List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  27

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[eaglevision]

Brock ?
He has been amazing this season for a guy who has never played an afl before this season .

198cm , elite pace and reach . Can mark or punch and has an awesome left foot for a tall .

He just needs a few seasons to put on some size . Like a young Eric makenzie

I know Brock has his admirers on here and yes he’s fast and is a good kick but I don’t see anything else that resembles an AFL standard KPD. His decision making is poor-average, he gets moved under the ball too easily even by opponents smaller than him, he can’t stand up in tackles and is rag dolled. He doesn’t add enough offensively to be tolerated as a poor man on man defender.

I’d still draft and trade as if he wasn’t there, in the meantime he can fight with Bazzo to fill the spot until we come up with a medium-long term player.

I’d start Archer at CHB next year and have him also ruck in D50.

 

[Barrybran]

Schubert will be a great pickup for someone, but do we think he'd be happy to come and play back for us? He looks pretty settled up forward

Who in the top 15 would pick him up given the chance?

 

[txbyhull]

Top 20 Mock Draft (inspired by ALFooty and other mocks)

1WCE - Willem Duursma [utility]
2 GC - Zeke Uwland [mid/def]
3 WCE - Cooper Duff [Ruck]

Any trade we do with Gold Coast to move up would include a handshake deal not to bid on their players. They could just as easily take the Port pick to a number of other clubs. I also disagree with taking Duff-Tytler.

4 RICH - Josh Lindsay [mid/def]

I dont see Josh Lindsay going in the top 5 anymore, he’s fallen off quite a bit in the last month or so. His kicking which would be the only reason he’d be drafted so high has lowered in quality a bit. Doesnt look like he’ll make it as a mid which is why he’d be drafted so high as a high floor hbf with mid upside.

5 GC - Dylan Patterson [mid]
6 RICH - Sam Gryl [mid]
7 BL - Daniel Annable [mid]
8 ESS - Jacob Farrow [mid/def]
9 ESS - Oliver Greeves [mid]

I don’t see Essendon taking either of these two with Cumming, Sharp and Hibbins-Hargreaves still on the board.

10 WCE - Sam Cummings [mid]

He would not fall to 10.

11 STK - Jevan Phillopu [mid]

The only way I see Saints ending up with Jevan is if they split picks. I think their main target will be Greeves, and if they can’t get him I see them splitting. Jevan I think will fall to later first round than this.

12 HAW - Mitch Marsh [fwd]
13 CARL - Dyson Sharp [mid]
14 CARL - Harry Dean [def]

Not quite sure how Carlton end up with 2 picks here? A Harry Dean bid will fall inside the top 10, likely by the Saints, Essendon if Ridley leaves, or the Eagles.

15 SYD - Aidan Scurbert [fwd]

I don’t know if I see Sydney keeping their first as they risk losing out on matching King. Especially if they are throwing the kitchen sink at Curnow.

16 WB - Noah Hibben [fwd/mid]

Think they’d go Xavier Taylor before Hibbins-Hargreaves, as said previously I think Noah will be much higher up the board than this.

17 ESS - Xavier Taylor [def]
18 FREO - Harley Barker [wing]
19 ESS Adam Sweid [mid]

Dont know if I see Freo going for Barker, feeling like they’re more likely to go fwd in this draft as idk if Swit and Freddy stay in the team much longer. Dovaston here for me.

20 GWS Lachlan Dovastan [fwd]

Compensation
Band 1
- WCE Oscar Allen
- CARL Tom De Koning
Band 2

• ESS Sam Draper
• CARL Jack Silvagni

Don’t believe in the slightest that Carlton would receive band 2 for Silvagni personally. Band 3 at most.

Trades

• WCE trade HAW 1st + WCE second round pick to GC for Ports 1st
• GC trade HAW first for both ESS first

WCE Selections
1 Willem Duursma - Eagles draft him to develop him into a transition mid, eagles desperately need players that can help transition the ball, Duursma is elite in almost everything but struggles with contested ball.
AFL comp: Finn Callaghan

2 Cooper duff - Eagles draft there must needed ruck of the future, new ruck rules and other new rules help his case of being a ruck at afl level. The afl is trying to reduce the amount of stoppages, so having a ruck that can move around the ground will be great. Is weakness's would be his size and hitouts, new rucks rules should help in the hitouts.
AFL comp: Tim English / Luke Jackson

this is completely bias and personally but I despise talk of drafting CDT, Archer can do everything he can, admittedly worse and ground level, but better in the ruck and taller. We should put it off until either of the next 2 years and get Benji Van Rooyen or Axel Walsh personally.

10 Sam cummings - Eagles draft a do it all mid, Cummings can play inside and out, has amazing defensive pressure, and hits the scoreboard.
AFL comp; Andrew Brayshaw / Isaac Heeney

Love Cumming as a prospect but unless we split 1 or 2 as well as trade for 7 I don’t see him falling to us.

