List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

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  Last 5

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  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Peptide Pig]

You don’t draft for needs with pick 1&2, you take the best available which is Duursma.

Very sound logic until the initials CDT get mentioned and then everyone starts clutching at their pearls. The experts have Duursma and CDT as the best available at picks 1 & 2 then daylight. Twomey does this for a job, is the most accurate each year, has inside knowledge from clubs, player agents, recruiters and the draftees themselves, so posters can disagree with his rankings all you like but he knows better than any BF nuffie.

Not to mention CDT plays one of the biggest positions of need for us, being the RUCK even though some refuse to accept that is his primary position. He ticks both boxes of needs and best available.

So for those pushing Duursma at pick 1 based on being the best available, do you accept CDT at pick 2 on the same basis?

And don’t reply “No he’s not the best available” because you are wrong and your opinion is irrelevant when going off the actual rankings that clubs have, from people who do this professionally.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Just juiced up the Tele and had a look at Dyson Sharp on the big screen.
Slow? Are you people insane.
So many people frothing at the gob ( emphasis on gob ) for not taking Draper last year.
This guy shits on Draper! He’s not speedy; he’s nippy!
From contest to contest he works hard.Plus he’s no shrinking violet .
CDT looked fine but will take some time.Haven’t looked hard at Dursma yet but gee whizz, you want a genuine hard working mid? He’s staring you in the face.
His kicking may need a bit more depth as he does tend to look for the short option. But in the modern game possession is nine tenths of the law.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Hope we can trade up for a 3rd top 10 pick. Duursma, sharp and one of cumming or robey would be a great haul

Robey is the high upside guy we should be targeting. Even more so if we can split and land him plus another decent player.

JTM (Just Take Midfielders)

 

[Dark Sharks]

Nobody:

Random BF Poster: "So anyway, i see Duursma as a kind of hybrid small peened Brendan Goddard type with a Relton Roberts archetype game style resulting in him being your 'quintisential modern day footballer' who just so happens to have Buckley traits and Simon Blacks core strength through the glute area... very important."

 

[WCE777]

Just juiced up the Tele and had a look at Dyson Sharp on the big screen.
Slow? Are you people insane.
So many people frothing at the gob ( emphasis on gob ) for not taking Draper last year.
This guy shits on Draper! He’s not speedy; he’s nippy!
From contest to contest he works hard.Plus he’s no shrinking violet .
CDT looked fine but will take some time.Haven’t looked hard at Dursma yet but gee whizz, you want a genuine hard working mid? He’s staring you in the face.
His kicking may need a bit more depth as he does tend to look for the short option. But in the modern game possession is nine tenths of the law.

this

 

[stinger05]

Can people name all these guys in the picture? I thought Phil said he was one of them

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Why did you have to remind that Nepo Baby Nizzy is still floating around

 

[Peptide Pig]

If our midfield was almost complete I would be all over Duursma, but it isn't and I think we have other priorities in 2025 in the midfield.
Again if the offer for pick 1 isn't big overs then you take him.

Absolutely. He would be great at somewhere like GC where they already have all the other pieces and he could be the cherry on top or potential Mr Fix It with his flexibility and lots of support around him. In our side I could see him getting stranded and struggle to find his best position and form.

Come get him GC. Get ahead of Uwland and Patterson bids… just have to give us Walter and Davies…

 

[Coasters7]

Just juiced up the Tele and had a look at Dyson Sharp on the big screen.
Slow? Are you people insane.
So many people frothing at the gob ( emphasis on gob ) for not taking Draper last year.
This guy shits on Draper! He’s not speedy; he’s nippy!
From contest to contest he works hard.Plus he’s no shrinking violet .
CDT looked fine but will take some time.Haven’t looked hard at Dursma yet but gee whizz, you want a genuine hard working mid? He’s staring you in the face.
His kicking may need a bit more depth as he does tend to look for the short option. But in the modern game possession is nine tenths of the law.

Probably not slow in a straight line but sorta moves like Cripps or Green laterally. Which is probably fine if he ends up like them.

At least from some of the SANFL highlights I watched he doesn’t seem to be super busy once he gets his disposal away. Gets in, maybe gets a handball out, then just meanders around.

We do need someone like him but I worry taking a player like that with a high pick. Should be able to find a similar sort of player with a much lower draft pick.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

So for those pushing Duursma at pick 1 based on being the best available, do you accept CDT at pick 2 on the same basis?

For me, best available come with caveats:

• Only choose a balanced mid, bull, or elite KPF with a top 5 pick.
• Never choose a KPD, outside mid, or SF with a top 5 pick.
• A ruckman has to be ridiculous in order to take top 5. NicNat, Luke Jackson.

There's exceptions - you might be a top 8 club, traded in a top 5 pick. One of these "exotics" might be the missing jigsaw piece. So you might take a Nick Watson or Tauru.

So for me, he's just not at the Nicnat or Luke Jackson level. I've seen CDT's highlights reel, and he's a fair way back. That's not saying he won't be an A-grade player. I would just rather take Sharp, Robey, or Cummings.

Duursma is a bit of a risk. Duursma and CDT is too risky IMO.

 

[Godfather32]

Very sound logic until the initials CDT get mentioned and then everyone starts clutching at their pearls. The experts have Duursma and CDT as the best available at picks 1 & 2 then daylight. Twomey does this for a job, is the most accurate each year, has inside knowledge from clubs, player agents, recruiters and the draftees themselves, so posters can disagree with his rankings all you like but he knows better than any BF nuffie.

Not to mention CDT plays one of the biggest positions of need for us, being the RUCK even though some refuse to accept that is his primary position. He ticks both boxes of needs and best available.

