Free Agency James Worpel - Joins Geelong as a Restricted Free Agent, Hawthorn receive Band 4 Compensation

[Jack Richards]

End of 2nd round compo pick is going Hawks way

 

[Ka Norkers]

he's an RFA. Will only go to Geelong if Hawthorn want him to go.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He's actually not a bad kick when he's in space. He really worked on it hard with Mitchell learning how to deliver balls better I50. Has a very nice 20-30m kick to a leading target.

The problem with Worpel is he plays himself into trouble. Always takes an extra step or goes for an unnecessary fend off which results in him either getting done for HTB or having to rely on a dump kick.

I think this year at least it has looked like he just dump kicked every time he's had his hands on it. Couldn't get enough space to do anything else

 

[CatToTheFuture]

he's an RFA. Will only go to Geelong if Hawthorn want him to go.

Hawks will drive him to Geelong personally

 

[Xtreme]

Wish him all the best, can never question his desire and effort.. will give great service at Geelong like he has at Hawthorn

He's now the enemy on the footy oval
No REAL ill will... but grrrrr

 

[HairyO]

he's an RFA. Will only go to Geelong if Hawthorn want him to go.

Assuming its around the $700k-$800k x 5 mark and Band 2 we will be happy for him to go. If its going to get us Band 3 we would be crazy to accept that.

Geelong would know this and know how to structure it for Band 2. We wouldnt accept Geelong's 2nd round and there is no way they'd want to use their 1st round.

This isnt a "how will the AFL rig this to be a 1st round pick" thing. I imagine it goes through very quickly and smoothly.

 

[hfc70]

Hawks will drive him to Geelong personally

Only as far as Lara - then he's on his own.

 

[sexyhunk]

Assuming its around the $700k-$800k x 5 mark and Band 2 we will be happy for him to go. If its going to get us Band 3 we would be crazy to accept that.

Geelong would know this and know how to structure it for Band 2. We wouldnt accept Geelong's 2nd round and there is no way they'd want to use their 1st round.

This isnt a "how will the AFL rig this to be a 1st round pick" thing. I imagine it goes through very quickly and smoothly.

theres no way that can be structure that can get a better pick, the AFL already said they only taking into account the first 5 year of a contract, so if is 700 x 5(which i dont think as is a 4 year deal) then is 700 x 5. how else can you restructure that?

aint no one paying him extra 200k just so it get a better pick. dont forget hawthorn can always have the option to match.

 

[Hamingja]

Assuming its around the $700k-$800k x 5 mark and Band 2 we will be happy for him to go. If its going to get us Band 3 we would be crazy to accept that.

Geelong would know this and know how to structure it for Band 2. We wouldnt accept Geelong's 2nd round and there is no way they'd want to use their 1st round.

This isnt a "how will the AFL rig this to be a 1st round pick" thing. I imagine it goes through very quickly and smoothly.

Why do we give a shit about what compensation pick you get? We'd offer him what we think he is worth and if you guys want to match and keep him, go ahead and keep him.

 

[HairyO]

Why do we give a shit about what compensation pick you get? We'd offer him what we think he is worth and if you guys want to match and keep him, go ahead and keep him.

Because that is how it works literally every time a club approaches a player. You think Geelong just walk away after making an offer?

Geelong is well run. Clubs that **** up trades are terribly run.

 

[Hamingja]

Because that is how it works literally every time a club approaches a player. You think Geelong just walk away after making an offer?

Geelong is well run. Clubs that **** up trades are terribly run.

Clubs that overpay are terribly run. Geelong don't overpay. Walking away from Hopper didn't hurt us.

 

[HairyO]

Clubs that overpay are terribly run. Geelong don't overpay. Walking away from Hopper didn't hurt us.

So what do you think he is being offered by Geelong, given Hawthorn have given him 2 separate contract offers this year?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Because that is how it works literally every time a club approaches a player. You think Geelong just walk away after making an offer?

Geelong is well run. Clubs that **** up trades are terribly run.

You know there's a great thread on the Brad crouch FA move that covers this. Rather than rehashing the discussion we could probably just ctrl+F find replace crouch for worpel and call it a day.

Clubs don't do this for role players regardless of what side of the table you're on.

 

[HairyO]

You know there's a great thread on the Brad crouch FA move that covers this. Rather than rehashing the discussion we could probably just ctrl+F find replace crouch for worpel and call it a day.

Clubs don't do this for role players regardless of what side of the table you're on.

You think someone moves on from being a key midfielder to a role player?

Worpel must really hate living in Melbourne.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You think someone moves on from being a key midfielder to a role player?

Worpel must really hate living in Melbourne.

Is he a key midfielder at the Hawks?

 

[Kobe Gryant]

You think someone moves on from being a key midfielder to a role player?

Worpel must really hate living in Melbourne.

Role player, solid contributor, underrated cog in a good team...whatever the label, the point is more that he's not on the class of others.

Think about it, two players have been matched in the history of this format: Jeremy Cameron and Patrick Dangerfield. Generational talents.

Butters for instance will probably get matched next year unless Port finish bottom 4 - regardless of where he goes. He's that good.

It just doesn't happen with Worpel level players.

 

[HairyO]

Is he a key midfielder at the Hawks?

2nd in CBAs behind Newcombe. And he cant really play anywhere else.

Role player, solid contributor, underrated cog in a good team...whatever the label, the point is more that he's not on the class of others.

Think about it, two players have been matched in the history of this format: Jeremy Cameron and Patrick Dangerfield. Generational talents.

Butters for instance will probably get matched next year unless Port finish bottom 4 - regardless of where he goes. He's that good.

It just doesn't happen with Worpel level players.

Because teams that want the free agent will make the offer to get the compo the other team wants.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2nd in CBAs behind Newcombe. And he cant really play anywhere else.

Maybe the fact he can't play anywhere else is the reason for that number.

Also probably means he has a defined role he has to play. Like some sort of role player

 

[Warhorse]

Hopefully we sign him cheap or Hawthorn up there offer and he stays.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hopefully we sign him cheap or Hawthorn up there offer and he stays.

Hawthorn will not be matching.

 

[FootyLad0]

he's an RFA. Will only go to Geelong if Hawthorn want him to go.

We are way past that point lol

 

[Billyc]

Yeah he’s gone to Geelong

 

[HairyO]

Yeah he’s gone to Geelong

May want to stay now.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

May want to stay now.

Been gone for ages.

 

[5minutes_of_Dew]

Rumours have been floating around for years that he'd be likely to head back that way eventually.

He had a big year early on when he won the b&f when we were at the absolute beginning of our rebuild and Tom Mitchell was out injured all year. But since then, he has been a B grade mid who extracts well but uses the ball poorly.

More than happy for us to move him on for an end of first round compo pick, free up 700-800k a year and get more games into Ward and Mackenzie next year + bring in either Merrett or to a lesser extent Petraca if the trade price is right.

 

[longdonkey]

Worpel can only play midfield, he is keeping guys out of that position who are going to be better than him in a season. I've never seen a guy get caught holding the ball as often as him maybe Riley Bonner

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Riley Bonner

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.1

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

279.8

4star

D

12.3

3star

K

10.3

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

279.8

4star

D

21.4

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

comes close.

No way that Hawthorn will match a bid. They will be making out like bandits getting a pick for him.