Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[reubsblues]

If gold coast want Charlie I'd say Walter and turn him into a defender his pace would be seen as a defender I had no idea he was that quick and he doesn't have great footy smarts as a forward
Pick 6 and Walter is probably our best result to

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I had this debate with another poster, this idea that top clubs pillage the bottom clubs of free agents isn’t true.
The majority of free agent moves are to lower clubs.
Not saying it can’t be improved and I don’t mind the idea of the receiving club having to give something, just some people seem to have made assumptions on not much evidence.

Is it true that the very best free agents don't end up with the top clubs?(maybe this is more of a present/future issue)
I'm not concerned about the band 2,3 or 4 level players.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

I know I'll be in the minority here but with both a stacked 2026 draft group and the "what a frikkin surprise" F/S changes next year, I would be using Curnow to get us as many future picks as possible

Yes we take a hit if we don't land a big fish in return for Charlie, and on the surface, it might play with our egos, but in my head, what's best for Carlton right now is to be well positioned to take Cody without losing every damn pick for him and not taking advantage of other young kids in next year's draft

I'd take the Sydney "offer"?? of Hayward, 2025 1st and 2026 F1 if they threw in 2026 F2 deal for Charlie

 

[I bleed Blue]

Miers has done well to make it this far in the AFL given his handicap growing up.

…..that is growing up with a first name of Gryan.

He also has a brother called Rygar

 

[DangerousD]

Is it true that the very best free agents don't end up with the top clubs?(maybe this is more of a present/future issue)
I'm not concerned about the band 2,3 or 4 level

Going off memory.

Perryman band 1 went to a lower club

Z. Williams band 1 went lower

TDK band 1 went lower

SOS went lower

Cumming went lower

Hewett went lower

Battle went higher to the Hawks

Lynch to the tigers went low to high

B. McKay went to *

Gresham to *

Brisbane will however raid two low clubs this year although WC will be overcompensated

There’s not a trend of players going to the very top clubs

 

[Blue Heart]

Had a brief chat today. He's put on some size & the knee is good. MCC boy

The same murphy Reid that won the rising star you mean? A ‘B’ grader.

But we know jagga is ‘A’ grade?

He may well be but our draft record hasn’t been flash.

All we know so far is he is very talented. Quick etc. But he is very skinny and has done a knee already.

But ok Jagga is ‘A’ grade and Murphy Reid is a ‘B’ grader.

We could have had two good choices instead of one. And built our team that way. Langford, Reid etc

But we thought jagga would be the cherry on top. How wrong they were.

 

[Blue Heart]

If Winx was a footballer and we drafted her, she probably die a maiden !!!

We are shocking drafters and possibly worse developers of talent and TBH I'm not
sure what is the greatest sin.

 

[The Bighouse]

Apparently * going hard for him. 1.3M x 6 per Cal Twomey. Not sure if that's for this year or when he hits FA

Think Adelaide are in the mix too.

 

[sosos]

An unsigned player who’s a free agent next year?

I would pick the best candidate, regardless of their contract status. That's person is Walsh.

If Walsh is weighing up what to do after next year (evidently he is as he hasn’t signed on yet), why would he take the captaincy?

If Walsh turns it down, next cab is Weitering.

He's maybe too intense, so I would then consider giving it to George Hewett. No more selfless player in the team.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

If Winx was a footballer and we drafted her, she probably die a maiden !!!

We are shocking drafters and possibly worse developers of talent

I would confident we could pinch one over the hurdles before it got that drastic…..

 

[RAPPA]

He also has a brother called Rygar

Great NES game

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I know I'll be in the minority here but with both a stacked 2026 draft group and the "what a frikkin surprise" F/S changes next year, I would be using Curnow to get us as many future picks as possible

Yes we take a hit if we don't land a big fish in return for Charlie, and on the surface, it might play with our egos, but in my head, what's best for Carlton right now is to be well positioned to take Cody without losing every damn pick for him and not taking advantage of other young kids in next year's draft

I'd take the Sydney "offer"?? of Hayward, 2025 1st and 2026 F1 if they threw in 2026 F2 deal for Charlie

I'd take this year's 2nd rounder. We can pay for Dean with that, and use our TDK compo and Swans 1st to get higher in the draft or wrestle a decent player out of somewhere.

We'd have 2 1sts next year and all our others to pay for Walker. We can spend one and use one.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Going off memory.

Perryman band 1 went to a lower club

Z. Williams band 1 went lower

TDK band 1 went lower

SOS went lower

Cumming went lower

Hewett went lower

Battle went higher to the Hawks

Lynch to the tigers went low to high

B. McKay went to *

Gresham to *

Brisbane will however raid two low clubs this year although WC will be overcompensated

There’s not a trend of players going to the very top clubs

Most of the lower/higher examples are very marginal.
We will have to see how these trades go in the future.
I'm interested in ways to equalise the system where a handful of clubs are finalists every year.

 

[GoBlues!]

