be said for just about any draft assistance. Another reason why draft assistance is dumb.
Surely the AFL know this though. I wonder whether they just do it to give the club a bit of a sugar hit and retain a bit of supporter interest by selling hope when all looks pretty gloomy.
The AFL were meant to close that loophole after the lions did that with Daniher.
So if the AFL had any integrity that won’t fly (the AFL doesn’t do it might)
Isn't that the point the other poster is making though, that they've lost out on talent because they didn't get access to some of the most talented kids in the draft? I've agreed with pretty much everything else said here, but it's undeniable that the academies/FS deprive other clubs of that talent by restricting the open draft poolSecondly, you didn't lose out on any talent in any of those situations, because you never had access to Walter, Ashcroft or JUH. They were never part of the open draft pool, whether they were bid on before or after your pick, you still had access to the 2nd best prospect in the open draft pool.
Giving North draft assistance is like feeding the pigeons.Pick 3 is a compo pick and would have likely been available regardless.
Hawthorn wouldn't likely be picking Sanders at 3/4, so what's the issue?
FA compo? I can't seem to remember there being outrage when you were able to select Reid and Cox from the Danniher compo (Pick 7).
Or Pick 10 for Zac Williams?
Or how about Gold Coast receiving pick 3 as FA compo for Tom Lynch (Izak Rankine) in the strongest draft this decade?
All of these the biggest draft disgrace in history also?
Is that meant to be a sledge? Some of his stuff is awesome - unless you're a vegan, a man playing in the Womens world cup or an orange oil protester.
Front or back ending the contract isn’t the problem. It’s doing it to give extra compensation to get around pick matching.How is it a loop hole? My bet every afl list would have players that either have front loaded or rear loaded contracts.
Of course if we want to try to reduce the weakening of the draft then we remove all compensation, all father sons, all academies etc ..because they all affect the socialistic goals of the draft.
Front or back ending the contract isn’t the problem. It’s doing it to give extra compensation to get around pick matching.
The AFL should just make it a player needs at least a 5 year contract to get band 1.
I still think FA compensation needs to be a thing. Just with tightened rules to prevent any funny business.
One of the concerns I have with the eagles drafting a heap of early picks, yeh it sounds great, but in 3-5 yrs time, it's a mass exodus like GWS.Another issue of hoarding high draft picks in a small space of time is that they eventually will all want bigger pay packets at around the same time putting pressure on salary caps just as they start to become good.
But 1 won't be a continual financial drain on the comp.Ess offer a 2 year deal on 900 ... not much different to several lopsided deals. 900 triggers band1 and then later additional years are added that smooths the payment.
Sanders as a player that is beyond the bid process is a good piece of assistance
My only issue is the loading up of talent thru the draft does nothing for years. One might say North already have a lot of early pick talent. Add West Coast who look to be ready to clean house we are still going to have a couple of teams that are fringe afl standard and very vulnerable to injuries.
GWS going just fine. A draft haul like Franklin/Roughead/Lewis is what the Eagles need, to go with the new coach.One of the concerns I have with the eagles drafting a heap of early picks, yeh it sounds great, but in 3-5 yrs time, it's a mass exodus like GWS.
Hell its what we need again.GWS going just fine. A draft haul like Franklin/Roughead/Lewis is what the Eagles need, to go with the new coach.
Well, would any club say no?Hell its what we need again.
What a terrible situation - being really good and having players wanting big dollars.Another issue of hoarding high draft picks in a small space of time is that they eventually will all want bigger pay packets at around the same time putting pressure on salary caps just as they start to become good.
This is your 2nd terrible season. We got crappy assistance at the end of our 3rd terrible season.People focus on the effect early in the draft but its the later 1st round and early 2nd round picks that suffer the most.
This draft potentially could end up:
1. Reid - WC
2. Walter - academy bid matched Suns
3. McKercher - North
4. Curtin - Priority Pick North
5. Sanders - NGA bid matched North
6. Read - NGA bid matched Suns
7. Dursma - Hawks
8. Watson - whoever traded for the Suns pick
9. Rogers - NGA bid matched by Suns
10. O'Sullivan - Swans
With Croft and a Hawks father sons McCabe falling before 20.
So 7 top 20 players off the table for the rest of the comp.
THEN we have free agency compo for Himmelburg and possibley another.
So we can expect Eagles original pick 19 the 1st pick of the second round to start around pick 28. Geeez.
And I will point out in this scenario the recently labelled "Worse Team in AFL History" receive zero assistance. Nadda
Id like the AFL to justify how this actually works in equalisation?
It’s completely ****edPeople focus on the effect early in the draft but its the later 1st round and early 2nd round picks that suffer the most.
This draft potentially could end up:
1. Reid - WC
2. Walter - academy bid matched Suns
3. McKercher - North
4. Curtin - Priority Pick North
5. Sanders - NGA bid matched North
6. Read - NGA bid matched Suns
7. Dursma - Hawks
8. Watson - whoever traded for the Suns pick
9. Rogers - NGA bid matched by Suns
10. O'Sullivan - Swans
With Croft and a Hawks father sons McCabe falling before 20.
So 7 top 20 players off the table for the rest of the comp.
THEN we have free agency compo for Himmelburg and possibley another.
So we can expect Eagles original pick 19 the 1st pick of the second round to start around pick 28. Geeez.
And I will point out in this scenario the recently labelled "Worse Team in AFL History" receive zero assistance. Nadda
Id like the AFL to justify how this actually works in equalisation?
Pretty sure this is exactly what Keating was talking about when he described "a beautiful set of numbers".1. Reid - WC
2. Walter - academy bid matched Suns
3. McKercher - North
4. Curtin - Priority Pick North
5. Sanders - NGA bid matched North
6. Read - NGA bid matched Suns
7. Dursma - Hawks
8. Watson - whoever traded for the Suns pick
9. Rogers - NGA bid matched by Suns
10. O'Sullivan - Swans