So for those pushing Duursma at pick 1 based on being the best available, do you accept CDT at pick 2 on the same basis?

And don’t reply “No he’s not the best available” because you are wrong and your opinion is irrelevant when going off the actual rankings that clubs have, from people who do this professionally.

Because if you actually watched him ruck in any of his games this season he was not much good at it.
If you're drafting CDT expecting him to solve our ruck problems 2, 5 or even 10 years down the track then you're going to be very disappointed.

 

[Barrybran]

Because if you actually watched him ruck in any of his games this season he was not much good at it.
If you're drafting CDT expecting him to solve our ruck problems 2, 5 or even 10 years down the track then you're going to be very disappointed.

It'll be interesting to see how he is used at AFL level. He gets to the ball quite well and is good below his knees for his height. If he can stick his marks, he'll be quite dangerous.

 

[Popedelio]

Long time lurker, so I come in peace. My old man told me last night that Judd McVee is coming across, and I asked how does he know that, since I haven’t read any rumours on here yet. Reckons he knows somebody in the know (he doesn’t). So take this as a rumour and massive grain of salt. Thought I’d add here as I would lol if it comes true and he did know

My old mans response to the news from today. I shall now return to the shadows and continue liking posts with no further contribution.

 

[Coasters7]

Because if you actually watched him ruck in any of his games this season he was not much good at it.
If you're drafting CDT expecting him to solve our ruck problems 2, 5 or even 10 years down the track then you're going to be very disappointed.

Does depend on what we’re looking for from our ruckman long term.

Do we want a guy that dominates hitouts?

Or do we want to go down the Bulldogs/Geelong route and have a strong midfield that doesn’t rely on a HTA, but the guy playing ruck hurts the opposition everywhere else.

 

[Obeanie1]

Jagga Smith. I would have taken him at #1.

What has Jagga done so far?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Should be able to find a similar sort of player (to Sharp) with a much lower draft pick.

I disagree on that. This type of player - you need him to be elite. It's very hard to pick up elite contested beasts outside the top 5. Most of those guys get delisted. You can grab elite rucks, KPFs, KPDs, etc outside the top 5. But your coalface bull? If they're a little bit off with their decision making, they're almost useless.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

Just juiced up the Tele and had a look at Dyson Sharp on the big screen.
Slow? Are you people insane.
So many people frothing at the gob ( emphasis on gob ) for not taking Draper last year.
This guy shits on Draper! He’s not speedy; he’s nippy!
From contest to contest he works hard.Plus he’s no shrinking violet .
CDT looked fine but will take some time.Haven’t looked hard at Dursma yet but gee whizz, you want a genuine hard working mid? He’s staring you in the face.
His kicking may need a bit more depth as he does tend to look for the short option. But in the modern game possession is nine tenths of the law.

I would take duursma and cumming over sharp

 

[Godfather32]

It'll be interesting to see how he is used at AFL level. He gets to the ball quite well and is good below his knees for his height. If he can stick his marks, he'll be quite dangerous.

Yeah, I could see him turning out as a decent mobile forward or something, presenting up the ground as a marking target. But a ruckman he isn't

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

What has Jagga done so far?

I don't understand the question.

 

[Godfather32]

Does depend on what we’re looking for from our ruckman long term.

Do we want a guy that dominates hitouts?

Or do we want to go down the Bulldogs/Geelong route and have a strong midfield that doesn’t rely on a HTA, but the guy playing ruck hurts the opposition everywhere else.

I want someone who's at least gonna compete in the ruck, not sure that's going to be CDT.

 

[Knifey Spoony]

I heard CDT is the next Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

44

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Can people name all these guys in the picture? I thought Phil said he was one of them

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I could say I was one of those blokes. In fact, I'm the chump standing next to Mini. Why not.

 

[Obeanie1]

Draiper , jagga, Langford, travaglia , Lindsay all look better than allen before the draft .

Sorry that's a load of BS.

Pick 3 traded landed us Baker (best and fairest, next captain), Bo the highest rated WA kid who actually played unlike Jagga. Plus we landed Gross splitting 14.

The others played and showed glimpses of future promise. None of them played better than Ried who won the rising star and who we could have picked.

We wont know really if the split was a net benefit or loss for another 10 years.

 

[Coasters7]

I disagree on that. This type of player - you need him to be elite. It's very hard to pick up elite contested beasts outside the top 5. Most of those guys get delisted. You can grab elite rucks, KPFs, KPDs, etc outside the top 5. But your coalface bull? If they're a little bit off with their decision making, they're almost useless.

The player I’m thinking of is more like an Atkins or Willem Drew. Even Dunkley was a late first, same with Cripps. Legitimately unless he is Tom Green I can’t see it being worth it.

Who are the gun contested players that have gone top 5 who are like him?

Since 2013 these are the players who went top 5 that I’d consider genuine “one dimensional” inside mids.

Rowell
Oliver
Parish
Setterfield
Phillips
Wardlaw
Dow

He’s nothing like Rowell or Oliver and the other 5 (Wardlaw TBA) I don’t want to spend a top 5 pick on.

Everyone else: McCluggage, Taranto, LDU, Brayshaw, Callaghan, Anderson, Rayner. Have much more going for them whilst also being very good around the stoppages.

 

[Coasters7]

I want someone who's at least gonna compete in the ruck, not sure that's going to be CDT.

True. But English regularly gets destroyed in the ruck yet is extremely damaging around the ground. I guess it depends what sort of level our midfield can get to.

 

[ziad]

I heard CDT is the next Dean Cox.

Ran into Cox at the airport this afternoon, well he is a massive unit (ignoring some condition). His size reinforced that we need real sized ruckmen who also have ability. Not much point having one without the other.