Coach Chris Scott and Jeremy Cameron's broken arm incident.

[hawkman]

It's a bit different having all week to decide if you're fit, compared to mid-match with adrenalin pumping.

Rance lol.

Another case of Richmond irrelevance syndrome from a Richmond supporter. It is incredible how they can try and get Richmond into any conversation

 

[Libbaaaa]

David King was an absolute moron this morning, "you put your hand out for $1.2m a year, playing with a broken arm comes with the territory". Rightio champ.

 

[Munich]

Another case of Richmond irrelevance syndrome from a Richmond supporter. It is incredible how they can try and get Richmond into any conversation

They certainly have an obsession with doing so.

 

[RCAB]

Laughably stupid that they pretty much played a man down after that incident.

Cameron was stuffed, in a world of pain, and totally ineffective. Same as GAJ in 2020.

Their big egos hurt the team.

Rance trained hard to make the 2019 GF after his ACL repair, then decided to withdraw his name from consideration for the benefit of the team.

Reckon Cameron would look himself in the mirror this week and realise his big head got in the way of common sense and he owes his teammates.

Complete Strawman.

One has a whole week to think about it, the other is the heat of a grand final with 5 minutes to think about it.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Does the OP know that Brisbane got Dunkley up by using strapping and pain killing injections, because he carried a fresh, usually 1-2 month ankle injury into the game?

 

[Munich]

Does the OP know that Brisbane got Dunkley up by using strapping and pain killing injections, because he carried a fresh, usually 1-2 month ankle injury into the game?

That's irrelevant as Bris won. Don't ya know

 

[Andyy]

Players will want to play. They’re competitive.

What you need is the coaches to be stronger than them and make the right decision.

But who knows. Maybe Cameron wasn’t insisting on playing. We don’t know.

But all in all, they stuffed it up and that’s on the coaches.

Correct. I don't think it would have changed the game but imagine being Stanley and watching Cameron run around with one arm like that?

It's a bit different having all week to decide if you're fit, compared to mid-match with adrenalin pumping.

Rance lol.

Agree that it's different, but I still think it's was a ridiculous decision to stay in the game. People will call it brave but with the game on the line and seeing how ineffective he was I think it was the wrong decision and he should reflect on it. It wasn't a team-first decision.

Comparing Cotchin in his twilight years to Danger.

Oh boy.

You don't think Dangerfield is in his twilight?
Or are you highlighting your own forgetfulness re: Cotchin's peak/brilliance?
Father time comes for them all but even the most experienced statesman can turn back the clock now and then - that's what I think happened with Danger in the PF.
His grand final performance certainly suggests that, unless you believe the dribble that he was 'sick' LOL, in which case he was silly/selfish for playing at all.

I guess based on this bolded part, Danger we'll retire when he feels like it.

And maybe the club will let him. I like that saying; better a year early than a day late. Don't see many go a year early anymore, do we?

Complete Strawman.

One has a whole week to think about it, the other is the heat of a grand final with 5 minutes to think about it.

No, Cameron was injured in the second quarter. He had all of half time and most of the 3rd quarter to consider it.

It's also an insult to modern medicine that they couldn't figure out if his arm was broken etc. It was clearly broken and useless and they kept him on the ground.

Didn't change the result probably, but a poor decision for sure.

 

[Andyy]

That's irrelevant as Bris won. Don't ya know

Does the OP know that Brisbane got Dunkley up by using strapping and pain killing injections, because he carried a fresh, usually 1-2 month ankle injury into the game?

Functionally speaking, Dunkley was able to play. Cameron was not.

 

[Andyy]

Another case of Richmond irrelevance syndrome from a Richmond supporter. It is incredible how they can try and get Richmond into any conversation

Cheap shot from you mate.

Yes I'm a Richmond supporter, so I more likely remember the examples that are relevant to my club.

Whoopdy do.

 

[Seedsfan]

I was appalled that a coach left a player on the field for over 2 quarters with a broken arm.
Dangerfield heard it snap so Scott would have known at half time that it was broken.
There was a fit sub player , a foward like Cameron, Jack Martin, that could have come on.
Cameron spent 17 minutes on the bench with the injury in the 3rd quarter.
Scott subs Stanley instead of Cameron in the 4th quarter.
The issues here are duty of care, what's best for the team and a coach unable to make the correct decision for whatever reason.
The AFL should consider issuing a fine to Geelong because I can guarantee you this won't happen again in the future.

Grow up

 

[Bluelegs]

Not a massive issue from a duty of care pov. Especially if all parties knew what was going on and gave informed consent.

Was pretty clear he was a liability as the game went on though and that was the point where a decision needed to be made.

Scott complaining about the sub-rule in the aftermath was weird though. This scenario is the exact reason it exists.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Does the OP know that Brisbane got Dunkley up by using strapping and pain killing injections, because he carried a fresh, usually 1-2 month ankle injury into the game?

... and he was able to contribute

What did Jezza contribute? One tackle, which nearly killed him

Dumbest decision since 2020 GF leaving Ablett on

Imagine what a decent coach could do at Geelong

 

[Orange Agent]

At the time I thought his sub comments were in relation to the Jezza situation but I'm now wondering if it was about Neale being selected and starting sub. If so, yeah it's absolutely sour grapes.

