Domestic Violence Epidemic *NSW Police charge 750 in four day blitz

[Kurve]

Thread here on COERCIVE CONTROL

 

[Present Not Past]

Dumb, uneducated and emotionally restricted men are behind the majority of domestic violence against women.
We know that. What now?

 

[josephine666]

We all know a restraining order is next to useless. Why not do something practical that can actually save lives, such as requiring both parties to wear an ankle bracelet. A 24/7 monitoring centre would identify when person A moves into the exclusion zone of person B, the authorities (and person B) would be informed and person A tracked and arrested before any confrontation could take place. The victim and children of DV would be able to remain safely in their own home. Thousands could be helped for a relatively low cost.

Of course you would need the police resources or security detail available to respond. If that's a problem, make person A wear a neck bracelet that increasingly tightens or emits a few thousand volts if they enter the exclusion zone. I may be fantasizing this last bit, but it seems the preferable alternative to innocent lives lost.

 

[Jatz]

You want the victim to get around in an ankle bracelet?

 

[josephine666]

You want the victim to get around in an ankle bracelet?

Who gives a shit if it saves their life? They can carry it however they like. Fixing it to their arm or ankle could vibrate if the perpetrator breached the zone, like your phone. I'd think if someone was fearful for their life they wouldn't be precious about it.

 

[Jatz]

Who gives a shit if it saves their life? They can carry it however they like. Fixing it to their arm or ankle could vibrate if the perpetrator breached the zone, like your phone. I'd think if someone was fearful for their life they wouldn't be precious about it.

Why do you think it'll save their life? Do you know how many AVO's are breached every single day?

We already have a police shortage in NSW (not sure what Vic is like), there's no way they'd be able to monitor every single AVO filed.

I understand what you're saying, it's just completely not viable to actually put into effect.

 

[BFew]

Domestic violence case management not ‘core business’ of police, Queensland’s top cop says

Acting commissioner Shane Chelepy says other state agencies should have a greater role in responding to ‘social issues’ including DV and mental health

www.theguardian.com

'Asked if parts of the response to domestic violence or mental health crises were outside “core business”, he said that police would still attend callouts, but would seek a clearer referral process to other agencies “once we’ve done our job and kept the community safe”. He said there should be a greater role for “wraparound services to reduce that repeat calls for service that we see”.'

'The government recently introduced legislation into parliament to reduce the paperwork burden on police responding to domestic violence incidents – which are widely understood to represent a large proportion of their time on duty. If passed the laws would permit police to issue an on-the-spot order to an alleged domestic violence offender, a proposal that some experts fear could put vulnerable women at greater risk of harm.'

Queensland police to have power to issue on-the-spot domestic violence protection orders

Domestic and family violence experts warn measure risks victims being wrongly labelled as perpetrators by police

www.theguardian.com

 

[BFew]

‘Little fight with the wife’: Trump trivialises domestic violence amid crime crackdown

The president made the remarks just as a court in New York upheld a verdict finding he must pay writer E. Jean Carroll $126 million for defaming her after denying her claim of sexual assault.

www.smh.com.au

'...
“There’s no crime,” Trump said. “They say crime’s down 87 per cent. I said, ‘No, no, no, it’s more than 87 per cent’. [It’s] virtually nothing – and much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime. They’ll do anything they can to find something.

“If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say, ‘This was a crime, see’ – so now I can’t claim 100 per cent [crime reduction]. But we are a safe city. You can walk to a restaurant, you can walk to the White House.”
...'

 

[BFew]

“If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say, ‘This was a crime, see’ – so now I can’t claim 100 per cent [crime reduction]. But we are a safe city. You can walk to a restaurant, you can walk to the White House.”
...'

But not enough people are safe within the walls and gardens and courtyards and balconies of their own homes Donald.
And unlike you, don't have 24/7 personal protection and never will have.

If Donald Trump continues to spew out bile like this, ppl will really think he is ****ing Satan!