He also has a brother called Rygar

Interesting his parents used scrabble to pick Gryan’s name….Zryan would have been worth more points..

 

[Benaly28]

Curnow + future 2nd for
Haywood, Florent 2025 first and 2026 first should be the deal imo.

Yeh na.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Seriously, that’s way overvalued…effectively 2 x top 3 picks

Not going to happen

Not a strong draft this year and future picks have time risk.
But yes it's overs but that would be my ask/reference to get as close to as we can.
Would you be giving back a F2 or F3 to even it up?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Interesting his parents used scrabble to pick Gryan’s name….Zryan would have been worth more points..

What do the Duursmas get for their W,X,Y,Z effort?

 

[Matty411]

Curnow + future 2nd for
Haywood, Florent 2025 first and 2026 first should be the deal imo.

If its Sydney, take out anything else from us and its probably the minimum od where it lands.

Still not happy but might be what GW settles on. Not enough for mine, though.

 

[muzza99]

Interesting his parents used scrabble to pick Gryan’s name….Zryan would have been worth more points..

I just figured the dad was angry and the mum was a ranger…..but now we have a J thrown into the mix

 

[CoachB]

Hi, I did an AI analysis of the differences between Brisbane and Carlton, which the statistics say are a lot closer than whqat the eye says:

Big Picture​

• Carlton finished 11th despite being competitive in several areas.
• Brisbane finished 1st, with a statistical profile showing more efficiency, better ball movement, and stronger scoreboard impact.

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Key Differences​

1. Scoreboard Impact​

• Goals: Brisbane 13.2 vs Carlton 11.3 → +2 goals per game.
• Scoring Shots: Brisbane 25.3 vs Carlton 21.9 → +3.4 shots per game.
• Conversion %: Almost identical (52.2% vs 51.6%), but Brisbane simply created more chances.
  This difference alone explains much of the ladder gap — Brisbane consistently outscored opponents.

2. Ball Use & Efficiency​

• Disposal Efficiency: Brisbane 72.4% vs Carlton 70.7%.
• Effective Disposals: Brisbane 268.9 vs Carlton 253.0.
• Kick-to-Handball Ratio: Brisbane 1.66 vs Carlton 1.47 → Brisbane kicked more, handballed less (more direct).
• Metres Gained: Brisbane 6060m vs Carlton 5803m → +257m per game.
  Brisbane moved the ball more directly, further, and cleaner.

3. Possession Style​

• Carlton: Higher contested possessions (137.7 vs 132.6), stronger in contested marks (10.6 vs 8.2).
• Brisbane: Higher uncontested possessions (231.5 vs 214.7), more marks overall (104.4 vs 90.1).
  Carlton played a tougher, inside game, but Brisbane controlled tempo with outside spread and uncontested ball.

4. Clearances & Ruck​

• Clearances: Very close — Brisbane 41.0 vs Carlton 39.3.
• Hitouts: Brisbane 40.4 vs Carlton 34.7 → edge to Lions.
  Brisbane had a ruck advantage that translated into slightly stronger stoppage dominance.

5. Defensive & Pressure Acts​

• Tackles: Carlton 63.1 vs Brisbane 57.8 → Carlton more pressure-focused.
• One Percenters: Brisbane 46.4 vs Carlton 43.2.
• Rebound 50s: Brisbane 38.0 vs Carlton 36.1.
  Carlton tackled more, but Brisbane defended more effectively with intercepts and one-percenters.

Summary in Plain English​

• Carlton: Stronger in contested footy and pressure (tackles, contested marks), but lacked polish moving forward. They won the ball but often turned it over or couldn’t convert inside 50 dominance into goals.
• Brisbane: Cleaner ball movement, more direct, and more efficient with inside 50s. They consistently gained more ground, had more marks, and created extra scoring shots, which pushed them from competitive to dominant.

In short:

• Carlton = gritty, contested, high-pressure, but wasteful.
• Brisbane = polished, efficient, higher scoring, ladder leaders.

 

[CoachB]

Based on the Brisbane v Carlton statistics Ai created the following recruitment profile:

Player Profiles to Target​

Given where Carlton lagged compared to Brisbane, the following roles would likely yield good returns:

Player Role / Profile	Why It Helps	Key Attributes
Outside mover / link ball-winner	To lift uncontested possession, spread, and transition speed	Good running capacity, clean disposal, delivers into 50
Key forward / marking target	To convert more inside 50 entries; take contested marks	Strong mark (especially contested), reliable kicker, forward craft
Ruck upgrade or dual-ruck/forward option	To improve hitout counts and extract stoppage value	Tall, athletic, good around the ground game
Intercepting defender / rebounder	To bolster transition defense and rebound 50s	Reading the ball well, good disposal on exit, intercept marking
Less “wasteful” inside midfielder	To reduce turnovers, raise ball use efficiency from congestion	Clean hands, low clanger rate, decision-making in tight corridors

Given the statistical profile, the “outside mover / link” and “key forward / marking target” probably yield the highest marginal gain, because those are where Brisbane has separation.