 

[Coasters7]

I don't feel that banfield or our NGAs have shown enough to even be drafted .

Maybe walley if the afl let's us put him directly onto our Cat B list .

Banfield wouldn't even be looked at if he wasn't a F/S

Even still.

2 and 11 for 5 and 6, Ryan and 19 for 7, leaves us 29, as an example.

Plenty of ways to move our picks around to get who we want whilst keeping the highest ceiling. Can move picks into next year if we think the FS and NGAs are good enough. We have so much flexibility to not have to trade away pick 1.

 

[txbyhull]

I don't feel that banfield or our NGAs have shown enough to even be drafted .

Maybe walley if the afl let's us put him directly onto our Cat B list .

Banfield wouldn't even be looked at if he wasn't a F/S

I’d disagree, I’d say at the very least Evans and Banfield have shown enough to make the rookie list

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Who in the top 15 would pick him up given the chance?

Sydney have pick 9, would be wise to grab him if he gets to them. Dons, St Kilda and Hawthorn could also be a shout. No idea what they would be planning to do with their picks though. (this is assuming Saints keep their pick).

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I know Brock has his admirers on here and yes he’s fast and is a good kick but I don’t see anything else that resembles an AFL standard KPD. His decision making is poor-average, he gets moved under the ball too easily even by opponents smaller than him, he can’t stand up in tackles and is rag dolled. He doesn’t add enough offensively to be tolerated as a poor man on man defender.

I’d still draft and trade as if he wasn’t there, in the meantime he can fight with Bazzo to fill the spot until we come up with a medium-long term player.

I’d start Archer at CHB next year and have him also ruck in D50.

Not so long ago that Harry Edwards was a lost cause and a shit player, Sandy has played bugger all games compared to Harry too. I think Sandy has plenty to work with, and I see his floor as very, very handy KPD depth. His ceiling probably isn't A-grade, but very servicable. He just has some handy traits for his size, a bit of a point of difference.

Being moved under the ball too easily can be trained out with better positioning and reading of the play, I expect that to improve with more experience and confidence. Not being able to stand up in tackles and the physical side of things should improve too. He's still only 22. IMO, way better chance of making the cut than Bazzo. My two cents on Sandy, anyways.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I don't feel that banfield or our NGAs have shown enough to even be drafted .

Maybe walley if the afl let's us put him directly onto our Cat B list .

Banfield wouldn't even be looked at if he wasn't a F/S

Both Banfield and Evans get drafted if they're not club tied. Williams maybe. Walley unlikely given his role and style.

 

[eaglevision]

Not so long ago that Harry Edwards was a lost cause and a shit player, Sandy has played bugger all games compared to Harry too. I think Sandy has plenty to work with, and I see his floor as very, very handy KPD depth. His ceiling probably isn't A-grade, but very servicable. He just has some handy traits for his size, a bit of a point of difference.

Being moved under the ball too easily can be trained out with better positioning and reading of the play, I expect that to improve with more experience and confidence. Not being able to stand up in tackles and the physical side of things should improve too. He's still only 22. IMO, way better chance of making the cut than Bazzo. My two cents on Sandy, anyways.

Don’t think Harry was ever a lost cause, just slow as **** and a defensive system needs to be implemented that takes that into account.

Blight and Stumpf would have been better as rookie/DFA than Bazzo and Brock.

Different opinions welcome, hopefully you’re a better judge of KPD development than I am.

 

[Donkers]

I disagree, CDT is ranked high because he has a a higher floor. Ranked 1 or 2 on most boards for the whole season and combine is expected to support this. He is not just ruck or forwards of centre but all of them and with our game plan that flexibility is just as important.

Taller Brander to me. May get to the level of someone like Josh Fraser. Do not rate him at all. He's a very tall midfielder and got comprehensively beaten in the ruck by his own draft class at the champs.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

We definately need to figure out which of our young talls is most suited to being developed into a key back and start developing them for that role. We can't play all of them in the forward line. We have Waterman, Shanahan, BWilliams, A. Reid, J.Williams all competing for the same two or three spots in the side depending on whether you want to play an extra tall third tall. They can't all play there going forward and all of them are too good to throw away.

 

[Barrybran]

Don’t think Harry was ever a lost cause, just slow as **** and a defensive system needs to be implemented that takes that into account.

Blight and Stumpf would have been better as rookie/DFA than Bazzo and Brock.

Different opinions welcome, hopefully you’re a better judge of KPD development than I am.

We were considering trading him only two seasons ago because he hadn't come on as hoped

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Don’t think Harry was ever a lost cause, just slow as **** and a defensive system needs to be implemented that takes that into account.

