Club Focus North Melbourne 2025

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[txbyhull]

I'm ashamed of a lot, that trade isn't on the 1st page. As poor as it was at the time, I don't think we need another Duursma (we have the better one already), CDT (Goad is much better), we could have got Lyndsey, sure but we already have better (Hardeman).

Pardon me

 

[Chip Scab1]

Pardon me

Zane is much better. Yours is coward fraud, ours is just a coward.

 

[danielG]

How the trade works out we will see. If you would like to understand the clubs rationale on why they did it it is.

1- We rated Matt Whitlock at pick 12 on last years board. Whether that turns about to be correct remains to be seen.
This is how all clubs work, the have their own internal rankings. At a club level we traded this years first pick for pick 12 last year.

2-We had our first round pick on the table for this years draft for any club to trade with us for all night. The first club to take up the offer was Richmond. Every other club preferred to keep their 2024 pick.
That in itself should tell you the regard this years draft was valued

3- After taking the best available talent for 2024 with our pick 2 the club took Finn O’Sullivan they were determined to take a tall with the later pick. There was an expectation there would not be an elite tall at the Whitlock level in the 2025 draft at our first pick.

It could work out to be a terrible trade, but hopefully this context helps

We def didn’t expect to play finals lol.

Good explanation.
Always been interested to hear the justification on that trade.

 

[Wild Bill]

I did answer it. What you said was complete rubbish

lol - so you think a trade is only good or bad at the time of the trade and the players are irrelevant?

I didn’t like it at the time but looking at this draft it’s no where near as bad as I thought. Only time will tell if it was a bad trade - no matter how much you stomp your feet and scream it’s a bad trade….

 

[txbyhull]

Zane is much better. Yours is coward fraud, ours is just a coward.

Elite rage bait

 

[Jugada]

lol - so you think a trade is only good or bad at the time of the trade and the players are irrelevant?

I didn’t like it at the time but looking at this draft it’s no where near as bad as I thought. Only time will tell if it was a bad trade - no matter how much you stomp your feet and scream it’s a bad trade….

Yes a trade is either good or bad on its own. Whether you draft exceptionally well or poor later on is a completely different circumstance

 

[Jugada]

The fact you didn't like it at the time and are now saying it's not AS BAD as you thought says you know that's the case and are just looking for excuses

 

[Wild Bill]

Yes a trade is either good or bad on its own. Whether you draft exceptionally well or poor later on is a completely different circumstance

Correct a bad trade can be an amazing trade if you use the picks well.

 

[Wild Bill]

The fact you didn't like it at the time and are now saying it's not AS BAD as you thought says you know that's the case and are just looking for excuses

How is it bad when this upcoming draft looks as bad as any in a long time.

CDT looks good and should be an Eagle - Sharp didn’t have the year I thought he would and apart from Dursmma there isn’t a heap to get excited about - outside the academy’s.

If there was a group that had outstanding years I would have been disappointed - but it didn’t happen - so yeah it’s no longer a terrible trade.

 

[Jugada]

The unwillingness to just be like nah it was poor is crazy. Not the hill to die on

 

[Chip Scab1]

Should have drafted tauru last year instead of another midfielder

FOS is yards better than a 3rd Tall! Not even playing the same sport. Your kid is ok, ours is already a gun. Gun. Likely the 2nd best behind McKercher of all our kids, ahead of Wardlaw & LDU, comfortably.

 

[Chip Scab1]

The fact you didn't like it at the time and are now saying it's not AS BAD as you thought says you know that's the case and are just looking for excuses

No, you're a genius with hindsight, not foresight.

You should also really judge trades 2-3 years in, especially with a team not contending.

If the team is contending sure, obviously, but otherwise it's difficult and it's best to wait.

You can have a real-time opinion but ones analysis of the trade must be done in due course and be open to change to be actually correct.

 

[Jugada]

No, you're a genius with hindsight, not foresight.

You should also really judge trades 2-3 years in, especially with a team not contending.

If the team is contending sure, obviously, but otherwise it's difficult and it's best to wait.

You can have a real-time opinion but ones analysis of the trade must be done in due course and be open to change to be actually correct.

Hard disagree.

