Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVIII

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

Folks, this is the way things are here.

Posters are responsible for what they post. Moderators can not attest to the accuracy or otherwise of any rumour posted.

Moderators will intervene for a couple of reasons.

1. If a thread is threatening to be derailed because of a post.

2. If invested parties request the removal of material.

None of this draws a conclusion as to the accuracy or otherwise of the original post.

There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.

Also, you need to remember that this thread like all parts of this forum is bound by the rules of poster conduct. If you want to express skepticism towards a rumour that's fine, but having a crack at posters who are contributors to this forum is simply not on and will be acted upon.

Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!

 

[Wickzki]

this notion of there not being a game plan in the 4th quarter of the GC game.... really? 18 players on the field can just coordinate themsleves playing on instinct?

reckon that, for whatever reason, we got to play the way we wanted to in the 4th and built good momentum

I think you're right and throw in the Suns thinking they have 3 games in the ensuing 18 day period and that they'd built a lead took their foot off the gas almost too much.

When we get our stuff going it looks good but there's reasons for it.

 

[katmanblue]

You're not...?

Blue_Balls brings the receipts

 

[Gavstar]

this notion of there not being a game plan in the 4th quarter of the GC game.... really? 18 players on the field can just coordinate themsleves playing on instinct?

reckon that, for whatever reason, we got to play the way we wanted to in the 4th and built good momentum

A pattern of behaviour that when the game is lost that our players take chances that they normally don’t take is not a game plan.

If it is and the players can only perform to the plan once the game is lost then the coach needs to change the players.

If coaching is the inhibitor of playing to the game plan then remove the coach.

Simples?

 

[ctwenty1]

A pattern of behaviour that when the game is lost that our players take chances that they normally don’t take is not a game plan.

If it is and the players can only perform to the plan once the game is lost then the coach needs to change the players.

If coaching is the inhibitor of playing to the game plan then remove the coach.

Simples?

Or maybe when the game is lost the opposition is not as attentive and enables us to take, what appear to be, chances because there is a little extra space and/or time

Simples

 

[Will_Hayward]

A pattern of behaviour that when the game is lost that our players take chances that they normally don’t take is not a game plan.

If it is and the players can only perform to the plan once the game is lost then the coach needs to change the players.

If coaching is the inhibitor of playing to the game plan then remove the coach.

Simples?

Now explain why we have generally performed better in first quarters.

 

[RPCB]

I'm not the one ridiculing blokes who work 10x harder than me during the week under far more pressure to perform at their work than I ever will.

WalshistheGOAT’s actual job

 

[Michael Jezz]

Cause we are not smart enough to be innovators.

We need more drive from Centre Clearance and Stoppage. If De Konig stays(doubtful), play him as an onballer and draft Flyn Reilly & Harding to bolster the ruck stocks. Luke Jackson played on Cripps 2 weeks ago, so the idea has legs

 

[ctwenty1]

We need more drive from Centre Clearance and Stoppage. If De Konig stays(doubtful), play him as an onballer and draft Flyn Reilly & Harding to bolster the ruck stocks. Luke Jackson played on Cripps 2 weeks ago, so the idea has legs

yeah I will miss the drive he provides if he leaves

 

[Wickzki]

Now explain why we have generally performed better in first quarters.

The opposite reason than what happened on Saturday.

Gold Coast's job this week was to not get involved in a scrappy game. They wanted to put the game to bed early. Preserve as much energy as possible for the GWS game and then their Friday-Wednesday double. They took the foot off the accelerator.

In most of our other games opposition teams are happy to play rope-a-dope. They know that we need to work 2-3 times harder than most to get the production on the board. Even in the quarters and halves we've dominated most of the time you walk away thinking "we should really be 2+ goals up" per quarter of dominance. They will absorb the damage knowing that through our own inability that it won't be maximum damage. It's the second half after they've absorbed our best shot that they push into gear and run over the top of us.

Teams know they can put the game to bed early against us. Brisbane gave the blueprint in the elimination final last year. Much of it really is doing what teams do in the second half to us. Instead of absorbing they switch on early. By the time they take the foot off the comeback is almost meaningless and if necessary they can find a way to steady (just as Brisbane did in the final).

The book is well and truly out on how to beat Carlton. We don't have the players, the structures, the system or the gameplan to counter it despite how much I will readily accept Voss has tried.

 

[mjonc43]

Speaking of game plans, is there any reason Carlton can't make a new game plan that's never been achieved before.
Instead of copying the top sides, come up with a way to change how AFL is played once again.
We be the leaders for once. Get ahead of the pack.
Or am I only wishing this could happen.

Pretty sure we aren't copying anyone.

 

[Gavstar]

Now explain why we have generally performed better in first quarters.

Players aren't fatigued?

If the players can only carry out the game plan when not fatigued, then either get players fit enough to do so, get fitter players or get a new game plan that works when carried out by fatigued players?

 

[ForeverForward]

People arguing in a Rumours thread...it's all very..well...Carlton.

 

[blues4flag]

Or maybe when the game is lost the opposition is not as attentive and enables us to take, what appear to be, chances because there is a little extra space and/or time

Simples

This notion that teams pick and choose when to play the gameplan in isolation is bewildering.

A huge part of strategy is getting the game played on your terms, and denying the opposition their terms.

We didn't throw caution to the wind and play on instinct. For whatever reason, we were able to get the game fully on our terms, dominate territory and score easily. Big part of that is probably due to Gold Coast taking the foot of the peddle, but that was a good indication of how we want to play.

The more pertinent question is, why can't we get the game on our terms more often, and are there fundamental problems that prevent that from happening?

 

[jezza25]

The rumour Charlie wanted out is absolute fact.
He can’t so he stays.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Re: Charlie

Not surprised that he wants a change.

Seems to have lost the enjoyment.

Hopefully we can find a way to re-spark that for him

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Re: Charlie

Not surprised that he wants a change.

Seems to have lost the enjoyment.

Hopefully we can find a way to re-spark that for him

Based on Voss's pressers, it seems 'play the youth' is official so I think have a bunch a young keen - and even cocky- kids like Moir around Charlie might re-invigorate him.


...and I still don't mind the idea of playing Charlie back (or Harry).

 

[We may never win again]

Charlie’s management did reach out to Collingwood recently but it never went anywhere with them

 

[jezza25]

Charlie’s management did reach out to Collingwood recently but it never went anywhere with them

Wanted Geelong but knew they couldn’t get a deal done.

 

[LanceRomance]

Wanted Geelong but knew they couldn’t get a deal done.

If geelong wants it done, they will get it done

 

[RPCB]

2025 - “Play the kids” when the year is lost.

2026 - “Play the out of form senior players and shy sway from playing the youth until the year is lost.”

Surprise me, Carlton FC.

 

[mOccO77]

I also heard this rumor was legit over the weekend from a good source.
Sydney being the desired destination.

Don't know how legit the trade scenario is but I was told Sydney first round and Logan Mcdonald.
Pls don't shoot me

 

[Bluechip66]

You're not...?

 

[jezza25]

If geelong wants it done, they will get it done

Not this time

 

[RPCB]

If Charlie wants to leave, then **** him off to Sydney. Geelong getting him woukd just be stupid. “Look, our oldies on low coin are retiring. So we have the money to bring in Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

and we are seriously considering Harley Reid as well.” Piss off.

 

[ctwenty1]

Not this time

I reckon there may be a very late play in the trade period

ie a potential team will come to us with a very good offer. Not syaing it will be good enough ofr us but woudl be strong

Just my thoughts tbh