 

[Bluelegs]

At the time I thought his sub comments were in relation to the Jezza situation but I'm now wondering if it was about Neale being selected and starting sub. If so, yeah it's absolutely sour grapes.

The comment came directly after he was asked about Cameron.

 

[Orange Agent]

The comment came directly after he was asked about Cameron.

So did his comments make any sense?

 

[Bluelegs]

So did his comments make any sense?

I think he was grasping at straws but he was clearly making them in relation to Cameron's injury. His argument was basically that because they didn't know the full extent of the injury it made it hard for them to pull the trigger, which won't be an issue without the sub. The problem with that is they would instead just be a rotation down which they were anyway.

 

[RCAB]

No

Yes..




It was a strawman an hour ago, it's a strawman now and will be in 100 years too.

 

[Fadge]

You don't think Dangerfield is in his twilight?
Or are you highlighting your own forgetfulness re: Cotchin's peak/brilliance?
Father time comes for them all but even the most experienced statesman can turn back the clock now and then - that's what I think happened with Danger in the PF.
His grand final performance certainly suggests that, unless you believe the dribble that he was 'sick' LOL, in which case he was silly/selfish for playing at all.

My comment inferred Dangerfield was also in his twilight.

Here are a few games from Dangerfield's 2025:
Round 4 v. Melbourne - 20 disposals, 9 score involvements, 3 goals, 10 coaches votes.
Round 5 v. Adelaide - 16 disposals, 4 goals, 7 coaches votes.
Round 8 v. Collingwood - 29 disposals, 8 score involvements, 10 coaches votes.

We've already referenced his Preliminary Final.

Give me equivalent games from Cotchin in the last 2 or even 3 years of his career, despite Cotchin retiring as a 33 year old?

I mean, he was in the Coaches Votes once in his final year, against the lowly Saints...

 

[RAPPA]

Jezza could've easily said "Nah, too much for me. Not playing on." Another classic melodramatic take from the OP.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

... and he was able to contribute

What did Jezza contribute? One tackle, which nearly killed him

Dumbest decision since 2020 GF leaving Ablett on

Imagine what a decent coach could do at Geelong

Tactically, yes. But the OP is firmly looking at the moral aspect as they tend to do.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Footy culture lionises players pushing through serious injuries, especially in finals and grand finals.

I can understand why Cameron and Scott wanted him to play on. You're the best forward in your team during a grand final. Of course you'd want to play on - who wouldn't? You can't be expected to act 100% rationally in such circumstances.

Then it's on the doctors to give objective medical advice. If they truly thought he was right to play, there's nothing to see here.

Yer of course i just question Scott decision making he was barely having a impact fully fit how did they reckon he would go with 1 arm in a GF?

 

[Andyy]

Yes..




It was a strawman an hour ago, it's a strawman now and will be in 100 years too.

No, it's definitely not.
Remove a sentence about Alex Rance if you wish.

Otherwise, please explain your position, otherwise you are in fact the one attacking the proverbial

My comment inferred Dangerfield was also in his twilight.

Here are a few games from Dangerfield's 2025:
Round 4 v. Melbourne - 20 disposals, 9 score involvements, 3 goals, 10 coaches votes.
Round 5 v. Adelaide - 16 disposals, 4 goals, 7 coaches votes.
Round 8 v. Collingwood - 29 disposals, 8 score involvements, 10 coaches votes.

We've already referenced his Preliminary Final.

Give me equivalent games from Cotchin in the last 2 or even 3 years of his career, despite Cotchin retiring as a 33 year old?

I mean, he was in the Coaches Votes once in his final year, against the lowly Saints...

Saints were finalists in 2023, not exactly lowly when they're ahead of more than half the league.

I suppose the two that really stand out in 2023 are:
R9 vs Geelong - playing forward, 9 touches and 3 goals
R14 vs Saints - 29 touches, 2 goals, 2 Brownlow votes

There are a good handful of games in 2021-2 also where he was impactful but I doubt there's any value in me just copying more stats.

Obviously the club didn't make finals in 2023 and was on the sharp decline, and I'm not referencing their respective ages as I think it goes without saying that Dangerfield has had better longevity, which isn't the point here.

I just think Danger is finito. End of a glittering career. And as I said earlier - better a year early than a day late. Who the heck wants to see Danger running around getting 10 touches and struggling for form? Think of Fyfe this year.

 

[Fadge]

I just think Danger is finito. End of a glittering career. And as I said earlier - better a year early than a day late. Who the heck wants to see Danger running around getting 10 touches and struggling for form? Think of Fyfe this year.

See, this is loser talk.

If you had your way, Danger would have retired at the end of last year, Cats don't get into a Grand Final (starting $1.50 faves) courtesy of Danger's matchwinning Preliminary Final performance.

You compile your best list every year, and put your best team on the park every week.

 

[Andyy]

See, this is loser talk.

If you had your way, Danger would have retired at the end of last year, Cats don't get into a Grand Final (starting $1.50 faves) courtesy of Danger's matchwinning Preliminary Final performance.

You compile your best list every year, and put your best team on the park every week.

No.

Sometimes the moment is right to move on and refresh the list.

Personally I would prefer we didn't extend Prestia, for example.

 

[Munich]

No.

Sometimes the moment is right to move on and refresh the list.

Personally I would prefer we didn't extend Prestia, for example.

Yes Prestia the generational player compares to Dangerfield.

Good one.