Blight and Stumpf would have been better as rookie/DFA than Bazzo and Brock.

Different opinions welcome, hopefully you’re a better judge of KPD development than I am.

I was ridiculed last pre-season for saying that the Harry naysayers would all be quiet come the middle of the year. That one worked out for me, guess I'll double down and put my nads on the line again for Sandy!

You've been saying Stumpf would have been a great pickup and I totally agree, he would certainly be better than Bazzo...far more athletic and suited to the modern game. If only list spots weren't such a glaring issue for us. Not upset we ended up taking Newton instead, he looks a player so far.

My hope is that our new defensive line coach (whoever that is, fingers crossed for Harry Taylor) brings some fresh ideas and gets the best out of Bazzo, Brock and Edwards. Would be a huge plus for the rebuild. Webster had been hanging around for far too long.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I know Brock has his admirers on here and yes he’s fast and is a good kick but I don’t see anything else that resembles an AFL standard KPD. His decision making is poor-average, he gets moved under the ball too easily even by opponents smaller than him, he can’t stand up in tackles and is rag dolled. He doesn’t add enough offensively to be tolerated as a poor man on man defender.

I’d still draft and trade as if he wasn’t there, in the meantime he can fight with Bazzo to fill the spot until we come up with a medium-long term player.

I’d start Archer at CHB next year and have him also ruck in D50.

He's played only 14 games of AFL, is a KPD...Let's give him a bit of time first.

He should develop more strength with time and master the art of the body spoil better.
In-fact, I thought he was looking better in this area, in the last few games that he played.

Decision making in a dysfunctional team, in a back line under constant siege, would Obviously look worse too.

He's shown a lot and well worth persevering with in the medium term.

* edit - What RustyShacklefordFalcon said

 

[Tugga27]

was this reported somewhere?

Only in the minds of some of the posters on here mate.

If true, Essendon have offered Starcevich over a million a year for 4 years, so you can cross him off I reckon.
Can't see Neale going anywhere next year.

Some people on here thought we were a legitimate chance for Bont.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Some people on here thought we were a legitimate chance for Bont.

I won't lie, that would have felt like winning the lotto. About as much chance too.

 

[juice568]

Not so long ago that Harry Edwards was a lost cause and a shit player, Sandy has played bugger all games compared to Harry too. I think Sandy has plenty to work with, and I see his floor as very, very handy KPD depth. His ceiling probably isn't A-grade, but very servicable. He just has some handy traits for his size, a bit of a point of difference.

Being moved under the ball too easily can be trained out with better positioning and reading of the play, I expect that to improve with more experience and confidence. Not being able to stand up in tackles and the physical side of things should improve too. He's still only 22. IMO, way better chance of making the cut than Bazzo. My two cents on Sandy, anyways.

Who says Harry edwards even makes it. The guy is 200cm yet ginbey takes the best forward. What does that say about him. Hes a stop gap in my opinion.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Who says Harry edwards even makes it. The guy is 200cm yet ginbey takes the best forward. What does that say about him. Hes a stop gap in my opinion.

Ginbey has been taking the best forward with Harry out injured. Its also very matchup dependent. Ginbey is best taking the quicker more athletic talls, Harry is better taking the gorillas. Both very much required players in our backline

 

[txbyhull]

Who says Harry edwards even makes it. The guy is 200cm yet ginbey takes the best forward. What does that say about him. Hes a stop gap in my opinion.

Bad take

 

[DorothyG]

Yeah I've got HEdwards as one of the biggest/best improvers for the year.

Hopefully this season has given him some confidence in his abilities and keeps the upward trajectory next season

 

[BSD]

I don't feel that banfield or our NGAs have shown enough to even be drafted .

Maybe walley if the afl let's us put him directly onto our Cat B list .

Banfield wouldn't even be looked at if he wasn't a F/S

Totally agree, we have to pick the best available irrespective of whether they are F/S or NGA

 

[mattyc75]

To be a tagger he would need to up his leg speed, that's what the preseason is for.

Taggers generally aren't the fastest or most talented. It's more mindset than anything

 

[txbyhull]

Totally agree, we have to pick the best available irrespective of whether they are F/S or NGA

We’re only going to take maximum 4 players in the draft anyways, all in the top ~40 if not 3 in the top 10 hopefully. It’s kinda completely unrelated. Take the bpa in the draft, and rookie the fs and nga as freebies. There’s no reason not to

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I’d disagree, I’d say at the very least Evans and Banfield have shown enough to make the rookie list

Evans has done enough and he's barely played this year and he'll sit out the national combine tests.

 

[eaglevision]

Seems odd we’ve announced the Bazzo extension but noting from the club on Cole and Cripps who are probably the two most at risk not to get a contract extension.

Perhaps the Cole and Cripps extensions may not be a foregone conclusion, depending on our trading.