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Who'd be a football administrator? Can you imagine some of the club and a good deal of its supporters ever turning on Bont to the point that he feels alienated from the club? One of the greatest, if not THE greatest player to have ever played for us? It's unthinkable. So I am really feeling for Chris Grant this morning. He is a club legend, period, and the club has acknowledged this in their rankings.

Following on from Dougy Hawkins in the 80s, Grant was the beacon of light for the club in the 90s. A generational player who, like Bont, was robbed of at least one Brownlow. Remembering his first game as a 17 year old against St Kilda in 1990, it was clear to everyone present that the gangly teenager making his debut was going to be very special. I was in raptures. And for added context, his debut game in that first round fixture was our first match post-fightback campaign. So, not only were we NOT extinct as a football club, we now had this young fella who looked to be the cream of emerging talent - someone we could pin our hopes to in the new era of our miraculous second coming. Off-field, you could mount an argument that his rejection of Port Adelaide's enormous offer in the late 90s saved the club yet again - a decision that was made purely out of club loyalty...no more, no less.

Now, I might be totally incorrect in assuming that Grant has missed our various Centenary celebrations because he is, or at least feels he is, on the outer with the club. Last night, if he wasn't in attendance, he may have just had a bad cold. But we suspect differently. So, who'd be a football administrator? When we, as supporters, felt a need to criticize him or highlight his supposed shortcomings in his managerial role at the club...well, I'm not suggesting that some of those criticisms didn't warrant air-time and debate...but it just felt so wrong. Why must famous sons (and undoubtedly daughters in the future) become involved in the machinations of club business when the sun sets on their footy career? Let this be a cautionary tale...stay away, stay away. Be a supporter, come to club functions, give motivational speeches, be an ongoing part of the club's fabric - but don't get involved with the business. And don't coach. Do it somewhere else. We won't mind. Don't give us the opportunity to weaken, to take pot shots at your legacy, to second guess the adoration that we thought we had for you.

Chris Grant is in good company. The great Kevin Bartlett didn't take calls from Richmond for three decades because of the 'bad vibes' that went down during his coaching career. That's sad and confusing for supporters who had pictures of him on their walls. I'm getting a bit old to have pictures of Chris Grant on my wall - at least in the bedroom, where my wife would just not understand. Maybe I can sneak one into the rumpus room, next to the Premiership photo with Mitch Wallis's face superimposed onto Josh Dunkley (an apt illustration of just how immature and fickle football supporters can be). Anyway, the point of all of this is - Chris, if you're reading this...you will always be a part of the pantheon. Club royalty. You could stay away from the club for fifty years and it wouldn't make any difference. But I hope that you don't. You are family and, like all families, there is disfunction. The important thing is that families heal. You have given so much to our club. Please come back.
 
I have no issue with the order. I do believe Bont will become the greatest Bulldog ever but EJs legacy can't be forgotten.
Was team of the century captain, the first AFL legend named. He wasn't called Mr Football for nothing.
Bont is the best bulldog I have seen and easily sits in the tier of Lockett, Dunstall, Ablett Jnr and Snr, Carey, Bartlett, Martin and Judd.
He sits behind Leigh Matthews who i saw play in my opinion. Matthews was the best i have ever seen and there is a group of about 15 just behind which Bont is part of. I never had the pleasure of seein Teddy play.
 

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Who'd be a football administrator? Can you imagine some of the club and a good deal of its supporters ever turning on Bont to the point that he feels alienated from the club? One of the greatest, if not THE greatest player to have ever played for us? It's unthinkable. So I am really feeling for Chris Grant this morning. He is a club legend, period, and the club has acknowledged this in their rankings.

Following on from Dougy Hawkins in the 80s, Grant was the beacon of light for the club in the 90s. A generational player who, like Bont, was robbed of at least one Brownlow. Remembering his first game as a 17 year old against St Kilda in 1990, it was clear to everyone present that the gangly teenager making his debut was going to be very special. I was in raptures. And for added context, his debut game in that first round fixture was our first match post-fightback campaign. So, not only were we NOT extinct as a football club, we now had this young fella who looked to be the cream of emerging talent - someone we could pin our hopes to in the new era of our miraculous second coming. Off-field, you could mount an argument that his rejection of Port Adelaide's enormous offer in the late 90s saved the club yet again - a decision that was made purely out of club loyalty...no more, no less.