If you guys traded Paul Curtis for a 2nd rounder you wouldnt be saying let's wait 5 years to see how whoever we take at pick 30 goes before judging the trade

 

[perplexed]

Hard disagree.

If you guys traded Paul Curtis for a 2nd rounder you wouldnt be saying let's wait 5 years to see how whoever we take at pick 30 goes before judging the trade

Why are you so obsessed with this one crappy trade? It was a shocker but wasn't even our worst of the period - see Caleb Daniel. Though to be fair, probably neither comes close to WC though. Turning pick three into Allen, Baker and Owies makes us look semi-competent. It's the reverse of one of those 'trash into gold' trades we laugh at on BF club boards.

Let's hope that this year our list managers lose their phones.

 

[Wild Bill]

Hard disagree.

If you guys traded Paul Curtis for a 2nd rounder you wouldnt be saying let's wait 5 years to see how whoever we take at pick 30 goes before judging the trade

At the time sure - what happens if that 2nd rounder becomes the next Chris Judd?

The trade then flips to become awesome.

Time - time will reveal all.

Same with our trade last year.

 

[Jugada]

Why are you so obsessed with this one crappy trade? It was a shocker but wasn't even our worst of the period - see Caleb Daniel. Though to be fair, probably neither comes close to WC though. Turning pick three into Allen, Baker and Owies makes us look semi-competent. It's the reverse of one of those 'trash into gold' trades we laugh at on BF club boards.

Let's hope that this year our list managers lose their phones.

Lol must be obsessed if i give one opinion on a topic huh

Im not out here defending poor Eagles trades. Poor trades from any team can just be acknowledged as bad and move on

 

[Jugada]

At the time sure - what happens if that 2nd rounder becomes the next Chris Judd?

The trade then flips to become awesome.

Time - time will reveal all.

Same with our trade last year.

Then that is just good drafting later on. There is just no arging with this sort of logic. Just because a bad decision leads to a good outcome later on doesn't make the first bad decision a good one.

Happy to move along from this chat now

 

[Wild Bill]

Then that is just good drafting later on. There is just no arging with this sort of logic. Just because a bad decision leads to a good outcome later on doesn't make the first bad decision a good one.

Happy to move along from this chat now

An ugly duckling trade that turns into a beautiful swan is rolled gold.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Hard disagree.

If you guys traded Paul Curtis for a 2nd rounder you wouldnt be saying let's wait 5 years to see how whoever we take at pick 30 goes before judging the trade

Laughable example.

Paul Curtis would cost you 2-3 R1 selections and I'd still say no. What about for Harley Reid + 2x R1s, no, still keep Curtis.

 

[Jugada]

Laughable example.

Paul Curtis would cost you 2-3 R1 selections and I'd still say no. What about for Harley Reid + 2x R1s, no, still keep Curtis.

Kind of my point lol. You would agree it's an horrendous trade without needing 5 years to see how the drafted player turns out

 

[Chip Scab1]

No the better example, more aligned to our scenario is 3R1's for former WA Captain & prodigy Riley Hardemann.

You are conflating known values.

Would you give us a F2 for Zac Fisher

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Zac Fisher

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175cm

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76kg

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384.0

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17.0

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10.0

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7.0

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5.4

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3.0

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[Better Loosen Up]

Goodness this is a terrible thread

 

[Heaps of fun]

Are these supposed to be the designated trolling threads? Jeremias get in here and clean up this mess.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Interesting to see that several clubs that struggled on field are seeing an exodus of players (or at least an attempt at one). Carlton and Essendon have been well documented, Richmond had a bunch of guys jump ship last season.

But North don't seem to have that level of disenchantment - they look to have kept pretty much everyone they've wanted to keep, and we're not hearing noises about unhappiness or cultural issues at the club the way we see with some other struggling clubs.

Seems they must be doing something right off field.

 

[pupstar]

Interesting to see that several clubs that struggled on field are seeing an exodus of players (or at least an attempt at one). Carlton and Essendon have been well documented, Richmond had a bunch of guys jump ship last season.

But North don't seem to have that level of disenchantment - they look to have kept pretty much everyone they've wanted to keep, and we're not hearing noises about unhappiness or cultural issues at the club the way we see with some other struggling clubs.

Seems they must be doing something right off field.

Great post mate it's a shame a few on our own forum can't see it as you do.