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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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So let me get this straight..

Fox Sports now run a random article which is solely based off this blokes one tweet despite writing this themselves..

"Channel 10’s Steve Allen is reporting that the Eagles have already begun making plans to split that pick, even though Allen hasn’t yet signalled his intentions for 2026, at least publicly..."

It's almost like you shouldn't speculate on unsubstantiated rumours from one dickhead tweet during the season on a hypothetical pick trade based solely around a bloke who hasn't even left the club yet.

Jesus Christ. How is this level of journalism even allowed. Whoever Fox Sports gimp wrote that needs to delete their account.
So WC are trading OA because we have an abundance of KPF and we are wanting to split pick 2 to bring in another Ruck/Fwd??
Same thing with every nobody saying CDT is the number 1 pick and as such WC are taking him??
Less research than BF??
 
2 for 8+12 is probably not that far off id have thought, Moyle is worth what, pick 15-20ish?

2 for 8+12+20? sounds like its in our favour, but maybe thats what GCS go for as theyve been doing dumb deals for years now, and they get Uwland/Patterson cheaper

Cameron is only a go for me IF we are actually keen on CDT for some reason, in which case skip Moyle and get Flanders from GCS.

Either way Moyle or Cameron id still want Flanders, hes a gun and is under-utilised at GCS.
Where has the Flanders talk come from?

Also, how do you see Archer Reid being used if we wind up with Cameron/CDT?
 
That depends on what we want. Ideally, we're taking one of the higher rated mids but other than that, all of our needs can be met lower down the order. We'll also likely have another top 5 pick next year and top10 the year or two after.

There aren't many holes to plug now. I can see us taking a more targeted approach from this year.

We may have a designated target for pick 1 / 2 rankings.

Say Sharp.

Then have a list of 6 players we rank at a similar level. One of which will extremely likely will be there at pick 8.

We split 2 to land one of the 6 we rank at a similar level and land extra picks / players from the additional split proceeds.

In drafting terms its called not reaching and letting the draft come to you.

Why pay $100 for something you can get for $50.

Reach for Cummings at pick 2.

Or split pick 2 and land three players.

1. Sharp
8. Cummings / Rodriguez / Greeves / Grlj
12 Curtin / Mitch March / Barker
Plus Moyle or another pick.

Not sure what the massive FOMO is in not using pick 2.
 
Add bids for Annable, Uwland and Patterson so 13 and 17.

Possibly Addinsall and McGuane as well.
I don't know why people make this distinction. We almost certainly can't get any of those players, so our picks are, and remain the same place in the live draft.

The only way it can change is if say GC can't trade out their first pick (which they will be able to) and end up having to use it for Uwland - then our pick actually improves one spot in the real, live draft.
 

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We may have a designated target for pick 1 / 2 rankings.

Say Sharp.

Then have a list of 6 players we rank at a similar level. One of which will extremely likely will be there at pick 8.

We split 2 to land one of the 6 we rank at a similar level and land extra picks / players from the additional split proceeds.

In drafting terms its called not reaching and letting the draft come to you.

Why pay $100 for something you can get for $50.

Reach for Cummings at pick 2.

Or split pick 2 and land three players.

1. Sharp
8. Cummings / Rodriguez / Greeves / Grlj
12 Curtin / Mitch March / Barker
Plus Moyle or another pick.

Not sure what the massive FOMO is in not using pick 2.
That's not how it works. They're not going to rank 6 players at the top of the draft the same and then go, "we'll take the one no one else wants".
 
We may have a designated target for pick 1 / 2 rankings.

Say Sharp.

Then have a list of 6 players we rank at a similar level. One of which will extremely likely will be there at pick 8.

We split 2 to land one of the 6 we rank at a similar level and land extra picks / players from the additional split proceeds.

In drafting terms its called not reaching and letting the draft come to you.

Why pay $100 for something you can get for $50.

Reach for Cummings at pick 2.

Or split pick 2 and land three players.