Now, I might be totally incorrect in assuming that Grant has missed our various Centenary celebrations because he is, or at least feels he is, on the outer with the club. Last night, if he wasn't in attendance, he may have just had a bad cold. But we suspect differently. So, who'd be a football administrator? When we, as supporters, felt a need to criticize him or highlight his supposed shortcomings in his managerial role at the club...well, I'm not suggesting that some of those criticisms didn't warrant air-time and debate...but it just felt so wrong. Why must famous sons (and undoubtedly daughters in the future) become involved in the machinations of club business when the sun sets on their footy career? Let this be a cautionary tale...stay away, stay away. Be a supporter, come to club functions, give motivational speeches, be an ongoing part of the club's fabric - but don't get involved with the business. And don't coach. Do it somewhere else. We won't mind. Don't give us the opportunity to weaken, to take pot shots at your legacy, to second guess the adoration that we thought we had for you.

Chris Grant is in good company. The great Kevin Bartlett didn't take calls from Richmond for three decades because of the 'bad vibes' that went down during his coaching career. That's sad and confusing for supporters who had pictures of him on their walls. I'm getting a bit old to have pictures of Chris Grant on my wall - at least in the bedroom, where my wife would just not understand. Maybe I can sneak one into the rumpus room, next to the Premiership photo with Mitch Wallis's face superimposed onto Josh Dunkley (an apt illustration of just how immature and fickle football supporters can be). Anyway, the point of all of this is - Chris, if you're reading this...you will always be a part of the pantheon. Club royalty. You could stay away from the club for fifty years and it wouldn't make any difference. But I hope that you don't. You are family and, like all families, there is disfunction. The important thing is that families heal. You have given so much to our club. Please come back.
While i agree with you to an extent, i think not attending either centenary celebration reflects exceptionally poorly on Chris Grant (unless there are extenuating circumstances). In football, the time comes for everyone and the club is bigger than any one individual, adminstration or playing group. Its the nature of the beast
 
While i agree with you to an extent, i think not attending either centenary celebration reflects exceptionally poorly on Chris Grant (unless there are extenuating circumstances). In football, the time comes for everyone and the club is bigger than any one individual, adminstration or playing group. Its the nature of the beast
The manner of his returning may depend on the manner of his leaving. We only have sketchy knowledge of it so our natural tendency is to fill in the gaps with speculation. There's nothing wrong with that as long as we remember it's only speculation and not fact. And not a basis to lay blame at anyone's door.

For instance, he might be waiting until Bevo has left the scene before he considers any sort of rapprochement. Like a few others are, I suspect. I'm OK with that, especially if there are emotional scars. Sometimes time apart is a good thing. It doesn't necessarily mean a grudge.

Then again it may have nothing to do with Bevo. Or he may have just been indisposed. We don't really know ... do we?
 
The manner of his returning may depend on the manner of his leaving. We only have sketchy knowledge of it so our natural tendency is to fill in the gaps with speculation. There's nothing wrong with that as long as we remember it's only speculation and not fact. And not a basis to lay blame at anyone's door.

For instance, he might be waiting until Bevo has left the scene before he considers any sort of rapprochement. Like a few others are, I suspect. I'm OK with that, especially if there are emotional scars. Sometimes time apart is a good thing. It doesn't necessarily mean a grudge.

Then again it may have nothing to do with Bevo. Or he may have just been indisposed. We don't really know ... do we?
Ehh... even if he hates Bevo's guts its a celebration of a 100 years fo a fantastic club and he's let a personal spat overshadow that
 
IS there any footage of whitten - before my time.

Or try this one, playing footage interspersed with tributes at his passing. In the footage you'll see lots of George Bissett (#6), future coach Don McKenzie (#30), and Bob Spargo. Later stills of his coaching at huddles have Dempsey and a young Barry Round in a dressing gown. Some poignant shots of Danny Frawley and Tangles Walker too.

 

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looks like he routinely kicked torps rather than drop kicks

players back then look ridiculously unathletic compared to the hulks running around now days.
They may have looked unathletic but the main difference is that the players today wouldn't handle some of the conditions that were played in back then, too scared to get wet or dirty (or can't even handle those conditions)
 
Personally I disagree with Bont being second as well.

