Religion The Bible: Literal, figurative, bulldust?

[Gethelred]

To clearly delineate conversation between threads, this thread is for specifically bible talk; if you're debating biblical historicity or lack of it, if you're talking interpretation, this is the thread for you.

Standard board rules apply. Go nuts.

 

[Total Power]

I assure you; I have answered.

Answer them again then.

1. How did they know it's Moses (quote the exact Bible verse).
2. Why no mention of these earth shattering events till like 100 years later..AFTER Gospel of John?

 

[evolved2]

Educating them in things, concerning the spirit. Not on how to kick a football.

Are children more likely to be saved if parents educate them in things of the spirit?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Answer them again then.

1. How did they know it's Moses (quote the exact Bible verse).
2. Why no mention of these earth shattering events till like 100 years later..AFTER Gospel of John?

1. How did they not know it was Elijah.
2. Josephus is not a credible source according to scholars.

 

[Total Power]

Are children more likely to be saved if parents educate them in things of the spirit?

Like misogyngy , slavery , hating unbelievers, not to think for themselves...

gee...fit for the 21st century.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Are children more likely to be saved if parents educate them in things of the spirit?

All children are saved.

 

[Total Power]

1. How did they not know it was Elijah.

It's a claim, you tell me how did they know Moses and Elijah?

2. Josephus is not a credible source according to scholars.

Josephus forgery included, mentions nothing about Jesus doing anything remotely godly or anything earth shattering.

Wanna try again?

 

[evolved2]

Like misogyngy , slavery , hating unbelievers, not to think for themselves...

gee...fit for the 21st century.

Learning how to be a good slave can be useful for the bedroom.

 

[evolved2]

All children are saved.

Will it make them more likely to be saved after they reach adulthood?

 

[Total Power]

Learning how to be a good slave can be useful for the bedroom.

Well Moses will be proud of that, he was ordered by God to save the women children ....


for what i wonder?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Will it make them more likely to be saved after they reach adulthood?

It depends on who is educating them.

 

[evolved2]

Well Moses will be proud of that, he was ordered by God to save the women children ....


for what i wonder?

Bible lessons obviously. Moses is a kind chap.

 

[evolved2]

It depends on who is educating them.

Are you suggesting parenting can influence the free will choice of adults to accept Jesus into their lives?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

It's a claim, you tell me how did they know Moses and Elijah?

Fair dinkum; read it until you understand it.

 

[Total Power]

Fair dinkum; read it until you understand it.

I did, they are speculating. 100 different possibilities. None of them mentioned in the Bible.

How Did the Disciples Recognize Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration?

At the Transfiguration, the apostles seemed to know that the persons conversing with Jesus were Moses and Elijah. How? Click here for an answer.

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The Gospels do not explain how the disciples were able to recognize Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration, so any answer is a guess.
Possible ways the disciples were able to recognize Moses and Elijah:

• Jesus referred to them by name in his conversation with them, and the disciples overheard it.
• The disciples overheard the conversation, and the context informed them with whom Jesus was speaking.
• They had something unique about their appearance that made them readily recognizable (Exodus 34:29; 2 Kings 1:8).
• There was some sort of heavenly announcement that wasn’t recorded in the Gospels.
• Jesus explained to the disciples who they were.
• They were divinely inspired to recognize them, similar to God’s revelation to Peter that Jesus is the messiah.

 

[Total Power]

• There was some sort of heavenly announcement that wasn’t recorded in the Gospels.

I like this bit evolved2 , when can we have the heavenly announcement of Hinkley's sacking.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

I did, they are speculating. 100 different possibilities. None of them mentioned in the Bible.

How Did the Disciples Recognize Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration?

At the Transfiguration, the apostles seemed to know that the persons conversing with Jesus were Moses and Elijah. How? Click here for an answer.

www.catholic.com

The Gospels do not explain how the disciples were able to recognize Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration, so any answer is a guess.
Possible ways the disciples were able to recognize Moses and Elijah:

• Jesus referred to them by name in his conversation with them, and the disciples overheard it.
• The disciples overheard the conversation, and the context informed them with whom Jesus was speaking.
• They had something unique about their appearance that made them readily recognizable (Exodus 34:29; 2 Kings 1:8).
• There was some sort of heavenly announcement that wasn’t recorded in the Gospels.
• Jesus explained to the disciples who they were.
• They were divinely inspired to recognize them, similar to God’s revelation to Peter that Jesus is the messiah.

Are any of your ideas your own; or do I need to buy Barts book to know what you’re thinking?

 

[Total Power]

Are any of your ideas your own; or do I need to buy Barts book to know what you’re thinking?

I am quoting Christian sources to show you that you are trying to deflect again. There's no mention of what you claim in the Bible.

I am asking you again, how did they recognise it's Moses?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Are you suggesting parenting can influence the free will choice of adults to accept Jesus into their lives?

No it can help making an informed choice.

 

[evolved2]

I like this bit evolved2 , when can we have the heavenly announcement of Hinkley's sacking.

I'm still not sure where I stand on Hinkley, but Port have a premiership standard list to me. Just lacking that hardness when the pressure is on for some reason. I think that issue goes back further than Hinkley tbh. Look at some of the final series in the early 2000s and even the 2007 grand final.

I'd take that over Essendons last 20 years.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

I am quoting Christian sources to show you that you are trying to deflect again. There's no mention of what you claim in the Bible.

I am asking you again, how did they recognise it's Moses?

Are these the same Christian’s that taught you?

 

[Total Power]

Are these the same Christian’s that taught you?

Yes make it about me, again.

Your name should be Mr Deflection.

I have quoted Christian sources, it's NOT mentioned in the Bible like you claim it is

 

[Total Power]

I'm still not sure where I stand on Hinkley, but Port have a premiership standard list to me. Just lacking that hardness when the pressure is on for some reason. I think that issue goes back further than Hinkley tbh. Look at some of the final series in the early 2000s and even the 2007 grand final.

I'd take that over Essendons last 20 years.

I wouldn't. I would rather be s**t than **** up premiership window for the past decade or so. What a wasted generation

 

[evolved2]

No it can help making an informed choice.

How can people make an informed choice if they don't understand psychology, biology, and church history?

 

[Total Power]

How can people make an informed choice if they don't understand psychology, biology, and church history?

Threaten people with hell and thought crime is a very easy way to make an "informed" choice.

 

[evolved2]

I wouldn't. I would rather be s*t than *** up premiership window for the past decade or so. What a wasted generation

Port look so good when they're on. They're one of my favourite teams to watch.