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We just don't have anyone who outperforms the teams level. Son dragged us through games for years. Now that he's cooked no one's even close to replacing him.

Liverpool can play a bad game but win thanks to Alisson, Salah, VVD and McAllister. Who is that for spurs? Kulu was doing it a little at the start of the year but that was more brute force than pure skill.
 
Scarlett has been a 5-6 out of 10 for us in limited showings. Tel has been at a stretch a 3-5 out of 10.

Again not his fault, he is 19 and coming from an elite environment, to this
Please stop man. Scarlett has 29 minutes in the premier league. It's not even a discussion, Tels started 5 games in a row now. Scored against Villa.

It's not comparable
 
1 shot on target isn't good enough. Thankfully Vicario has kept us in the tie. I know some will say we were unlucky it was an OG, but the better side won

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Just getting really fed up with this club not giving a shit about this competition

Same vibes as when Redknapp and Poch were in it... getting done by average opposition that we should be battering 3-0 or whatever

AVB was the only bloke who gave a shit about EL imo, beat Lyon and Inter, then ran into a red hot Basel and lost on penalties
 
Just getting really fed up with this club not giving a shit about this competition

Same vibes as when Redknapp and Poch were in it... getting done by average opposition that we should be battering 3-0 or whatever

AVB was the only bloke who gave a shit about EL imo, beat Lyon and Inter, then ran into a red hot Basel and lost on penalties
We played our best available team? Injured dudes were never going to be rushed back in. Yeah weren't great today but odd take.
 
We played our best available team? Injured dudes were never going to be rushed back in. Yeah weren't great today but odd take.
Stop making excuses man

They are an Eredivisie side that is not Ajax

We should be beating them 9 times out of 10

About as bad a result as when that Gent team rolled us under Poch...
 
Stop making excuses man

They are an Divisive side that is not Ajax

We should be beating them 9 times out of 10

About as bad a result as when that Gent team rolled us under Poch...
Okay, but how did we not give a shit about the competition? Which is why I've questioned your post.
 
End of the day I think we were happy turning up there and making sure the tie was still open for the second leg. Unlucky goal against, they probably deserved a goal from open play either way and we were shit. Not happy with the result or the performance it's also far from over and saying we didn't care is just ludicrous
 
I hate football sometimes I really do.
Liverpool were dog shit against PSG, Alison has a game for the ages and they get lucky not having konate sent off and it's a great European away performance

Tottenham play dog shit, give away a nothing own goal and it's a horror performance lol.

We deserve it don't get me wrong but man it's fine margins that differ narratives
Found the reasons for the narratives
 

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Really annoying. If Bergvall doesn't randomly slice one into the net it's a 'decent' away European performance even though we've been mostly crap

Watched the highlights and read a couple of reports, sounds like we tried to negate the result but due to an unlucky slice which could have gone anywhere and its a 1-0 loss at the oppositions home ground.


Sure, say what you want, AZ Alkmeer etc. etc. etc. It's still European Football where teams (should) fight hard for results. We didn't, they did and it bit us



Positive thing is, get a goal early and the crowd gets involved at THS (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium) and we should get a positive result in the end. Go down early and its a LONG way back even at home
 
Watched the highlights and read a couple of reports, sounds like we tried to negate the result but due to an unlucky slice which could have gone anywhere and its a 1-0 loss at the oppositions home ground.


Sure, say what you want, AZ Alkmeer etc. etc. etc. It's still European Football where teams (should) fight hard for results. We didn't, they did and it bit us



Positive thing is, get a goal early and the crowd gets involved at THS (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium) and we should get a positive result in the end. Go down early and its a LONG way back even at home
Our main problem was it was a low tempo game, probably by design to keep the result in check. But Johnson, Tel, Son, Odobert all suck in low tempo games. They need speed on the game running at the defence. Kulu can change the tempo, Solanke works in that game but it doesn't suit this squad currently. Son and Odobert were both terrible on the left, they kept having to receive the ball slowly and then make something. Neither got fed in behind. I think we will play at a much higher tempo second leg.
 
Speaking on Sky Sports News, O’Hara did not hold back in his criticisms of the North London side’s established stars, saying (6.35pm): “It’s been a pretty poor showing. Big players in the team, leaders, Son, Maddison, I need more from you. You’ve got to step up, you’ve got to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

No point having tactics when your 2 captains play like shit
 

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Our main problem was it was a low tempo game, probably by design to keep the result in check. But Johnson, Tel, Son, Odobert all suck in low tempo games. They need speed on the game running at the defence. Kulu can change the tempo, Solanke works in that game but it doesn't suit this squad currently. Son and Odobert were both terrible on the left, they kept having to receive the ball slowly and then make something. Neither got fed in behind. I think we will play at a much higher tempo second leg.
from what it sounds like, we achieved the result we wanted sans a sliced, could-have-gone anywhere sliced own goal


we've made our bed for the return leg. Get the job done and all will be forgotten
 
from what it sounds like, we achieved the result we wanted sans a sliced, could-have-gone anywhere sliced own goal


we've made our bed for the return leg. Get the job done and all will be forgotten
It was a crap performance, but it didn't seem like we were too concerned about attacking too much. Dunno if the Gala vs Alkmaar game spooked us but we wanted the second leg to be alive
 
Ange has said it was an awful performance and we didn't look like the side he wanted out there. So there's no way it's just a bad luck defeat. It's more a lucky we are still in it defeat because we played THAT badly, but we're still in the box seat to go through.

But if we persist with Tel as ST we'd struggle to get through against Accrington Stanley over 2 legs let alone AZ. Play the kid in his position on the LW, which means binning our top academy prospect Moore and club captain Son.
 
Ange has said it was an awful performance and we didn't look like the side he wanted out there. So there's no way it's just a bad luck defeat. It's more a lucky we are still in it defeat because we played THAT badly, but we're still in the box seat to go through.

But if we persist with Tel as ST we'd struggle to get through against Accrington Stanley over 2 legs let alone AZ. Play the kid in his position on the LW, which means binning our top academy prospect Moore and club captain Son.
You didn't watch the game right?

It was a horrible attacking performance but AZ weren't just destroying us either. 1-0 is about right.

As for the Tel thing I don't know why you feel like once you've picked a path to go down you have to reinforce it no matter what happens, Tels filling in at ST because no one else can including the captain. Your obsession with trying to be right about him failing is weird.
 
You didn't watch the game right?

It was a horrible attacking performance but AZ weren't just destroying us either. 1-0 is about right.

As for the Tel thing I don't know why you feel like once you've picked a path to go down you have to reinforce it no matter what happens, Tels filling in at ST because no one else can including the captain. Your obsession with trying to be right about him failing is weird.
I'd much prefer to be wrong about him and he'd have shown something by now!

I watched the 2nd half on and off with a dodgy stream, and it was dog awful

Not in a sloppy disaster way which we've been prone to. Just impotent and looking like a side who has is cooked. Which we have been. But this was an 8 day break version of us. And we looked stuck between looking tired and confused
 

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