Grant was a far better player.

EJ
Grant
Bont
Johnson
Hawkins
C’mon Mike, Bont is a freak. The 3 high pressure set shot ‘captains’ goals he kicked in the 2021 Grand Final to go with a similar goal in 2016 Grand Final. And the other big plays he’s had in finals separates him from Granty. Happy for Chris to be in top 5 for me with Charlie and Johnno?? But there is two players head and shoulders above all others who have ever represented this club.
As a club man all up Grant is on the Mount Rushmore too, purely as players Bont and EJ.
 
Or try this one, playing footage interspersed with tributes at his passing. In the footage you'll see lots of George Bissett (#6), future coach Don McKenzie (#30), and Bob Spargo. Later stills of his coaching at huddles have Dempsey and a young Barry Round in a dressing gown. Some poignant shots of Danny Frawley and Tangles Walker too.



"Left an indelible mark on everyone he touched". some opposition players would definately agree!
 

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Ted was a superstar, those 70. + metre torps were very common for him.

I bang on about Bisset a lot , but notice how many highlights he appears in.

Is anyone out there agreeing with me re his non selection, or am I the loan ranger ?
I used to love him as a player but I was pretty young and didn't see a lot of his games live.

He was short even by the standards of the 1960s (168cm, same height as Caleb Daniel before they started fudging Caleb's height) but he was pretty chunky and thrived in the wintry conditions at the Western (Whitten) Oval.

He was robbed of a Brownlow.
 
Ted was a superstar, those 70. + metre torps were very common for him.

I bang on about Bisset a lot , but notice how many highlights he appears in.

Is anyone out there agreeing with me re his non selection, or am I the loan ranger ?
Mathew Donald published his top 25 with a great write up on each on the SEN website. He had Georgie Bisset and Steve Wallis instead of tie clubs 25 which had Dale Morris and Ellie Blackburn.
I used to always think that Dale Morris was a reincarnation of Stevie Wallis. Both played well over 200 of the most dependable games ever. Both had some really bad injuries. Both were brave beyond comprehension and apparently they were the best blokes and teammates in the clubs history. Shame both aren’t in, toss of the coin for me.
So probably it was Ellie for Georgie, maybe should have been top 25/6 men and then best woman?
 
I used to love him as a player but I was pretty young and didn't see a lot of his games live.

He was short even by the standards of the 1960s (168cm, same height as Caleb Daniel before they started fudging Caleb's height) but he was pretty chunky and thrived in the wintry conditions at the Western (Whitten) Oval.

He was robbed of a Brownlow.
I used to love him as a player but I was pretty young and didn't see a lot of his games live.

He was short even by the standards of the 1960s (168cm, same height as Caleb Daniel before they started fudging Caleb's height) but he was pretty chunky and thrived in the wintry conditions at the Western (Whitten) Oval.

He was robbed of a Brownlow.
Georgie my favourite when starting to watch footy ( 7-10 years old when he played 1969 to 1972). My memory was that he was best on ground in last game 1969, but got reported so got no Brownlow votes. Got cleared at tribunal and lost by 1 vote.
 
Georgie my favourite when starting to watch footy ( 7-10 years old when he played 1969 to 1972). My memory was that he was best on ground in last game 1969, but got reported so got no Brownlow votes. Got cleared at tribunal and lost by 1 vote.
That is my recollection too.

VFL/AFL has form.
 
Georgie my favourite when starting to watch footy ( 7-10 years old when he played 1969 to 1972). My memory was that he was best on ground in last game 1969, but got reported so got no Brownlow votes. Got cleared at tribunal and lost by 1 vote.

Reported for striking Robertson , but it was Bert Thornley , Carlton “ hard man “ who was given the task of roughing up Charlie Pagnoccolo, that started the “ fight “.
( Pag’s kicked 5 that day + big win for the dogs )
I was a 15 yr old that day sitting right on the fence with the Birds Eye view.

Bisset was easily BOG, 30 disposals + 6 goals, and yes the report definitely cost him the Brownlow.
Brilliant footballer !

- but he whacked Robertson , no doubt.
 

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