 

[Angry Red Bull]

‘Little fight with the wife’: Trump trivialises domestic violence amid crime crackdown

The president made the remarks just as a court in New York upheld a verdict finding he must pay writer E. Jean Carroll $126 million for defaming her after denying her claim of sexual assault.

www.smh.com.au

'...
“There’s no crime,” Trump said. “They say crime’s down 87 per cent. I said, ‘No, no, no, it’s more than 87 per cent’. [It’s] virtually nothing – and much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime. They’ll do anything they can to find something.

“If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say, ‘This was a crime, see’ – so now I can’t claim 100 per cent [crime reduction]. But we are a safe city. You can walk to a restaurant, you can walk to the White House.”
...'

Trump is about the most evil person Ive ever witnessed..obscenely so. I hope Karma catches up to him for all he's done

 

[deck]

A man has been charged with the murder of a woman whose body was found at a waste management facility in Melbourne's north last week.

Her body was found by staff at the facility in Epping on July 3.

Investigators believe the 67-year-old's body was inside a bin that was picked up outside a property in the nearby suburb of Coolaroo.

Homicide detectives arrested a 45-year-old Coolaroo man in Glenroy on Tuesday.

He's due to appear in the Melbourne Magistrates' Court on Wednesday.

Police believe the man and the deceased woman are known to each other.

Man charged with murdering woman whose body was found at a waste facility in Melbourne's north

A 45-year-old man has been charged with murder after a woman's body was found at a waste management facility in Melbourne's north last week.

www.abc.net.au

So a update on this one he ended up pleading to manslaughter. Will likely be out in less than 10 years. Apparently the body was that mangled from the garbage truck they couldn't confirm how she was killed. He was caught on CCTV swamping the bin with a neighbors and then looking through the blinds when the bins were picked up the next day.

 

[the_navyblue]

Dumb, uneducated and emotionally restricted men are behind the majority of domestic violence against women.
We know that. What now?

I`m not sure you can be so confident in attributing the scourge of domestic violence to men who are dumb and uneducated. It is after all overwhelmingly privileged people in our parliaments, for example, who refuse to enact laws that ensure that such violence uniformly carries a set penalty of sufficient years behind bars.

For example, referring to another post on here where we find that one such criminal was allowed to get away with a manslaughter charge for murdering and mangling his partner. Lawyers and the judiciary will argue to the end of time that harsh sentences do not prevent crime, they`ve argued it for years. Those two groups come ovewhelmingly from the privileged sectors of our society.

Yes, rehabilitation and the need to try and build a society where offenders in various crimes are not faced with their wrongdoing being the end of their opportunity to develop into better people are very important. But serious crimes such as the assaults and murders in DV need to be dealt with on the level of seriousness they require.

I remember hearing back in the 90s about a South Australian judge who ruled that rape in marriage wasn`t really such a big deal as the husband apparently could use rougher than usual handling to get his wife to agree to sex. This judge was from a privileged background and highly educated.

There have also been a few more recent notorious cases where males new to Australian society r*ped children and excused it as their defence because in their own culture such actions were not considered a crime.

The judges favoured the ignorance argument that the criminals didn`t understand Australian society and were quite lenient towards them despite the fact that it is not normal and acceptable in our society to see or hear of males raping children especially doing it in a public toilet after leading them away from the safety of the park.

While these vile activities were not DV, it`s not hard to see the same judges also ruling in a DV case that in some cultures wife beating is acceptable so the perpetrator was ignorant and didn`t understand you can`t do that in Australia. Hence justifying the kind of token sentences in the child rape cases. Instead of taking the firm position that our society does not accept these actions and the perpetrators have to be shown that in practical terms.

I am sure those members of the judiciary who walk over the rights of victims in criminal cases find no trouble sleeping at night because they are convinced their elite status and education place them above others.