 

[JJBagger]

I would pick the best candidate, regardless of their contract status. That's person is Walsh.



If Walsh turns it down, next cab is Weitering.

He's maybe too intense, so I would then consider giving it to George Hewett. No more selfless player in the team.

Giving Walsh the captaincy and having him leave after 1 year in the role would be a disaster

 

[The Bighouse]

Interesting his parents used scrabble to pick Gryan’s name….Zryan would have been worth more points..

This is why a licence is required to have kids..

 

[The Dochs in]

I would pick the best candidate, regardless of their contract status. That's person is Walsh.



If Walsh turns it down, next cab is Weitering.

He's maybe too intense, so I would then consider giving it to George Hewett. No more selfless player in the team.

So anyone but Cripps is what you’re going with? Why??

 

[Magruder]

Hi, I did an AI analysis of the differences between Brisbane and Carlton, which the statistics say are a lot closer than whqat the eye says:

Big Picture​

• Carlton finished 11th despite being competitive in several areas.
• Brisbane finished 1st, with a statistical profile showing more efficiency, better ball movement, and stronger scoreboard impact.

---

Key Differences​

1. Scoreboard Impact​

• Goals: Brisbane 13.2 vs Carlton 11.3 → +2 goals per game.
• Scoring Shots: Brisbane 25.3 vs Carlton 21.9 → +3.4 shots per game.
• Conversion %: Almost identical (52.2% vs 51.6%), but Brisbane simply created more chances.
  This difference alone explains much of the ladder gap — Brisbane consistently outscored opponents.

---

2. Ball Use & Efficiency​

• Disposal Efficiency: Brisbane 72.4% vs Carlton 70.7%.
• Effective Disposals: Brisbane 268.9 vs Carlton 253.0.
• Kick-to-Handball Ratio: Brisbane 1.66 vs Carlton 1.47 → Brisbane kicked more, handballed less (more direct).
• Metres Gained: Brisbane 6060m vs Carlton 5803m → +257m per game.
  Brisbane moved the ball more directly, further, and cleaner.

---

3. Possession Style​

• Carlton: Higher contested possessions (137.7 vs 132.6), stronger in contested marks (10.6 vs 8.2).
• Brisbane: Higher uncontested possessions (231.5 vs 214.7), more marks overall (104.4 vs 90.1).
  Carlton played a tougher, inside game, but Brisbane controlled tempo with outside spread and uncontested ball.

---

4. Clearances & Ruck​

• Clearances: Very close — Brisbane 41.0 vs Carlton 39.3.
• Hitouts: Brisbane 40.4 vs Carlton 34.7 → edge to Lions.
  Brisbane had a ruck advantage that translated into slightly stronger stoppage dominance.

---

5. Defensive & Pressure Acts​

• Tackles: Carlton 63.1 vs Brisbane 57.8 → Carlton more pressure-focused.
• One Percenters: Brisbane 46.4 vs Carlton 43.2.
• Rebound 50s: Brisbane 38.0 vs Carlton 36.1.
  Carlton tackled more, but Brisbane defended more effectively with intercepts and one-percenters.

---

Summary in Plain English​

• Carlton: Stronger in contested footy and pressure (tackles, contested marks), but lacked polish moving forward. They won the ball but often turned it over or couldn’t convert inside 50 dominance into goals.
• Brisbane: Cleaner ball movement, more direct, and more efficient with inside 50s. They consistently gained more ground, had more marks, and created extra scoring shots, which pushed them from competitive to dominant.

In short:

• Carlton = gritty, contested, high-pressure, but wasteful.
• Brisbane = polished, efficient, higher scoring, ladder leaders.

Based on the Brisbane v Carlton statistics Ai created the following recruitment profile:

Player Profiles to Target​

Given where Carlton lagged compared to Brisbane, the following roles would likely yield good returns:

Player Role / Profile	Why It Helps	Key Attributes
Outside mover / link ball-winner	To lift uncontested possession, spread, and transition speed	Good running capacity, clean disposal, delivers into 50
Key forward / marking target	To convert more inside 50 entries; take contested marks	Strong mark (especially contested), reliable kicker, forward craft
Ruck upgrade or dual-ruck/forward option	To improve hitout counts and extract stoppage value	Tall, athletic, good around the ground game
Intercepting defender / rebounder	To bolster transition defense and rebound 50s	Reading the ball well, good disposal on exit, intercept marking
Less “wasteful” inside midfielder	To reduce turnovers, raise ball use efficiency from congestion	Clean hands, low clanger rate, decision-making in tight corridors

Given the statistical profile, the “outside mover / link” and “key forward / marking target” probably yield the highest marginal gain, because those are where Brisbane has separation.

No offence intended, but AI based ‘analyses’ are generally unoriginal syntheses that offer limited insight.

3 of your target player profiles sound eerily like players we have just lost to FA or may lose to high profile trade requests.
The other two sound like an amalgam of Walsh/Cerra at their uninjured best and what we hope Smith will become.