1. Sharp
8. Cummings / Rodriguez / Greeves / Grlj
12 Curtin / Mitch March / Barker
Plus Moyle or another pick.

Not sure what the massive FOMO is in not using pick 2.
Be warned, we are in our current mess because we went years without high draft picks. Also our past track record of ID'ing talent is dubious.
 
In this make-believe fairy tale of us splitting for teen picks, I'm inclined to think it would be so we can trade and bring X player in, rather than a certain draft target.

Cameron would fit the bill here. As discussed for weeks, CDT would also make sense if we land Cameron.

There's other ways to do this without having to split though. Could still get Sharp and give Pies the Hawks pick, or throw in a future pick with our 2nd to sweeten. Many ways to skin that cat.

Also if Cameron does come you'd have to offload at least one of Bailey or Jack Williams. Flynn too arguably, but likely he just becomes WAFL backup.
 
I don't know why people make this distinction. We almost certainly can't get any of those players, so our picks are, and remain the same place in the live draft.

The only way it can change is if say GC can't trade out their first pick (which they will be able to) and end up having to use it for Uwland - then our pick actually improves one spot in the real, live draft.
Because in reality the quality of the player we can get is now the number that the pick has slid too. So you're not getting the "8th best" talent. You're now getting "12th best" talent, or wherever the pick has moved to.
 
I don't know why people make this distinction. We almost certainly can't get any of those players, so our picks are, and remain the same place in the live draft.

The only way it can change is if say GC can't trade out their first pick (which they will be able to) and end up having to use it for Uwland - then our pick actually improves one spot in the real, live draft.
Because you need to be clear that you’re getting the 17th best kid in the draft as opposed to say the 10th best kid. Whether we have access to the talent is irrelevant, the point being that pick 10 this year carries no where near the value of pick 10 in say 2022 when it actually got you the 11th best kid in the country accounting for Will Ashcroft.
 
I am normally for pick splits, but with this draft, our NGAs and the lack of list spots I'd rather we trade up and grab the most talented players players that fit our list profile. Take pick one, two and hopefully another top 10 with hawthorn's first and our pair of seconds. Round out with some NGAs and be on our merry way.

TLDR:
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So let me get this straight..

Fox Sports now run a random article which is solely based off this blokes one tweet despite writing this themselves..

"Channel 10’s Steve Allen is reporting that the Eagles have already begun making plans to split that pick, even though Allen hasn’t yet signalled his intentions for 2026, at least publicly..."

It's almost like you shouldn't speculate on unsubstantiated rumours from one dickhead tweet during the season on a hypothetical pick trade based solely around a bloke who hasn't even left the club yet.

Jesus Christ. How is this level of journalism even allowed. Whoever Fox Sports gimp wrote that needs to delete their account.
The unfortunate reality of journalism in 2025, as newsrooms continue to shrink in the efforts of saving dollars.

It's cheap to regurgitate tweets as news, or write articles based on interviews from other outlets.
 
Judd McVee would be a very handy addition to our young brigade.

If we can get him for Hawks second, or later, bring it on. Anyone suggesting PSD, dream on. Don has already mentioned we rather deal fairly with clubs, as much as that might piss some of you off.

Except for Harley last year, he has had a better Player Rating than some of our other exciting kids (bar this year, which has been hampered by injury). Yes, playing in a better team is easier blah blah blah, plenty of variables.

He turns 22 in a month, a good kicking defender with midfield potential. If traded in, it could also help us use picks on mids at the draft.

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Will he?

Have yet to see anyone talk about picking him in the top 10.

He's being talked up on here.

Twomey has an exceptional record picking the top 10 and 1st round. It is what he does for a job.

If he starts talking up Cummings as a top 10 pick then it likely happens that way. At this point in time he hasn't. Nor have any other commentators / observers and part timers.

There are also other good mids around that pick. Rodriguez obviously.
I don't know. There's people here prepared to take him at 2. What I do know, it it starts getting real slim, real quick.