Male Family exterminators who kill their own children because they don`t want their partner to have custody often have a history of DV or actions that come very close. These kinds of men come from all backgrounds, some of them can be very educated indeed.

We need to be careful about simplifying this issue.

 

[Deliverance]

If conservative people worried as much about their son becoming a hyeprmasculine ****nuckle as they did about them becoming gay, we'd be OK

 

[the_navyblue]

If conservative people worried as much about their son becoming a hyeprmasculine ****nuckle as they did about them becoming gay, we'd be OK

Do you really think that is all there is to it? Again, so long as our society remains in denial that it`s the low/lower end of society and from your view people who aren`t on the left side of politics, then it is difficult to see the situation changing let alone `we`d be OK`.

Jesse Baird and his partner`s murder has been called a Domestic Violence-based murder. The alleged murderer was from the same LBTGQ community and not noted for his conservatism. Just one topical example.

Limiting our perspectives on the origins of DV means our society`s ability to deal with it is limited.

 

[Present Not Past]

I`m not sure you can be so confident in attributing the scourge of domestic violence to men who are dumb and uneducated. It is after all overwhelmingly privileged people in our parliaments, for example, who refuse to enact laws that ensure that such violence uniformly carries a set penalty of sufficient years behind bars.

I'm totally convinced that you have never visited a women's shelter, where women go to escape domestic violence.
On the issue of domestic violence in Australia, you are absolutely spineless.

 

[Present Not Past]

Jesse Baird and his partner`s murder has been called a Domestic Violence-based murder. The alleged murderer was from the same LBTGQ community and not noted for his conservatism. Just one topical example.

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I don't see your inclusion of LBTGQ labels as very helpful here when we're talking about DV.
I think you're just showing your partisanship.

 

[the_navyblue]

I'm totally convinced that you have never visited a women's shelter, where women go to escape domestic violence.
On the issue of domestic violence in Australia, you are absolutely spineless.

I see in your first reply to me you have already ignored the context given and for some reason feel it`s better to throw in an insult of being spineless.

Irrelevant and strange response, but I know that politicians, judges and lawyers can also hang around forums. However, most of them can at least write a logical response although in the case of many politicians it`s their staff doing that.

You haven`t demonstrated any legal understanding or ability to engage with what somebody is actually writing other than to assert your opposition for whatever reason, and you are coming across as somebody defending the privileged classes in Australia who apparently are immune from committing or facilitating DV. Unvarnished reality shows that to be absolutely false.

No more responses to this but you are proving my points.

 

[the_navyblue]

I don't see your inclusion of LBTGQ labels as very helpful here when we're talking about DV.
I think you're just showing your partisanship.

Again, you seem to have a problem with comprehending others` posts that give facts and context. Domestic Violence is not confined to any one community in Australia or anywhere else for that matter.

Jesse Baird and his partner were murdered and there is a link to Domestic Violence as the NSW Police have stated. The alleged murderer seems to have been motivated by obsession that his relationship with Jesse was more than Jesse saw it as being - a classic stalker turns to violence and in this case deadly violence scenario.

I really won`t be engaging anymore with you. I think debate and discussion is not for you. This is why good forums have an Ignore button.

 

[Present Not Past]

Again, you seem to have a problem with comprehending others` posts that give facts and context. Domestic Violence is not confined to any one community in Australia or anywhere else for that matter.

Jesse Baird and his partner were murdered and there is a link to Domestic Violence as the NSW Police have stated. The alleged murderer seems to have been motivated by obsession that his relationship with Jesse was more than Jesse saw it as being - a classic stalker turns to violence and in this case deadly violence scenario.

I really won`t be engaging anymore with you. I think debate and discussion is not for you. This is why good forums have an Ignore button.

I apologise. You are absolutely right.
Domestic violence is never acceptable, not by anyone.
I hope I am not still on Ignore by you.

