List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[squashface]

if we invested in shin extension surgery we could potentially create our own ruckman

Could be a good use for Owies

 

[pantskyle]

if we invested in shin extension surgery we could potentially create our own ruckman

 

[Keys]

By reports if he left those picks would be either tied to the Hawks or Cats.

Besides the Hawks pick that’s aligned with the Blues this year (and in a thin draft and depending if they go on a run from here) don’t think any of those picks have great value. One of them will also be in a Tassie draft so likely 30+.

Average haul imo.

If Harley’s management want to push the sign the deal or he’ll ask for a trade barrow then we need to make it clear that any trade will need to be favourable or we won’t agree to it

Two top 10 picks this year and a future R1 pick as a minimum

 

[Elite Pete]

If Harley’s management want to push the sign the deal or he’ll ask for a trade barrow then we need to make it clear that any trade will need to be favourable or we won’t agree to it

Two top 10 picks this year and a future R1 pick as a minimum

Yep, it’s to Essendon or Richmond only.

Sadly I doubt it goes down like that.

 

[Cuzz09]

Is Harley's manager a bit if a cowboy just asking for way overs?

is he new?

 

[Scotland]

Those that think that ignore that we'll have two first rounders already this year and had a very solid draft last year.

I don't see the value is adding some extra first rounders at the cost of Reid who is leading our midfield at 20yo without any senior assistance.

We've also had senior players missing this year that makes things look worse than they actually are and will be a blessing as it's allowed us to get more senior minutes into players.

We also haven't been offered anything, yet. Been around a while, still yet to see a player traded in July.

What the peanut gallery can't seem to understand is that WC don't want to trade Reid. He's not for sale. WC will trade him this year or next if he asks to be traded, as they did with Chris Judd. Kennedy and picks that became Masten and Notte turned out fine in the end, but not one person actually wanted that over 24 year old Judd.

Richmond could offer picks 2 and 3. Essendon could offer picks 4 and 6. Those are great deals for any player let alone a relatively unproven 20 year old. Certainly better than "3 firsts" that start at 25 and are over a 3 year period. But the whole reason clubs would potentially offer those trades is because they see having Reid as better than the potential of those picks.

For WC to actively put him in the shop window at this point would require a ludicrous trade package.

 

[Elite Pete]

Is Harley's manager a bit if a cowboy just asking for way overs?

is he new?

Been around for a while. He also part of the most powerful management group in the AFL.

I’ve said it before, are they setting up the cleanest exit out of WA as they can? Don and co get the blame? Player managers are very crafty

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Been around for a while. He also part of the most powerful management group in the AFL.

I’ve said it before, are they setting up the cleanest exit out of WA as they can? Don and co get the blame? Player managers are very crafty

My understanding is he wants a clause that he can opt to exit the contract after the first two years. If thats the case if i was the eagles i would say No to any front loading in the first two years. For example, if the contract was $20 million over 10 years i would only want to be paying him $1.5 million a year max for the first two years. I definately would not want to be paying him $2.5 million a year in the first two years. He is only playing like an $800k a year player at the moment. If he wants us to essentially overpay him relative to what he is producing at the moment he needs to commit long term.

 

[Goomba1973]

Which clubs? That’s probably thr best way to work out what the motives are behind it.

Can’t see it being worth it for us though as he has one year left to go. While majority of the time players get what they want, the other team would still have to be prepared to offer the right asset

Essendon have shown interest in Ryan .... or so I hear.

 

[Obeanie1]

Ryan Daniels said his concussions weren't a concern and Lions had a 5 year deal on the table fwiw

Ryan for Starcevich?

Tunstill plus Dev?

Player swaps are rare.....very rare.

 

[Goomba1973]

Walking into the Demons would be a nightmare for anyone right now.

Concerns about the off field playing culture

Then you have these player near the end Melksham (34), Gawn (34), May (33), Viney (31), Salem (30), Petracca (29), Langdon (29), Lever (29), Fritsch (29), Oliver (28)

That's a lot of their best 22 approaching retirement.

Add in no first rounder this year and the looming threat of Tassie sucking up draft picks and I could see them in a for a world of hurt with that cliff approaching fast with a big abyss below.

sounds like an upcoming fire sale to me...

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

My understanding is he wants a clause that he can opt to exit the contract after the first two years. If thats the case if i was the eagles i would say No to any front loading in the first two years. For example, if the contract was $20 million over 10 years i would only want to be paying him $1.5 million a year max for the first two years. I definately would not want to be paying him $2.5 million a year in the first two years. He is only playing like an $800k a year player at the moment. If he wants us to essentially overpay him relative to what he is producing at the moment he needs to commit long term.

Because of the restrictions on draftees’ contracts, we’re massively underpaying him at the moment (last year, this year and next year). So any front ending will be an attempt to offset that.

 

[Goomba1973]

Flyin' couldn't even handle a training camp down south, what makes anyone think he'll be happy to relocate over east?

because he is chasing a longer term deal....and if we can get a decent pick for him...then who cares how happy he is.

