List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[katmanblue]

The issue is more if we go ahead of a bid, and he still gets bid on before our pick, then we look beyond stupid

It's a risk, bit far from a certainty. How we look also isn't a concern for me as long as we get the players we want. How it happens doesn't matter.

Why does looking stupid matter so much to you?

 

[Coona Blues]

We're in an interesting situation re cap space over the next couple of years.

With TDK, JSOS, Doch, Elijah, Gov and potentially Acres and Curnow we should have an absolute bucket load of cash free'd up for some trade targets.

Unfortunately with the new bid matching system and our F/S and NGA prospects we're quite hamstrung in who we can actually bring in over the next two off seasons in terms of having picks to trade with.

Butters, Bailey, McInerney and B.King the only real standouts in terms of RFA in 2026 which means if we miss on them we'd most likely be sitting on a mountain of cash for multiple seasons.

In some ways that could be a blessing in disguise as we'd be able to bank cap space and front end some deals with certain players, in another... We would be essentially wasting the final years of Cripps, Harry, Weiters and others primes.

Very interested to see how we approach things this off season.

Clearly looking to sure up our depth. With Doc gone, possibly/probably Gov, then Saad, Newy, Haynes and maybe Williams only having a year or two in likelihood it becomes a necessity. Next wave of Acres, Cripps, Hewett and Pittonet under consideration, but largely planned/covered for already.

Free agency the obvious target with the need for draft capital.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Lots of support for Buku around here.
Not good enough to get a game at the Bulldogs but good enough to get a game at Carlton...
Can't see Bukumate being happy as a backup Player which is why he wants to leave the Bulldogs.

I must be one of the few who thinks GW and Austin should do better.
If Buki ends up on our list ... no doubt we will be revisiting this decision in 2026.

I'm getting the distinct impression that GW's vision doesn't mix with Carlton's ability to carry it out.

 

[CJMB]

I'm getting the distinct impression that GW's vision doesn't mix with Carlton's ability to carry it out.

What makes you say that?
And how would we really know, or at least have any idea, until we’ve got to the end of at least 1 off-season/list change period?

Pre-trade and draft period, everything public is just posturing at some level, from some party (even sleazebag Robbie D)

 

[COBALT BLUE]

We're in an interesting situation re cap space over the next couple of years.

With TDK, JSOS, Doch, Elijah, Gov and potentially Acres and Curnow we should have an absolute bucket load of cash free'd up for some trade targets.

Unfortunately with the new bid matching system and our F/S and NGA prospects we're quite hamstrung in who we can actually bring in over the next two off seasons in terms of having picks to trade with.

Butters, Bailey, McInerney and B.King the only real standouts in terms of RFA in 2026 which means if we miss on them we'd most likely be sitting on a mountain of cash for multiple seasons.

In some ways that could be a blessing in disguise as we'd be able to bank cap space and front end some deals with certain players, in another... We would be essentially wasting the final years of Cripps, Harry, Weiters and others primes.

Very interested to see how we approach things this off season.

Yes true
Curnow has been sneaky dening trade request....hmmm
Gov might stay at mates rates and pls offer some return of value...hehe
Acres played sore a lot with that shoulder.....might be OK?...after a tune up he will serve very well probably
EH..ended up disappointing.......unless?

We need a fit Acres and Curnow is just media noise unless Carlton gets a very good offer on the elite which would be a nice situation for Carlton to deal with

Motlop staying says he has potential......he gets close to the ball so often....he tries very hard most of the time and tackles well, his pressure on the ball could mean his stats are actually slightly better than they are.
If he could slightly alter his game style and get some new coach to get him a better look at his positioning around the football I also think there's A LOT of potential for him...he obviously needs a lot of work and the club have talent here they are just not connecting with its obvious and Carlton better get it right

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Not getting much quality for 500k now.

Chesser/Buku/Reidy types?

 

[JustaBattler]

I'm getting the distinct impression that GW's vision doesn't mix with Carlton's ability to carry it out.

SacK

 

[Coops93]

Anyone able to provide an update on the Irish boys? There was lots of talk when we brought them in about their pedigree and also the significant investment we were making in scouting/recruitment in Ireland at the time. Obviously, one had an unfortunate knee injury, but aside from that, I can't recall hearing anything about Irish footy since that period.

 

[bradfisher14]

I know I'm about to cop 1000 red thumbs downs, but we should take Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

as ruck/fwd depth and to stop him from having his best game against us every bloody year.

 

[JJBagger]

Since when is he in the list management team?

Since he said so in his early press comferences

 

[katmanblue]

Chesser/Buku/Reidy types?

Maybe.

I would have thought we'd be paying more to lure them across.

500k for home grown, but a bit more for trade ins.