ESPN:

1. Duursma
2. Sharp
3. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
4. CDT
5. Lindsay
6. Rodriguez
7. Greeves
8. Schubert
9. Grlj
10. Cumming

*** I think NHH is a reach. Guys like him are usually mid-teens. Gresham vibes.

Rookie Me Central

1. CDT
2. Duursma
3. Greeves
4. Grlj
5. Lindsay
6. Ludowyke
7. Marsh
8. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
9. Sharp
10. Rodriguez
11. Xavier Taylor (who's this fellow?)
12. Matthew LeRay
13. Harley Barker
14. Dovaston
15. Schubert
Not even in the top 15. Cumming

Zero Hanger

1. CDT
2. Duursma
3. Lindsay
4. Greeves
5. Grlj
6. Sharp
7. Ludowyke
8. Rodriguez
9. Curtin
10. Hetherton (I don't think this fellow has done anything?)
11. Emmett
12. Cumming
13. Dovaston
14. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
15. Zac McCarthy (who's this fellow?)
16. Tom Burton (who's this fellow?)
17. Rory Wright (who's this fellow?)
Not even in top 17. Schubert


Looks like he's a reach at 8, let alone 2. We'll see if he climbs.

It's becoming apparent to me that the sensible play is Sharp/Duursma, Sharp/CDT, and at a stretch Sharp/Lindsay. I'm not convinced with any of those, but it looks like a safer option.
 
I am normally for pick splits, but with this draft, our NGAs and the lack of list spots I'd rather we trade up and grab the most talented players players that fit our list profile. Take pick one, two and hopefully another top 10 with hawthorn's first and our pair of seconds. Round out with some NGAs and be on our merry way.

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There's absolutely no need to pick split.

The potential Allen compo gives us 4 picks inside the top 20 (pre academy) already.

That's plenty. If we want Cameron, we can also do that without splitting as well. There's really just no need. Especially not for such a poor option as Fold Coasts selections.
 
Where has the Flanders talk come from?
Idk hes just a name who i wouldnt be surprised if he wants to move clubs. Cant get a look in the gcs midfield, Rowell is doing the same role he wants to do
Also, how do you see Archer Reid being used if we wind up with Cameron/CDT?
He'd have to move to being a KPD id imagine, not many other options left lol
 
Because you need to be clear that you’re getting the 17th best kid in the draft as opposed to say the 10th best kid. Whether we have access to the talent is irrelevant, the point being that pick 10 this year carries no where near the value of pick 10 in say 2022 when it actually got you the 11th best kid in the country accounting for Will Ashcroft.
So what? We know that anyway. It shouldn't make any difference to our draft strategy, because our strategy should ignore the players we can't have.

Yeah, we bid on those players, for shits and giggles, but that's as far as it's worth even thinking about them. If five players are taken like that or three, or seven, we're still taking the same picks from the same pool in the uncompromised part of the draft.

So look at the quality of players available, assign them values, split if you feel it works.
 

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100% the right decision. We need Vet mids not half forwards. Can he get his 2023 midfield form back? doubtful imo but this is the right way to find out.

This screams management pr piece, noone drops themselves twice in a year, especially when when we are so low on seniors
 
Judd McVee would be a very handy addition to our young brigade.

If we can get him for Hawks second, or later, bring it on. Anyone suggesting PSD, dream on. Don has already mentioned we rather deal fairly with clubs, as much as that might piss some of you off.

Except for Harley last year, he has had a better Player Rating than some of our other exciting kids (bar this year, which has been hampered by injury). Yes, playing in a better team is easier blah blah blah, plenty of variables.

He turns 22 in a month, a good kicking defender with midfield potential. If traded in, it could also help us use picks on mids at the draft.

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very good summary and agree with all his attributes, get it done
 
That would be my play.
Essendon being enamoured with Duursma and Tigers CDT (or vice versa) would open huge doors for us. With close to the two highest ceilings in the draft, let’s hope both smash the rest of the season, champs have been underwhelming. In saying that, it’s hard to show what you can do as a ruck when it’s split between three.
 
The only reason the pick split makes sense is if we’re bringing in multiple players from other clubs. Cameron + Buss + Moyle + Shellsick. Or some combo like that. Hopefully if we land the GC ruck we won’t take CDT
 
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