 

[FR0GGY]

Went to the Adelaide Entertainment Center the other night and up on the walls in the men’s toilet was a sign saying if your partner/date isn’t who you think they are and you feel unsafe then you can go to the bar and ask for Dianne (can’t remember the actual name) and they will discretely get you help.
Was thinking this poster is surely up in the wrong toilets.

 

[BomberManU]

Went to the Adelaide Entertainment Center the other night and up on the walls in the men’s toilet was a sign saying if your partner/date isn’t who you think they are and you feel unsafe then you can go to the bar and ask for Dianne (can’t remember the actual name) and they will discretely get you help.
Was thinking this poster is surely up in the wrong toilets.

I assume gay men are also the victims of DV etc. Also assume that the posters were in the female toilets as well.

 

[FR0GGY]

I assume gay men are also the victims of DV etc. Also assume that the posters were in the female toilets as well.

Nah I asked my wife and she said there wasnt.

 

[justlookingaround]

https://archive.is/KU8k0

This absolute worthless campaigner killed his girlfriend's baby and will be eligible for release after 9 years with a maximum sentence of 13 years.

 

[BFew]

The Hansard transcript related to the below revelation would be good to have a look at.

Investigation launched after claims Molly Ticehurst’s house wasn’t ‘intruder-proofed’ as promised

Review confirmed in NSW parliament after Guardian Australia revealed Forbes mother did not receive help before alleged murder

www.theguardian.com

'...
An investigation into the interactions between Molly Ticehurst and New South Wales government agencies and programs has been launched after it was revealed that the young mother was promised security upgrades to her home two weeks before she was allegedly murdered.

The NSW Cabinet Office investigation was launched after Guardian Australia revealed the Forbes mother was promised help to “intruder-proof” her home as part of the Staying Home Leaving Violence (SHLV) scheme a fortnight before her death.

Ticehurst’s parents, Tony and Kate, say their 28-year-old daughter was “failed” by the system and the people who promised to install lights, cameras and tough window screens at her home after she reported her ex-boyfriend to police.'

Asked during question time in state parliament on Thursday about the alleged failings, the prevention of domestic violence minister, Jodie Harrison, said the case was being investigated by the state’s cabinet office.

“Obviously, something has gone wrong here,” she told parliament.

“The cabinet office has been tasked to undertake a review of all of the interactions Molly Ticehurst had with the NSW government agencies and domestic violence services in the lead up to her death.”

The housing minister, Rose Jackson, also told the parliament that any changes that needed to be made as a result of the apparent failing would be.

“That work to follow up those reports has already begun,” she said.

“If, as has been reported, important programs like Staying Home Leaving Violence, which we do support … if there is a problem or an issue with its delivery on the ground by an NGO partner, we absolutely need to look into that.”

Jackson promised to make public the findings of the investigation that would happen alongside the police and coronial probes already under way.

Ticehurst’s grieving parents have called for funding to be cut to the local service provider, Housing Plus, that their daughter believed was going to help her.'

Molly Ticehurst's former partner pleads guilty to her murder

Daniel Billings pleads guilty to killing his former partner, Molly Ticehurst, at Forbes in central western New South Wales.

www.abc.net.au

 

[FromOldFitzroy]

So an update on this one he ended up pleading to manslaughter. Will likely be out in less than 10 years. Apparently the body was that mangled from the garbage truck they couldn't confirm how she was killed. He was caught on CCTV swamping the bin with a neighbors and then looking through the blinds when the bins were picked up the next day.

So 10 years, and possibly parole after 7.
The beaks don’t put a high value on an innocent human’s life, do they?

 

[Kurve]

Okay, that's shaking it up.

More than 750 people have been charged with domestic violence offences, as support services say they are desperate for funding to match the strong police response.

Under Operation Amarok XII, NSW Police laid more than 1,600 charges and executed more than 270 arrest warrants between November 12 and 15.

Hundreds charged with DV offences in four-day blitz across NSW

More than 750 people have been charged under Operation Amarok XII, though support services say they are desperate for funding to match this police response.

www.abc.net.au