 

[Goomba1973]

Yep agreed. All the A grade players we have will definitely have to take a pay cut.

Cole, Duggan, owies, hunt and petrucelli to name a few....

Pretty sure OA and McGovern will free up some cash. Hunt is gone , Petch will probably go... not big contracts the second two but the first two will free up a lot of space.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I know after his first indiscretion plenty of eagles players didn't want him back.( this came directly from a player, not much of a player but someone on the list for a long time who was possibly working at the club at the time)Can't imagine that changed much after the airport incident and then leaving to go to Port
I realise not many of those players are left now but the betrayal those at the club felt back then would make it near impossible for Willie to come back

Haha not advocating for his return - just not opposed to it if it were to happen, with no real thought given to how he would fit into the team or for how long

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Because of the restrictions on draftees’ contracts, we’re massively underpaying him at the moment (last year, this year and next year). So any front ending will be an attempt to offset that.

I don't think thats how it works. You don't deliberately overpay people on their next contract to subsidise them if they played better than they were paid on their last contract. You pay what the market price is or what the market dictates for every contract going forward. Not the market price plus a subsidy bunged on the top because you feel bad that you got a positive return based on what you paid on the last contract. Value or positive returns are what you are aiming for, not something to feel guilty about and compensate people for. Thank god you are not in charge of contracts.

 

[lusheslewis]

My understanding is he wants a clause that he can opt to exit the contract after the first two years. If thats the case if i was the eagles i would say No to any front loading in the first two years. For example, if the contract was $20 million over 10 years i would only want to be paying him $1.5 million a year max for the first two years. I definately would not want to be paying him $2.5 million a year in the first two years. He is only playing like an $800k a year player at the moment. If he wants us to essentially overpay him relative to what he is producing at the moment he needs to commit long term.

I wouldn't think about it as "front loading", they are two separate contracts.

We are negotiating a two year extension, the option is just for Harley's security and is unlikely to be used.

If he is demanding $2.5m a year (seems unlikely) for two years then that is what it costs, we can't move the money into the 9 year option.

 

[FKASC]

Pains me to say it but Ryan is a classic comfortable Simmo era player.

He has his moments and I have enjoyed his midfield bursts but is a 12 disposal, 3 inside 50, goal a game forward who isn't a high pressure player and has kicked 4 goals in a game 3 times in 121 games. At his peak he was 3rd in the comp for goals from smalls and outside the top 20 for inside 50s and goal assists. His AA season was good, but wasn't Mark LeCras/Phil Matera levels.

Everyone loves some flyin' Ryan but he's not really pivotal to our rebuild and there are plenty of small forwards around the league that do more. It's not like he's a consistent 30-40 goal kicker or an animal pressure player inside 50.

Yeah he’s the sort of player we should let look elsewhere. Obv not push out but don’t pay overs to retain.

 

[Scotland]

We're a bit fecked either way.

Now is the time to spend because we have to and the list is young. Zero to be gained from a cap perspective trying to save money paying Harley now. But by the same token no point paying $2m a year to someone who wants out in 3 years.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I don't think thats how it works. You don't deliberately overpay people on their next contract to subsidise them if they played better than they were paid on their last contract. You pay what the market price is or what the market dictates for every contract going forward. Not the market price plus a subsidy bunged on the top because you feel bad that you got a positive return based on what you paid on the last contract. Value or positive returns are what you are aiming for, not something to feel guilty about and compensate people for. Thank god you are not in charge of contracts.

It’s not about feeling guilty. Every other club chasing him will be offering him more on that basis, so we’re basically bound to do the same.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

You’re not trading an over the hill Liam Ryan for a bloke like Davies who played a better game last week than Ryan has in the past three seasons

And Pick 6 wasn’t enough for Rioli

 

[WCE_18]

Just watched the Saints vs Demons mini again. I would offer NWM $1.7m a year for 10 years and the Saints pick 1 for him.

Don’t you know already, no one uses a top 5 pick on a outside midfielder… according to a certain poster

 

[Obeanie1]

He's had 3 games in his entire career where he has had 20 or more touches out of 125 career games.

He's not, and never will be, and AFL midfielder.

How many midfield games has he played in those 125 games?

I would suggest.

None.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Wouldn't be shocked to see Simmo back coaching next year.

Who though?

Carlton - on the downward and the coaches continually get knifed.

Melbourne - on the downwards slide and lots of credits to shed / unrest.

North - eventually on the upward slide. But it's North. The beggar club and the tin rattling eventually gets to you.

 

[Obeanie1]

You’re not trading an over the hill Liam Ryan for a bloke like Davies who played a better game last week than Ryan has in the past three seasons

Is Davies going to hold his spot in the Suns team going forward?

Suns last two drafts landed gun mids.

They are about to get another.

An experienced premiership forward isn't of interest to them? Look at their forward line age and experience wise.

Liam "Flying" Ryan wouldn't put bums on seats? Yes he would.

There are reasons why Davies is playing in the QAFL, the Suns midfield is stacked. STACKED.