Kobe Gryant
🏆/'07 - '09 - '11 - '22
Except I didn't claim that.We were the best performed team in the afl home and away over that period. Our ladder positions were 2nd, 2nd, 8th, 1st, 4th. That would usually translate to two flags. Richmond was the next best over the period (three 3rds, one 1st and a 13th) and they claimed three flags. To claim we were average or below average when we were literally the best is just false.
I pointed out we were above average or below average depending on the year from scores from turnover, which you claimed was our game-plan in 2016-2020.
Its good for now. But we were a turnover team in the 2016-20 period and it did not stand up in finals. We need more bows.

Do you actually read the posts?No we weren't, we were yo-yoing around being above (or below) AFL average year to year.
2022 is where we were second in scores from turnover, and it worked, among other factors.
For reference, in our years of finals failures (2017-2021) we were 8th, 6th, 3rd, 7th, and 11th from scores from turnover.
We were okay at it, but it wasn't our strength, and we couldn't beat Richmond who actually excelled at it, and built their dynasty off it.
2022 is where we changed the game-plan and moved up to 2nd (60 points a game off TO) when embracing a more chaotic style that actually stood up in finals.
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coaching us and he is able to pull enough strings to overcome a ridiculous handicap like that.