 

[katmanblue]

I know I'm about to cop 1000 red thumbs downs, but we should take Mason Cox as ruck/fwd depth and to stop him from having his best game against us every bloody year.

Go on. Do it. I dare ya.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Butters, Bailey and King will cost a mint, Mcinerney a realistic option, the cupboard is pretty bare free agency wise.

We will have a mint with all the players walking out the door

 

[Opium]

Watch us try and move up in this years draft like last year with Sydneys 1st along with our TDK compo

I'm not sure this strategy is right. This isn't a great draft and no clear standout players to be moving up. We could've got Murphy Reid and another player last draft with our two picks. Recruiting needs to be better.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I'm not sure this strategy is right. This isn't a great draft and no clear standout players to be moving up. We could've got Murphy Reid and another player last draft with our two picks. Recruiting needs to be better.

I understand your reasoning. However the top 3 or so will be very very good players. People can put down this draft but the top handful will be great players.

If the club add Jagga, Walker, HOF, Dean, Ison, the Campos, plus a few extra, plus a top 3 talent (this year) over the space of a 3 year period from the draft, I think the club would be very very happy with the outcome.

 

[Opium]

I understand your reasoning. However the top 3 or so will be very very good players. People can put down this draft but the top handful will be great players.

If the club add Jagga, Walker, HOF, Dean, Ison, the Campos, plus a few extra, plus a top 3 talent (this year) over the space of a 3 year period from the draft, I think the club would be very very happy with the outcome.

That will be it though. Cripps will be nearly retired with zero up and coming key forwards. That's a massive concern with Tasmania coming in. I think our list is in no man's land tbh and don't like the strategy at all.

 

[eaglevision]

Hey fellas and ladies, in the hypothetical event that Curnow leaves, is this trade palatable for Blues posters?

CARL OUT: Curnow, 10
CARL IN: 2, 17, F1 (GCS), Chesser

*noting you’d either trade 17 for another F1 or split it again for Dean points.

 

[Stamos]

Hey fellas and ladies, in the hypothetical event that Curnow leaves, is this trade palatable for Blues posters?

CARL OUT: Curnow, 10
CARL IN: 2, 17, F1 (GCS), Chesser

*noting you’d either trade 17 for another F1 or split it again for Dean points.

Only if we can on-trade one or more of those picks for a gun player.

 

[HarryFlashman]

I know I'm about to cop 1000 red thumbs downs, but we should take Mason Cox as ruck/fwd depth and to stop him from having his best game against us every bloody year.

Easier fix to the problem is that we all watch out for him & if we see him, go in for a big high five & “accidentally” poke him in the eye
Whole lot better than having him on the list

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Hey fellas and ladies, in the hypothetical event that Curnow leaves, is this trade palatable for Blues posters?

CARL OUT: Curnow, 10
CARL IN: 2, 17, F1 (GCS), Chesser

*noting you’d either trade 17 for another F1 or split it again for Dean points.

Can you work your own F1 into that instead of GC?

 

[Blue and Silver]

Hey fellas and ladies, in the hypothetical event that Curnow leaves, is this trade palatable for Blues posters?

CARL OUT: Curnow, 10
CARL IN: 2, 17, F1 (GCS), Chesser

*noting you’d either trade 17 for another F1 or split it again for Dean points.

Right now. It's a no.

In 4 weeks of it really looks like Curnow wants out.

Yeah maybe

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Hey fellas and ladies, in the hypothetical event that Curnow leaves, is this trade palatable for Blues posters?

CARL OUT: Curnow, 10
CARL IN: 2, 17, F1 (GCS), Chesser

*noting you’d either trade 17 for another F1 or split it again for Dean points.

Chuck in someone we can spend our 4-5 million of free cap space on and you might have a deal!

 

[eaglevision]

Chuck in someone we can spend our 4-5 million of free cap space on and you might have a deal!

Is it that much? 2 gets Petracca and change, have a crack at Butters next year, 17 covers Dean points after sliding back and F1 along with your F1 probably covers Walker next year.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Is it that much? 2 gets Petracca and change, have a crack at Butters next year, 17 covers Dean points after sliding back and F1 along with your F1 probably covers Walker next year.

Which club is Curnow going to here?
Eagles? Or is this a 3-way?

 

[DangerousD]

We will have a mint with all the players walking out the door

Overpaying is the issue, buying a player in an inflated market sets a precedent for the rest of the group and new recruits moving forward.

In the case of TDK I saw us offering probably $100,00-$200,000 more than market value and the Daints offering $600,000-$800,000 more than his value, * supposedly offering Bailey over $1M and I’m sure King will be offered a stack.

It doesn’t seem like good business to me unless you are adding a final piece player.